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Pork can’t be overrated as I don’t know many who rate it. Pork belly is ok if cooked well but doesn’t come close to a perfectly cooked steak, the versatility of chicken and the flavour of well cooked lamb.

 

When it comes to steak I won’t touch rump, too tough when cooked below medium and dry as anything if cooked more due to lack of fat. Best imo is ribeye cooked medium rare, the fat will melt if started on a blazing pan and left to rest for adequate time. Also can’t go wrong with rare/blue fillet as long as you have some strong flavours to go with it, can’t beat the texture. Sirloin can be good to if you get a decent piece.

 

Anyone who doesn’t rate steak simply hasn’t had a decent cut that has been cooked well and rested. Oh and just go to a hawksmoor then all will make sense. 

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Chicken sits bottom of the list for me nowadays on roast dinners. Pork, lamb beef, and even turkey are much nicer. 

 

Steak - Medium rare or rare. Can't have medium FFS! Definitely got to rest it too. Makes a big difference to the tenderness. 

 

Love me a steak, home-made chips, onion rings, mushrooms, onions, peas. And topped with gravy. Then a bit of an Oxo cube sprinkled over the chips. It melts into the gravy and tastes intense. 

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36 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Chicken sits bottom of the list for me nowadays on roast dinners. Pork, lamb beef, and even turkey are much nicer. 

 

 

Lamb is my favourite but I can’t stand mint sauce or minted gravy.

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36 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

I like steak restaurants that refuse to cook steak past a certain point as they don’t want to ruin the meat. 

When you're paying, you like to be told how you can have your food cooked regardless of the way you actually want it?

 

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49 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Chicken sits bottom of the list for me nowadays on roast dinners. Pork, lamb beef, and even turkey are much nicer. 

 

Steak - Medium rare or rare. Can't have medium FFS! Definitely got to rest it too. Makes a big difference to the tenderness. 

 

Love me a steak, home-made chips, onion rings, mushrooms, onions, peas. And topped with gravy. Then a bit of an Oxo cube sprinkled over the chips. It melts into the gravy and tastes intense. 

 

How would you feel about a fried egg on there? This could be a deal breaker.... 

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Medium steak for me is good.  Who cares how people like it cooked you snobs.  Lol

 

Whether you naw it off a live cow, eat it rare,  medium or well done  so long as you enjoy it thats fantastic!

 

I used to eat it cooked through but with age I've found medium or jussssssst slightly under  medium is nice and soft. Of course you've got to take it down before it gets to medium or it will over cook.

 

I much prefer lamb or goat meat if we are talking red  meats. Seeing as we have an abundance of deer/moose/elk here in canada they are very tasty too.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Max Wall said:

When you're paying, you like to be told how you can have your food cooked regardless of the way you actually want it?

 

It’s a restaurant that has standards, it’s not unusual to not be able to have things entirely bespoke. Ask McDonald’s for a triple quarter pounder, or even a rare burger. Ask a pub chain for something not set on the menu and you will be met with the same refusal. 

High quality grill restaurants should refuse to overcook food, they have a reputation to uphold.

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1 hour ago, Strokes said:

It’s a restaurant that has standards, it’s not unusual to not be able to have things entirely bespoke. Ask McDonald’s for a triple quarter pounder, or even a rare burger. Ask a pub chain for something not set on the menu and you will be met with the same refusal. 

High quality grill restaurants should refuse to overcook food, they have a reputation to uphold.

Nothing was mentioned about a high quality restaurant in the post.

High quality restaurants should cook steak the way the paying customer wants it cooked. Otherwise, for that punter, they are a low quality restaurant that you pay through the nose for. No?.

Let's go on that though, how much do you have to pay for a steak at one of these high quality restaurants before you allow them to cook a piece of meat the way they want to instead of the way you want it cooked?

Is there a price cut off point?

Just interested.

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1 minute ago, Max Wall said:

Nothing was mentioned about a high quality restaurant in the post.

High quality restaurants should cook meat the way the paying customer wants it cooked. Otherwise, for that punter, they are a low quality restaurant.

Let's go on that though, how much do you have to pay for a steak at one of these high quality restaurants before you allow them to cook a piece of meat the way they want to instead of the way you want it cooked?

Just interested.

I don’t think it needed to be mentioned really, perhaps @Unabomber can correct me?

