Huge summer ahead!

[foxfanazer]

49 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

Why would Albrighton leave? Chilwell might wanna play more, but wouldn't get in a top 7 club, so may as well stay.

I'm not suggesting they would

[Beachyboy]

Just now, foxfanazer said:

I'm not suggesting they would

Ok fair enough feels like about 90% of the squad either wouldn't want to leave/ couldn't go to a better team/ the club would consider selling if a good offer came in.

 

The only player that would be hard to replace for me is Vardy, an of the current first 11, I'd say 100% Simpson, Fuchs, Albrighton (Vardy if at club think he will be) start the 1st game next season.

[UPinCarolina]

I would add Ndidi to that list ^

 

[LCCFox96]

35 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

Ok fair enough feels like about 90% of the squad either wouldn't want to leave/ couldn't go to a better team/ the club would consider selling if a good offer came in.

 

The only player that would be hard to replace for me is Vardy, an of the current first 11, I'd say 100% Simpson, Fuchs, Albrighton (Vardy if at club think he will be) start the 1st game next season.

 

13 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

I would add Ndidi to that list ^

 

and Kasper if he stays with us. 

[Beachyboy]

2 hours ago, LCCFox96 said:

 

 

and Kasper if he stays with us. 

I haven't included them as I'm not 100% that they will be at the club, some of the 11- Morgan/ Huth Okazaki upgrade if possible 

 

Simpson, Fuchs, Albrighton, Vardy- keep in team

 

Kasper/ mahrez- think may go

 

Ndidi/ Drinkwater ( depends on form/fitness/ transfers in/out.

[AmarteyAndChill]

3 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

I haven't included them as I'm not 100% that they will be at the club, some of the 11- Morgan/ Huth Okazaki upgrade if possible 

 

Simpson, Fuchs, Albrighton, Vardy- keep in team

 

Kasper/ mahrez- think may go

 

Ndidi/ Drinkwater ( depends on form/fitness/ transfers in/out.

If we sell Ndidi, Drinky, Kasper & Riyad we will get relegated 

[volpeazzurro]

4 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

What if Mahrez had it written into his contract he gets to start every game and it was the only way we would have kept him.

Do you really think such things exist that stupid? If so and I was his manager I would have threatened to tell the public that if 

he didn't pull his finger out. Very hypothetical really though. Don't think our successful businessmen owners would be that dumb or desperate,  they'd have cashed in big time.  Player of the season yes, Ronaldo or Messi....not in his lifetime! 

[yorkie1999]

50 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Do you really think such things exist that stupid? If so and I was his manager I would have threatened to tell the public that if 

he didn't pull his finger out. Very hypothetical really though. Don't think our successful businessmen owners would be that dumb or desperate,  they'd have cashed in big time.  Player of the season yes, Ronaldo or Messi....not in his lifetime! 

You'd have told mahrez to pull his finger out?? He'd just won player of the season and won the prem. no one would have guessed he'd have a poor season, cash in our best player going into a new season with champions league beckoning?? I think you are very angry man.

[Beachyboy]

2 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

If we sell Ndidi, Drinky, Kasper & Riyad we will get relegated 

I know we have spent like a drunken sailor last 2 years, but £100 million for them 4, I'm not saying I'd wanna, but we'd find replacements from somewhere. None of the 4 of them had much of a reputation when they arrived. There is a world full of good players waiting to be discovered who the **** knew who Kante was 3 years ago?

[WigstonWanderer]

1 hour ago, Beachyboy said:

I know we have spent like a drunken sailor last 2 years, but £100 million for them 4, I'm not saying I'd wanna, but we'd find replacements from somewhere. None of the 4 of them had much of a reputation when they arrived. There is a world full of good players waiting to be discovered who the **** knew who Kante was 3 years ago?

I think you underestimate the difficulty and sheer luck involved in not only finding good players, but ones that gel with the rest of the team, the manager, his plans and the new environment. 

[weller54]

7 hours ago, Beachyboy said:

I know we have spent like a drunken sailor last 2 years, but £100 million for them 4, I'm not saying I'd wanna, but we'd find replacements from somewhere. None of the 4 of them had much of a reputation when they arrived. There is a world full of good players waiting to be discovered who the **** knew who Kante was 3 years ago?

The real question is... What do we do with the Drunken Sailor? 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

On 23/05/2017 at 09:07, Max Wall said:

I honestly think we're beyond that. Regardless of how difficult/costly the process will be we really require at least 3 players to be match day 11 regulars rather than challengers for a position.

It's clear that any disruption to the first 11 results in a massive drop in the liklihood of a positive result or even a positive performance.

 

The good performances this season have been the anomaly. With the exception of the first 5 games under CS, we haven't strung anything together at all and whilst our defeats under CS haven't had the same feeling of utter despair in comparison with the latter defeats under Ranieri, they have had the same worrying traits. The slow starts, the habit of conceding early, the inability to string passes together or retain possession, the rather one dimensional hoofball that can be all too present, the proclivity to concede goals in clusters.

 

An example of the dirth of options currently available is the situation with Mahrez. I'm not here to bash Riyad, there's enough people seemingly happy to do that, but his form, like the team, has slumped this year yet there's no one good enough/trusted enough to oust him from the matchday 11. That is an appalling situation for the premier league champions to be in. The same can be said for almost all of them. Where are the positions where it's a 50/50 call as to who plays when everyone's fit? Unfortunately, the first 11 still picks itself even after such a hugely disappointing league campaign. Given that we 've struggled this season, it's a huge task to overhaul the squad when each of the players is another season older, especially the defence.

