Guest MattP Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 4 minutes ago, lifted*fox said: you sound like you're still brainwashed by 70's anti-marijuana propaganda and have point-blank chosen to ignore all of the statistics that show weed to be a safer recreational drug compared to alcohol, which I'm sure you enjoy plenty of. as for the info it's out there - google it, I've already posted links to it in the 'legalise cannabis' thread. Just say the name, it's not hard. Also, the argument for legalisation has to be a bit better than "something else is worse" - we all know if we had never seen alcohol and it was introduced into society it would be banned within weeks given what it does to people.
Guest MattP Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 4 minutes ago, Buce said: His use of the word ‘scumbags’ tells you all you need to know about Tory attitudes to cannabis. Ironically, he’s probably pissed. I'm still undecided, medicinal use completely should be legalised, recreational use I'm torn between it, given my desire as a libertarian to allow people to do what they want with their own bodies but also seeing what it has done to a close friend. I'm probably siding towards legalisation but that doesn't mean I'd tolerate people using sick children to further an agenda, that does make them scumbags. Ironically, your now consistent paranoia and conspiracy theory about anything Conservative is becoming a pretty good argument against it. You need to stop it as it's completely ridiculous at times.
lifted*fox Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 10 minutes ago, MattP said: Just say the name, it's not hard. Also, the argument for legalisation has to be a bit better than "something else is worse" - we all know if we had never seen alcohol and it was introduced into society it would be banned within weeks given what it does to people. Mate, I'd love to spend my Sunday trying to convince you on something you've clearly made your mind up about, despite the facts; but I've got much better stuff to be doing - like getting high and having a wank. I'll leave you guys to it. 1
Guest MattP Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 1 minute ago, lifted*fox said: Mate, I'd love to spend my Sunday trying to convince you on something you've clearly made your mind up about, despite the facts; but I've got much better stuff to be doing - like getting high and having a wank. I'll leave you guys to it. Fair enough, just wanted the name as i enjoy reading about hypocrisy. Have a nice day.
lifted*fox Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 Just now, MattP said: Fair enough, just wanted the name as i enjoy reading about hypocrisy. Have a nice day. Matt, for once, stop being a stubborn, argumentative man-child about something, open up the 'legalise cannabis' thread, find the link and knock yourself out. Enjoy your Sunday too fella.
Buce Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 14 minutes ago, MattP said: I'm still undecided, medicinal use completely should be legalised, recreational use I'm torn between it, given my desire as a libertarian to allow people to do what they want with their own bodies but also seeing what it has done to a close friend. I'm probably siding towards legalisation but that doesn't mean I'd tolerate people using sick children to further an agenda, that does make them scumbags. Ironically, your now consistent paranoia and conspiracy theory about anything Conservative is becoming a pretty good argument against it. You need to stop it as it's completely ridiculous at times. Actually, I gave it up about six months ago. But don’t let facts get in the way of your drunken ramblings.
Guest MattP Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 1 minute ago, Buce said: Actually, I gave it up about six months ago. But don’t let facts get in the way of your drunken ramblings. It's 12.19 Buce. Even Gazza is sober at this time of the day. Why did you give it up?
thebartonfox Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 58 minutes ago, Buce said: Actually, I gave it up about six months ago. But don’t let facts get in the way of your drunken ramblings. As I always seem to hear different arguments from both sides about how addictive it is or isn't, how did you find giving it up?
Buce Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MattP said: It's 12.19 Buce. Even Gazza is sober at this time of the day. Why did you give it up? I've got a couple of things planned in the next few years that requires me stepping up my training routine, and the weed makes me a bit lazy. 12 minutes ago, thebartonfox said: As I always seem to hear different arguments from both sides about how addictive it is or isn't, how did you find giving it up? I had no problems whatsoever, and I've been a user for 35 years or so. That said, I always smoked it neat and I've seen evidence to suggest that it can become addictive when mixed with tobacco. I'll add that I wasn't a particularly heavy user, a couple of spliffs in the evening was usual. Edited 17 June 2018 by Buce
Guest MattP Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 5 minutes ago, Buce said: I've got a couple of things planned in the next few years that requires me stepping up my training routine, and the weed makes me a bit lazy. Fair play, all the best with it, hope it goes well. I'm actually intending to give up the booze at 40 - will be hard though and after recent events I do want to be a proper gammon at 50 and I need to sink a few to get to that stage.
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 17 June 2018 Posted 17 June 2018 22 minutes ago, Buce said: I've got a couple of things planned in the next few years that requires me stepping up my training routine, and the weed makes me a bit lazy. I had no problems whatsoever, and I've been a user for 35 years or so. That said, I always smoked it neat and I've seen evidence to suggest that it can become addictive when mixed with tobacco. I'll add that I wasn't a particularly heavy user, a couple of spliffs in the evening was usual. This is true imo Its the tobacco that is addictive. No withdrawal symptons from weed on its own
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 17 June 2018 Author Posted 17 June 2018 19 hours ago, Webbo said: I wonder how many of them paid for their tickets? No-one Webbo, it was all funded by the magic money tree - although t-shirts and other paraphernalia were extra.
Buce Posted 18 June 2018 Posted 18 June 2018 (edited) Tax rises to pay for NHS funding increase: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44516123 Edited 18 June 2018 by Buce
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 18 June 2018 Posted 18 June 2018 On 17/06/2018 at 12:01, MattP said: I'm still undecided, medicinal use completely should be legalised, recreational use I'm torn between it, given my desire as a libertarian to allow people to do what they want with their own bodies but also seeing what it has done to a close friend. I'm probably siding towards legalisation but that doesn't mean I'd tolerate people using sick children to further an agenda, that does make them scumbags. Marijuana in its purest form isn’t at all dangerous. The problems are with stuff like skunk which are designed to fvck you up. A little bit like what Super Diamond White Cider is to say K-Ultra violet. Marijuana in its pure form (not mixed with tobacco or anything else) is actually very good for you in a number of ways. Far better for stress and anxiety than something like citalopram.
