Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Max Wall]

1 hour ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think it needed to be mentioned really, perhaps @Unabomber can correct me?

 

I want the chef to cook me the meat the way he see’s as best. That’s why I pay more at his restaurant than I do down the pub.  If a paying customer was asking me to install something to a standard I wasn’t happy with, I wouldn’t do it. 

There is no set price for having standards max, I’ve just explained that. Do you tell chefs how you want anything else cooked?

Not many things I can think of except a fried egg. Or if a separate sauce comes with a dish, if I don't want it, I'll tell them not to bring it. Should they insist I take the sauce as it goes with the dish? If I want my egg yolk hard, should they tell me they know best and I have to have in runny?

Most people are happy to trust the chef, me included most of the time, but we all have certain tastes and I don't think anyone you're paying has the right to tell you your taste is wrong.

 

[Max Wall]

7 minutes ago, Kopic said:

I used to get steaks well done when I was younger because the blood put me off. Now i always get it rare. But i agree restaurant that won't cook to your preference is silly, just sounds a bit hipster to me. If you're paying, you should be allowed to ruin a steak.

 

One of the best steaks I've ever had in Leicester is at Grosvenor casino. Had a heavy night, ordered a surf and turf at about 2am and it was absolutely fantastic. Had it again sober just to check and again it was great. And I'm comparing that to both pubs and high end steak restaurants. 

Yep.

As is saying you can't understand/trust anyone who would have a steak cooked medium or over.

[Strokes]

29 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Yeah and most people do let the chef cook it the way the chef sees fit. But if you want to, you always have the option to ask it the way you would like it, be it steak or anything else, and the restaurant is obliged to cater to your wishes. You do what the customer wants, that's one of the basic principles of the hospitality industry.

 

If someone wants their steak well done you can roll your eyes all you want, but you should still do it and it's bad service to refuse to.

 

You can also reserve the right to go mental at them if they then complain about it afterwards.

 

 

 

Nonsense, if I asked for an uncooked piece of chicken it would get refused anywhere. It’s only steak that I can think of where the customer sees it fit to tell the chef how to do his job. I just agree with restaurants that refuse to go to the point of ruining a fine bit of meat, for someone that has no tastebuds.

[Strokes]

7 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

Yep.

As is saying you can't understand/trust anyone who would have a steak cooked medium or over.

You take comments on here, way too serious

 

[Max Wall]

1 minute ago, Strokes said:

Nonsense, if I asked for an uncooked piece of chicken it would get refused anywhere. It’s only steak that I can think of where the customer sees it fit to tell the chef how to do his job. I just agree with restaurants that refuse to go to the point of ruining a fine bit of meat, for someone that has no tastebuds.

Raw chicken? That's a health issue, similar to my point about the boiler analogy. 

Anyway, if steak is cooked to the paying customers taste, how is that ruining it?

[Max Wall]

2 minutes ago, Strokes said:

You take comments on here, way too serious

 

Nope. Just giving my opinion. 

[Strokes]

5 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

Raw chicken? That's a health issue, similar to my point about the boiler analogy. 

Anyway, if steak is cooked to the paying customers taste, how is that ruining it?

So is eating over cooked steak, broken teeth and jaws.

 

[ealingfox]

13 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Nonsense, if I asked for an uncooked piece of chicken it would get refused anywhere. It’s only steak that I can think of where the customer sees it fit to tell the chef how to do his job. I just agree with restaurants that refuse to go to the point of ruining a fine bit of meat, for someone that has no tastebuds.

 

Ffs don't be childish. Obviously it's within reason and the place is going to cover their backs health-wise.

 

You can ask for all kinds of amendments to dishes in restaurants. You can advise on spice levels, seasoning levels, with or without an ingredient, side dishes swapped in or out. I honestly don't know what you're on about.

 

Isn't the fact that they ask you how you want your steak in the first place telling enough? They're there to cater to what you want. If they think you're wrong then fine, but as Ramsay says in the video above that's the customers prerogative.

Edited 16 August 2018 by ealingfox

[Max Wall]

1 minute ago, Strokes said:

So is eating over cooked steak, broken teeth and jaws.

 

Ah, deflection 

[Innovindil]

7 hours ago, ozleicester said:

People who are obsessed by food are missing something in their lives

Ironically, usually a well cooked steak. 

[Strokes]

3 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Ffs don't be childish. Obviously it's within reason and the place is going to cover their backs health-wise.

 

You can ask for all kinds of amendments to dishes in restaurants. You can advise on spice levels, seasoning levels, with or without an ingredient, side dishes swapped in or out. I honestly don't know what you're on about.