 

Whether CS gets the nod or whether it's a new name to lead us forward, I think they have a big job on their hands and they will need to hit the ground running.

 

Agreed.

 

We need new starters in many positions not back ups who challenge players who have proven themselves either past it eg maybe Wes,'gone' eg  Mahrez, or simply not good enough like King and Amartey who have started a good number of games between them. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

16 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

What if Mahrez had it written into his contract he gets to start every game and it was the only way we would have kept him.

If that was the case then whoever sanctioned it would be have been neglegent to do so.

 

Ranners dropped him from the starting 11 once didn't he (?)which would quash that theory anyway.

 

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

10 hours ago, Beachyboy said:

I know we have spent like a drunken sailor last 2 years, but £100 million for them 4, I'm not saying I'd wanna, but we'd find replacements from somewhere. None of the 4 of them had much of a reputation when they arrived. There is a world full of good players waiting to be discovered who the **** knew who Kante was 3 years ago?

We have not spent that much I don't think given the times we live and the position of the club now; I am referring to a net figure when you take off the income for the sales of Kramaric and Kante - which was over £40m.

 

It is true that the fruits of what we have spent on have turned out rotten, bar Ndidi. 

 

Mendy remains an unknown quantity but to me his build did not look suited  to the pace and rigours of the PL. - too short and stocky to have the requisite speed and endurance me thinks.

 

I remain puzzled as to why the talented youngsters - Gray and Kaputska - failed to get any meaningful game time with an eye to the future, once we were safe from the drop. Shakes had his own ideas but I don't agree with that. 

[Beachyboy]

9 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

I think you underestimate the difficulty and sheer luck involved in not only finding good players, but ones that gel with the rest of the team, the manager, his plans and the new environment. 

i'm aware of how difficult it can be to find players that gel into a system straight away, I wouldn't want any of the top players to go, but if they want to go an have their heads turned, I don't subscribe to the idea that it means automatic relegation. The key is getting the business done early both incoming and outgoings, not leaving it till the last day like we usually do.

[OllieLodge96]

Get the businesses done as soon as possible. That starts with appointing a manager

[Beachyboy]

14 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

We have not spent that much I don't think given the times we live and the position of the club now; I am referring to a net figure when you take off the income for the sales of Kramaric and Kante - which was over £40m.

 

It is true that the fruits of what we have spent on have turned out rotten, bar Ndidi. 

 

Mendy remains an unknown quantity but to me his build did not look suited  to the pace and rigours of the PL. - too short and stocky to have the requisite speed and endurance me thinks.

 

I remain puzzled as to why the talented youngsters - Gray and Kaputska - failed to get any meaningful game time with an eye to the future, once we were safe from the drop. Shakes had his own ideas but I don't agree with that. 

it's not always about the amount spent but the methods behind such spending, an whether it seems a balanced improvement of the squad, if we only sign 3 players in the summer, 2x CB an a CM, ideally want to have 22 players that you trust to play at any given time, we may have 15-16 at the moment.

[Beachyboy]

3 hours ago, weller54 said:

The real question is... What do we do with the Drunken Sailor? 

The drunken sailor isn't going to be making decisions in Leicestershire this summer, an hopefully it's not just one sailor anyway, a long boat full of sailors with a common goal of reaching the coast rather than being left stranded at sea.

[weller54]

2 hours ago, Beachyboy said:

The drunken sailor isn't going to be making decisions in Leicestershire this summer, an hopefully it's not just one sailor anyway, a long boat full of sailors with a common goal of reaching the coast rather than being left stranded at sea.

Erli in the morning? 

[UPinCarolina]

3 hours ago, weller54 said:

Erli in the morning? 

We assume, of course, that we put said sailor in the brig until he is sober.

[Beachyboy]

4 hours ago, weller54 said:

Erli in the morning? 

Way hay up she rises

Way hay up she rises

Way hay up she Rises

 

Early in the morning

[Buzzell]

On 2017-5-21 at 17:05, jayfox26 said:

This summer is massive for us as we all know.

 

It will define if we push on towards European  places next season or if we slip back down into a relegation battle.

 

Other teams will also be looking for managers, Watford and possibly southampton, so the owners need to ensure we get the right person.

 

I like shakespeare alot and hes done a great job keeping us up when we looked down and also the champs league.

 

However, we cannot underestimate how big a job this will be. We need a total overhaul of players and tactics. We know we cant keep playing like we have for the past 2 years as teams are aware of our threats. 

 

Our best players may get poached and our lesser players need to be moved on.

 

So the new manager (be it shakey  or someone else) needs to

 

1. Persuade our stars to stay.

2. Clear out the deadwood.

3. Sign at least 5-6 new top players.

4. Think up a new way of us playing so we dont just rely on long balls to vardy.

5. Build a squad capable of challenging in the top 7. [B/] 

 

Not an easy task! 

Normal summer then.... 

[jayfox26]

12 hours ago, buzzer_b said:

Normal summer then.... 

Not really. We didn't do any of these things last season other than persuading Vardy and Mahrez to stay

[Kitchandro]

On 21/05/2017 at 17:05, jayfox26 said:

 

4. Think up a new way of us playing so we dont just rely on long balls to vardy.

 

 

We already know how to do this, it's called the 2015/16 way.

 

It's not rocket science.