Double-barrelled surnames?

[davieG]

These seem to be coming more and more popular amongst 'ordinary' people when in the past they were the domain of the upper classes.

 

Do people think they have merit and are justifiable or just trendy and pretentious.

 

As someone who must have one of the most boring first and surnames I find them a bit like personalised car number plates, pretentious.

(PS my daughter has a personalised number plate )

 

Also what happens when a doubled-barrelled(db) named person partners up with someone else or even another db named person?

 

[David Guiza]

I'm getting married in a couple of months and we thought about doing it (wahey) so as to keep both family names, however we both have surnames beginning with H and it would have sounded terrible.

 

Also, say it to his face:-

 

[davieG]

Just now, David Guiza said:

I'm getting married in a couple of months and we thought about doing it (wahey) so as to keep both family names, however we both have surnames beginning with H and it would have sounded terrible.

 

Also, say it to his face:-

 

Ha, ha. I've no problem with people doing it it's just something I couldn't do even though I hate my single syllable names. I'd just feel embarrassed. Maybe that says more about me than them.

[RonnieTodger]

Daft. The next generation's children will end up with 4 surnames.

[Webbo]

I always assumed it was something to do with marriage break up. The person's real name plus their step father's name.

[Bellend Sebastian]

We had kids before we got married, and we made the decision that we didn't really want the kids to have two names - just because it's a bit unwieldy rather than because of any class connotations or anything along those lines. They've got my name, and I cannot remember why my wife conceded to that - I might have pointed out to her that she often thinks her Dad is a twat, and his father was apparently a proper twat all of the time, so is there any pressure to keep that name going?

 

My wife kept her name when we got married, which is fair enough. I can quite see why people don't want to take their partner's names, each to their own and all that

Edited 11 June 2018 by Bellend Sebastian

[Suzie the Fox]

I wasn’t married when I had my son and we couldn’t decide whos surname he would take on. In the end we opted for both out names as it had quite a bit of a ring to it. 

 

So my son is Wells-walling. Which I think he is the only one in the world with that last name.  

 

He loves it. 

[Countryfox]

29 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

 

As someone who must have one of the most boring first and surnames ...

 

 

So ...    your name is John Smith then Davie ? ....   

[Countryfox]

14 minutes ago, Webbo said:

I always assumed it was something to do with marriage break up. The person's real name plus their step father's name.

 

The worst of the lot are those with surnames as their first names ...    bloomin odd imo !! ...     

[davieG]

Just now, Countryfox said:

 

So ...    your name is John Smith then Davie ? ....   

Not quite, as in one of the most boring not necessarily most common. You'll never guess it anyway.

[Countryfox]

7 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

I wasn’t married when I had my son and we couldn’t decide whos surname he would take on. In the end we opted for both out names as it had quite a bit of a ring to it. 

 

So my son is Wells-walling. Which I think he is the only one in the world with that last name.  

 

He loves it. 

 

Could job one of you was not called Drystone ...    or Fargo ...      good game this !! ...   

[Countryfox]

2 minutes ago, davieG said:

Not quite, as in one of the most boring not necessarily most common. You'll never guess it anyway.

 

George Mainwaring ? ...   

[Izzy]

20 minutes ago, David Guiza said:

I'm getting married in a couple of months and we thought about doing it (wahey) so as to keep both family names, however we both have surnames beginning with H and it would have sounded terrible.

 

Also, say it to his face:-

 

 

Me and the wife both have surnames beginning with H too. I kept my surname when we got married but she double barrelled.

 

In order to keep my family name going I insisted that our kids have my surname (the wife’s got brothers and nephews to keep her family name going

 

However, when our kids were born she persuaded me to let them double barrel too.

 

I’m still bitter about it as I think their double barrel name sounds stupid but as always, the wife wins...

[Izzy]

12 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

I wasn’t married when I had my son and we couldn’t decide whos surname he would take on. In the end we opted for both out names as it had quite a bit of a ring to it. 

 

So my son is Wells-walling. Which I think he is the only one in the world with that last name.  

 

He loves it. 

I think Wells-Walling sounds cool. My son has got a friend who’s a Watts-Wiggett 

 

Although my kids double barrel surname doesn’t sound as good, I also think it’s unique and the only one in the world too...

[Countryfox]

2 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

 

Me and the wife both have surnames beginning with H too. I kept my surname when we got married but she double barrelled.

 

 

Must admit I’ve looked at the wife in the past and thought of double barrelling ...    

[kingcarr21]

What about DB first names? My daughter is Ella-Rose. My wife's favourite Auntie back in Venezuela is called Rosa. She thought Rose as a middle name wouldn't be a good enough tribute to her Auntie so we went with Ella-Rose and no middle name.