 

Isn't the fact that they ask you how you want your steak in the first place telling enough? They're there to cater to what you want. If they think you're wrong then fine, but as Ramsay says in the video above that's their prerogative.

Isn’t the fact certain restaurants are refusing to obliterate a steak telling you something?

[ealingfox]

1 minute ago, Strokes said:

Isn’t the fact certain restaurants are refusing to obliterate a steak telling you something?

 

Which restaurants are those?

[Strokes]

Just now, ealingfox said:

 

Which restaurants are those?

Ask unabomber he bought it up, I’m just agreeing it’s a good decision by those restaurants.

[Buce]

19 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Nonsense, if I asked for an uncooked piece of chicken it would get refused anywhere. It’s only steak that I can think of where the customer sees it fit to tell the chef how to do his job. I just agree with restaurants that refuse to go to the point of ruining a fine bit of meat, for someone that has no tastebuds.

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Isn't that a matter of subjective taste?

 

Tbh, I wouldn't want to eat anywhere that displays such food snobbery.

[ealingfox]

 

1 minute ago, Strokes said:

Ask unabomber he bought it up, I’m just agreeing it’s a good decision by those restaurants.

 

Ah ok, a tiny bit of anecdotal evidence that may or may not be true. 

[ealingfox]

5 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Isn't that a matter of subjective taste?

 

Tbh, I wouldn't want to eat anywhere that displays such food snobbery.

 

Agreed, pathetic thing to do.

[Strokes]

2 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Isn't that a matter of subjective taste?

 

Tbh, I wouldn't want to eat anywhere that displays such food snobbery.

Personally buce, I don’t go out for food very often and when I do I go to the best places I can find. Michelin star restaurants if I can, it’s all snobbery and I wouldn’t  dream of asking for a bespoke meal.

If you want to eat a bit of flat charcoal there are plenty of places that will facilitate that but those that don’t, I’m cool with.

[Buce]

4 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Personally buce, I don’t go out for food very often and when I do I go to the best places I can find. Michelin star restaurants if I can, it’s all snobbery and I wouldn’t  dream of asking for a bespoke meal.

If you want to eat a bit of flat charcoal there are plenty of places that will facilitate that but those that don’t, I’m cool with.

 

Sure, that's entirely your prerogative, mate, and as someone who doesn't eat meat, my opinion of how it's best cooked is worthless. The point I'm making is regarding the principle that taste is entirely subjective and to say that a steak can only be cooked one way is pompous and ridiculous.

[Max Wall]

21 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Ironically, usually a well cooked steak. 

No reps left at 10am. The steak conversation has done for me.

[Strokes]

2 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Sure, that's entirely your prerogative, mate, and as someone who doesn't eat meat, my opinion of how it's best cooked is worthless. The point I'm making is regarding the principle that taste is entirely subjective and to say that a steak can only be cooked one way is pompous and ridiculous.

I think it’s entirely up to the restaurant to choose what options they offer, I don’t think it’s particularly pompous but if it is, so what?

[Max Wall]

1 minute ago, Buce said:

 

Sure, that's entirely your prerogative, mate, and as someone who doesn't eat meat, my opinion of how it's best cooked is worthless. The point I'm making is regarding the principle that taste is entirely subjective and to say that a steak can only be cooked one way is pompous and ridiculous.

That's the point I've been making/trying to make throughout. Maybe I shouldn't have bothered with examples or analogies and just said it straight like this. Not particularly to you @Strokes. I was actually replying to someone else in the first instance.

[Strokes]

15 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

 

Ah ok, a tiny bit of anecdotal evidence that may or may not be true. 

Are we not accepting anecdotal evidence anymore for conversations then? Was there something that made you think it was anything else?

[Buce]

6 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I think it’s entirely up to the restaurant to choose what options they offer, I don’t think it’s particularly pompous but if it is, so what?

 

So nothing, mate, if you're happy with it.

 

Personally, I think pomposity is an unpleasant trait.

[ealingfox]

2 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Are we not accepting anecdotal evidence anymore for conversations then? Was there something that made you think it was anything else?

 

Of course we are, but I thought we might have at least have a named restaurant that employs this policy or a specific incident. I thought it might at least have been something you've experienced personally.

 

Tbh if a steak restaurant advertised and makes customers aware of such a policy before they sit down, then as you say it's the restaurants choice and people can make their mind up beforehand. But the idea that a restaurant has the right to tell customers what to do at the table is fanciful at best. The point remains that you've got plenty of scope to tell a chef 'how to do his job'. Just because you don't bother doesn't mean nobody does.

[Max Wall]

I'm now unclear as to which is the unpopular opinion.