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Posted
8 minutes ago, toddybad said:

Don't believe I ever did say that strokes, old bean. In fact I'm sure I've said the opposite.

What I've said it's irrelevant though, it's one of the cornerstones of Brexit theory demolished.

 

It’s not demolished at all old bean, it proves it is a problem and it has suppressed wages to basement levels. The law won’t be very effective now because it has come too late, the wages are already at basement levels because of inaction and the companies won’t have to change nothing. 

All this does is prove that leave were right.

Posted
27 minutes ago, Strokes said:

It’s not demolished at all old bean, it proves it is a problem and it has suppressed wages to basement levels. The law won’t be very effective now because it has come too late, the wages are already at basement levels because of inaction and the companies won’t have to change nothing. 

All this does is prove that leave were right.

Wait until you see what the South Americans will work for.

Posted
2 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

Being a “Liberal” in the 21st century means caring more about smoking joints and wearing assless chaps than rights in the workplace and social justice.

Tbf "liberal" these days means anything from right wingers who want to see private companies monopolise ressources to centrists who like to talk about the evolutionary differences between the whites and the blacks to leftists who want to hang anybody who's straight and white or who believes that having a cock makes you a boy and having a fanny makes you a girl.  It's become one of those nonsense terms that people of vastly different beliefs like to champion as though they're the one true coming much like "feminist".

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A delegation of executives from companies including BP, Vodafone, Nestlé, BMW, and E.ON met with the UK prime minister and David Davis, Brexit secretary, on Wednesday to voice their concerns about what Brexit will mean for their UK operations.
“We gave very concrete examples of what is happening,” said one business leader who attended the meeting. “We are not going to invest in the UK until we see what the outcome is. “The attractiveness of the UK for investments is very, very low,” they added.
After the meeting, Downing Street said that Mrs May had explained to those attending that work was under way on two customs models.

https://www.ft.com/content/f12785b0-642b-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56

Posted

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/us-cloud-act-ends-microsoft-dublin-email-case-with-a-whimper-1.3450643

 

Could end up being something of a collision course between the US and EU on this. Do the US really have the right to access emails held on a server in a country anywhere in the world at any time that they like?

 

I'm sure there will be the usual bluster about "only to be used with good cause" but there's not really a good track record of that in the past.

Posted
16 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

Being a “Liberal” in the 21st century means caring more about smoking joints and wearing assless chaps than rights in the workplace and social justice.

 

I think you'll find this problem originated with the Northern working class in Manchester:

 

 

 

Posted
11 hours ago, Strokes said:

 

22 hours ago, toddybad said:

A delegation of executives from companies including BP, Vodafone, Nestlé, BMW, and E.ON met with the UK prime minister and David Davis, Brexit secretary, on Wednesday to voice their concerns about what Brexit will mean for their UK operations.
“We gave very concrete examples of what is happening,” said one business leader who attended the meeting. “We are not going to invest in the UK until we see what the outcome is. “The attractiveness of the UK for investments is very, very low,” they added.
After the meeting, Downing Street said that Mrs May had explained to those attending that work was under way on two customs models.

https://www.ft.com/content/f12785b0-642b-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56

Is this, coupled with the already substantial drop in business investment to the UK, project fear?

There's always a unicorn over the rainbow, no matter the problem, for your leavers, isn't there?

Posted
9 minutes ago, toddybad said:

 

Is this, coupled with the already substantial drop in business investment to the UK, project fear?

Yes.

 

I would expect nothing less from a "delegate of executives". They are looking after their profit margin, as they should. That does not, however, mean they give a crap about anything else. 

 

If they want us to stay in a customs union, or the single market, then they'll need to offer something in return beyond "our shareholders will make more money". Personally, I don't care about their profit margins. And honestly, I'm surprised you do. 

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Yes.

 

I would expect nothing less from a "delegate of executives". They are looking after their profit margin, as they should. That does not, however, mean they give a crap about anything else. 

 

If they want us to stay in a customs union, or the single market, then they'll need to offer something in return beyond "our shareholders will make more money". Personally, I don't care about their profit margins. And honestly, I'm surprised you do. 

 

I care about people having jobs.

Posted
On 30/05/2018 at 20:16, Strokes said:

It’s not demolished at all old bean, it proves it is a problem and it has suppressed wages to basement levels. The law won’t be very effective now because it has come too late, the wages are already at basement levels because of inaction and the companies won’t have to change nothing. 

All this does is prove that leave were right.

It wasn't about immigration though?

Posted
26 minutes ago, toddybad said:

I care about people having jobs.

Funny, I thought you cared about people having good jobs and wanted to take on these big businesses. 

 

We have something they want. They don't want to leave, it costs an arm and a leg to relocate, it will be a ballache for them. If they want to stay in a customs union, they'll need to offer more than threats. 

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There is no project fear FFS.

 

That's just been made up by the media who want to leave the EU, if anything the impact is underplayed and not fully reported in most of the press.

 

Just remember we haven't left yet and just look at the impact on the NHS and businesses already if you care to do some research and take notice.

 

 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Funny, I thought you cared about people having good jobs and wanted to take on these big businesses. 

 

We have something they want. They don't want to leave, it costs an arm and a leg to relocate, it will be a ballache for them. If they want to stay in a customs union, they'll need to offer more than threats. 

Not Brexit related. Just an outlook thing. What I don't understand:

 

Currently, uk politics is dominated by austerity affecting the poorest, with cuts to benefits and public services. At the same time, we continue with QE which is doing nothing to increase demand or productivity, simply making the rich ever richer as evidenced by the stock markets, which continue to surge ahead despite seriously weak underlying economic data (as QE is simply being invested in the markets). So, whilst cutting services to normal people in the name of debt reduction, debt is being taken on to fund QE. It is a direct removal of resources from poor to rich.

 

Why are you happy with the status quo?

 

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, toddybad said:

Not Brexit related. Just an outlook thing. What I don't understand:

 

Currently, uk politics is dominated by austerity affecting the poorest, with cuts to benefits and public services. At the same time, we continue with QE which is doing nothing to increase demand or productivity, simply making the rich ever richer as evidenced by the stock markets, which continue to surge ahead despite seriously weak underlying economic data (as QE is simply being invested in the markets). So, whilst cutting services to normal people in the name of debt reduction, debt is being taken on to fund QE. It is a direct removal of resources from poor to rich.

 

Why are you happy with the status quo?

 

 

What has any of this got to do with anything I said? :huh:

 

If I was happy with the status quo, I'd have voted remain, surely. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

What has any of this got to do with anything I said? :huh:

 

If I was happy with the status quo, I'd have voted remain, surely. 

Read the first three words again.

 

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