 

I don't know of another Ella-Rose personally but there are a few on Facebook.

 

 

[Babylon]

Basically it's a load of pussy whipped blokes caving in to the Mrs. 

[Captain...]

It could come from the european influence, lots of latin countries double barrel their names (without the hyphen), father's family name first, mother's family name second. I don't think they change it when they get married and their kids take their Father's paternal family name and their mother's paternal family name.

 

So Ulloa for example is José Leonardo Ulloa Fernández if he married Penélope Cruz Sánchez their kids would be Filbert Ulloa Cruz. I like this approach. Although there have been some complaints about the male name coming first and that it should be alphabetical, but then they realised that after a few generations everyone would be called Alonso Alonso.

[Babylon]

I tell you what really needs discussing, blokes taking their Mrs's surname when they get married... now that's a whole other level of weird.

[RoboFox]

I personally wouldn't but only because my surname is unusual and a bit daft, and just doesn't sound right when coupled with any first names, let alone another surname. I can understand why people would though, the days of traditionally taking the paternal name are long gone.

 

11 minutes ago, kingcarr21 said:

What about DB first names?

 

I don't have any issue with this, EXCEPT when idiots on Facebook inexplicably hyphenate their first and middle names in order to make themselves seem more interesting. I've seen it quite a lot. One of my friends' sisters is called Sarah. When she moved to London she decided to hyphenate it with her middle name so she's now Sarah-Emma. I'm like, "yeah that doesn't even work, get in the sea."

Edited 11 June 2018 by RoboFox

[Izzy]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Basically it's a load of pussy whipped blokes caving in to the Mrs. 

Spot on 

 

I think a lot of it is down to more equal rights/gender equality or whatever you call it these days.

 

More and more women want their kids to have their name too rather than just taking the traditional fathers surname..

 

Which is fair enough I suppose...

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

Spot on 

 

I think a lot of it is down to more equal rights/gender equality or whatever you call it these days.

 

More and more women want their kids to have their name too rather than just taking the traditional fathers surname..

 

Which is fair enough I suppose...

Anything for an easy life

 

Next thing they'll be complaining that the father of the bride has to pay for the wedding. They're never happy.

Edited 11 June 2018 by Babylon

[kingcarr21]

1 minute ago, RoboFox said:

I personally wouldn't but only because my surname is unusual and a bit daft, and just doesn't sound right when coupled with any first names, let alone another surname. I can understand why people would though, the days of traditionally taking the paternal name are long gone.

 

I don't have any issue with this, EXCEPT when idiots on Facebook inexplicably hyphenate their first and middle names in order to make themselves seem more interesting. I've seen it quite a lot. One of my friends' sisters is called Sarah. When she moved to London she decided to hyphenate it with her middle name so she's now Sarah-Emma. I'm like, "yeah that doesn't even work, get in the sea."

 

Sarah-Emma  f*** is that all about

[Alf Bentley]

16 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

We had kids before we got married, and we made the decision that we didn't really want the kids to have two names - just because it's a bit unwieldy rather than because of any class connotations or anything along those lines. They've got my name, and I cannot remember why my wife conceded to that - I might have pointed out to her that she often thinks her Dad is a twat, and his father was apparently a proper twat all of the time, so is there any pressure to keep that name going?

 

My wife kept her name when we got married, which is fair enough. I can quite see why people don't want to take their partner's names, each to their own and all that

 

 

Similar situation and similar reasons with my daughter. Though it was my ex who wanted her to have my surname, as she felt her family name was associated with bad luck. We were married but she had kept her maiden name. I proposed using her surname as an extra middle name for daughter and she agreed. Researching family history now, I find that quite a few Irish and American relations did this - father's name as surname, mother's name as middle name.

 

The Spanish and Portuguese habitually use double names - 2 for the Spanish, sometimes 4+ for the Portuguese, though only 1-2 are ever used (e.g. Leonardo Ulloa Fernández). Still tends to be the paternal surnames that survive beyond 1-2 generations, I think. Can understand that seeming unfair to some, esp. women. 

 

My daughter has asked why we didn't give her both surnames and sometimes writes both as her name. Once she's 18, if she wants to change her name to double-barreled by deed poll, I'd have no objections - though it would seem a bit cumbersome to me, and just postpones a decision by a generation.

 

GTF is a different case. He was born Gary Taylor but married a woman named Fletcher and they both became Taylor-Fletcher. I don't know if that makes him a romantic, a feminist or an eccentric - but suggests he's a strong character to do that in the conservative world of football (or maybe his wife is a strong, dominant woman!).

[Izzy]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Anything for an easy life

Amen to that brother