Guest Posted 18 June 2018 Posted 18 June 2018 3 hours ago, Buce said: Tax rises to pay for NHS funding increase: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44516123 Not enough though. And it seems likely that Fox will be unhappy because corporation taxes won't go even lower that they already are. Business will be streaming out of the country because of the despicable socialist TM. Never has such a dangerous precedent been set as making business pay for the services it uses. On the upside (for the right) it seems like the tax threshold won't increase at the bottom and. Better the poor pay than give the ultra rich have a new tax band, after all.
Carl the Llama Posted 18 June 2018 Posted 18 June 2018 Ah yes I forgot about that sweet Brexit bonus of higher taxes to pay for the shit that we were supposed to pay for with the money saved by Brexit. 2
Strokes Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 Doesn’t give the NHS enough money (apparently) - evil Tory scum. Gives NHS more money - evil Tory scum. Hilarious 2
Buce Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 3 minutes ago, Strokes said: Doesn’t give the NHS enough money (apparently) - evil Tory scum. Gives NHS more money - evil Tory scum. Hilarious Who is saying that?
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 11 hours ago, toddybad said: Not enough though. And it seems likely that Fox will be unhappy because corporation taxes won't go even lower that they already are. Business will be streaming out of the country because of the despicable socialist TM. Never has such a dangerous precedent been set as making business pay for the services it uses. On the upside (for the right) it seems like the tax threshold won't increase at the bottom and. Better the poor pay than give the ultra rich have a new tax band, after all. Goodness me! I don't think that I have ever said corporation taxes should go even lower, although a lower rate is likely to increase tax take. What I am saying is the band should be as high as Labour are proposing as that will reduce jobs and investment. If you don't think businesses will 'stream out of the country' because of higher taxes and a Corbyn led government, then you need to stop worrying about Brexit as its effects will be insignificant in comparison. I still think the NHS has bigger issues than funding, and this will be a very expensive project to keep funding. Its inefficient and largely run by bad managers . Go to Love the left though! Shouting 'Need more Money for Our NHS, SAVE OUR NHS, TORY SCUM SHITS' May gives money, 'not that money its the wrong kind of money, that's tory scum shit money' 'taking off the poor blah blah' Nothing has been taken off the poor, the personal allowance has risen more in 5 years of Tory rule than it did in 17 years of Labour, of course they just brought in a load of in work benefits, instead of letting people keep what they earn bribes for votes eh?. At the end of the day if you want better services YOU have to pay, every ****er has to pay, May is absolutely correct on this one. We can not live in this ****ing stupid world where we are constantly bashing the rich, who already pay the majority of tax in this country anyway. Corbyn is an absolute belled for this class war shit he has stoked, that actually makes people believe dangerous shit like this, the young have been brainwashed, the sooner the crinkly old twat ****s off the better. This politics of envy is a disgrace.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 5 minutes ago, Strokes said: Doesn’t give the NHS enough money (apparently) - evil Tory scum. Gives NHS more money - evil Tory scum. Hilarious Its the wrong kind of tax. We need borrowing not Tory Scum borrowing we need Red flag Labour borrowing! Make the rich men pay...….bastards Requisitions the businesses......****ers We need a better a Britain, a redder Britain, as Britain that is equally shit for everyone Keep the Red Flag Flying
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 3 minutes ago, Buce said: Who is saying that? 11 hours ago, toddybad said: Not enough though. And it seems likely that Fox will be unhappy because corporation taxes won't go even lower that they already are. Business will be streaming out of the country because of the despicable socialist TM. Never has such a dangerous precedent been set as making business pay for the services it uses. On the upside (for the right) it seems like the tax threshold won't increase at the bottom and. Better the poor pay than give the ultra rich have a new tax band, after all.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 In other news: It would be hilarious if the Tories legalised Cannabis also, I almost hope they do just to see some people squirm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44526156 Good potential for tax revenue too. Whack a fag tax on that could fund the NHS.
Buce Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 6 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: In other news: It would be hilarious if the Tories legalised Cannabis also, I almost hope they do just to see some people squirm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44526156 Good potential for tax revenue too. Whack a fag tax on that could fund the NHS. Don't hold your breath.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 3 minutes ago, Buce said: Don't hold your breath. Probably more chance of the Tories doing it that Labour to be fair. Like say having a woman leader or something. Its funny that Labour and voters claim to be 'progressive', yet they are still pedalling failed policies from the 1970s with a dour old man who has no o-levels, no experience of leadership and who looks like a crap 1970s geography teacher. The hard left unions are run by the same kind of hideous dinosaurs like Len McCluskey.
Buce Posted 19 June 2018 Posted 19 June 2018 2 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Probably more chance of the Tories doing it that Labour to be fair. Like say having a woman leader or something. Its funny that Labour and voters claim to be 'progressive', yet they are still pedalling failed policies from the 1970s with a dour old man who has no o-levels, no experience of leadership and who looks like a crap 1970s geography teacher. The hard left unions are run by the same kind of hideous dinosaurs like Len McCluskey. 3 I disagree. It would be political suicide for either party, I suspect, because as a nation we are quite conservative (lower-case 'c'), but more so for the Tories because of who their voter base is. 1
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