 

I want the chef to cook me the meat the way he see’s as best. That’s why I pay more at his restaurant than I do down the pub.  If a paying customer was asking me to install something to a standard I wasn’t happy with, I wouldn’t do it. 

There is no set price for having standards max, I’ve just explained that. Do you tell chefs how you want anything else cooked?

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10 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think it needed to be mentioned really, perhaps @Unabomber can correct me?

 

I want the chef to cook me the meat the way he see’s as best. That’s why I pay more at his restaurant than I do down the pub.  If a paying customer was asking me to install something to a standard I wasn’t happy with, I wouldn’t do it. 

There is no set price for having standards max, I’ve just explained that. Do you tell chefs how you want anything else cooked?

 

 

You mean if he wanted it to actually work?

 

Fvck him off, mate, you have your reputation to uphold... :D

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54 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think it needed to be mentioned really, perhaps @Unabomber can correct me?

 

I want the chef to cook me the meat the way he see’s as best. That’s why I pay more at his restaurant than I do down the pub.  If a paying customer was asking me to install something to a standard I wasn’t happy with, I wouldn’t do it. 

There is no set price for having standards max, I’ve just explained that. Do you tell chefs how you want anything else cooked?

I still don't get it.

By that reckoning, when you ask for a bottle of beer to go with your high quality steak, the restaurant should refuse to sell you it and insist you buy the £50 bottle of red because the red wine compliments the steak better.

 

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1 hour ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think it needed to be mentioned really, perhaps @Unabomber can correct me?

 

I want the chef to cook me the meat the way he see’s as best. That’s why I pay more at his restaurant than I do down the pub.  If a paying customer was asking me to install something to a standard I wasn’t happy with, I wouldn’t do it. 

There is no set price for having standards max, I’ve just explained that. Do you tell chefs how you want anything else cooked?

 

Yeah and most people do let the chef cook it the way the chef sees fit. But if you want to, you always have the option to ask it the way you would like it, be it steak or anything else, and the restaurant is obliged to cater to your wishes. You do what the customer wants, that's one of the basic principles of the hospitality industry.

 

If someone wants their steak well done you can roll your eyes all you want, but you should still do it and it's bad service to refuse to.

 

You can also reserve the right to go mental at them if they then complain about it afterwards.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think it needed to be mentioned really, perhaps @Unabomber can correct me?

 

I want the chef to cook me the meat the way he see’s as best. That’s why I pay more at his restaurant than I do down the pub.  If a paying customer was asking me to install something to a standard I wasn’t happy with, I wouldn’t do it. 

There is no set price for having standards max, I’ve just explained that. Do you tell chefs how you want anything else cooked?

For the record, I like my steak rare. My Mrs on the other hand, likes her steak well done, very well done. 

She won't touch a single thing on the plate if there's even a hint of blood on it. When she is paying, why shouldn't she have it the way she wants it?

 

It's akin to a 45 year old bloke going into an Armani shop and buying skinny jeans. Should the counter assistant say 'fvck off mate, I'm not selling you those, we've got a reputation to uphold, you'll look a right dick in our skinny jeans, grow up.'

Maybe they should but they don't because he's paying. If he wants to look a dick, that's really up to him if he's footing the bill. In my opinion of course.

 

I understand your point about an installation (presuming it's something that could endanger life like a boiler for example) but, are you seriously telling me, if a punter was going to pay you well over the odds to build a bed to his specifications, you wouldn't do it because it's something you wouldn't normally produce?

 

I'm with @Jattdogg, telling other people what their palette should be is just plain snotty. 

 

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7 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Yeah and most people do let the chef cook it the way the chef sees fit. But if you want to, you always have the option to ask it the way you would like it, be it steak or anything else, and the restaurant is obliged to cater to your wishes. You do what the customer wants, that's one of the basic principles of the hospitality industry.

 

If someone wants their steak well done you can roll your eyes all you want, but you should still do it and it's bad service to refuse to.

 

You can also reserve the right to go mental at them if they then complain about it afterwards.

 

 

 

My point precisely.

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I used to get steaks well done when I was younger because the blood put me off. Now i always get it rare. But i agree restaurant that won't cook to your preference is silly, just sounds a bit hipster to me. If you're paying, you should be allowed to ruin a steak.

 

One of the best steaks I've ever had in Leicester is at Grosvenor casino. Had a heavy night, ordered a surf and turf at about 2am and it was absolutely fantastic. Had it again sober just to check and again it was great. And I'm comparing that to both pubs and high end steak restaurants. 

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