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[NewquayFox]

East stand having another tier, might be cheaper to remove it and start fresh as poor quality materials and labour when it was originally built, can’t do anything with the West Stand.....

[Spudulike]

41 minutes ago, NewquayFox said:

East stand having another tier, might be cheaper to remove it and start fresh as poor quality materials and labour when it was originally built, can’t do anything with the West Stand.....

With executive boxes inbetween Should be good for hanging flags ??

 

Perhaps they'll move the cameras to the West Stand to show it off.

[SemperEadem]

5 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

With executive boxes inbetween Should be good for hanging flags ??

 

Perhaps they'll move the cameras to the West Stand to show it off.

Doubt they will let you hang it over precious boxes. You can't currently hang a flag over a King Power signage and there is plenty of that.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Wouldn't be surprised if the expansion is the death of L1. They're not going to build a big new stand with loads of corporate facilities and then want L1 in the bottom half of it.

 

Best thing they could do in that scenario would be to move the family stand and let L1 and Union FS have that stand behind the goal as some sort of official singing section and let 'the Kop' rest in peace. 

 

Will be interesting to see how it plays out...

[Spudulike]

57 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Wouldn't be surprised if the expansion is the death of L1. They're not going to build a big new stand with loads of corporate facilities and then want L1 in the bottom half of it.

 

Best thing they could do in that scenario would be to move the family stand and let L1 and Union FS have that stand behind the goal as some sort of official singing section and let 'the Kop' rest in peace. 

 

Will be interesting to see how it plays out...

Can't see the club doing that or the security being in favour. The Family (or Lineker) Stand acts as a buffer to prevent agressive youth's from gathering close to away fans. L1 has caused the club enough of a problem in recent years to not want to encourage an even bigger problem and flashpoint. That's how they'll see it, I presume.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Wouldn't be surprised if the expansion is the death of L1. They're not going to build a big new stand with loads of corporate facilities and then want L1 in the bottom half of it.

I did think this. Will be interesting to see how they handle it as they banged on about atmosphere being at 'the heart of the expansion'.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

37 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I did think this. Will be interesting to see how they handle it as they banged on about atmosphere being at 'the heart of the expansion'.

Yeah, I half worry that's code for "we're going to completely disrupt L1 for the expansion but don't worry we'll make sure you're all still together at the other end of the ground in our Kop (just where we want you) so that the atmosphere in our new bigger stadium is still great"

[ealingfox]

9 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Yeah, I half worry that's code for "we're going to completely disrupt L1 for the expansion but don't worry we'll make sure you're all still together at the other end of the ground in our Kop (just where we want you) so that the atmosphere in our new bigger stadium is still great"

 

Yeah but that would be better wouldn't it? L1 on it's own is a complete non-entity these days.

[purpleronnie]

Clubs always talk about atmosphere, it's not important to the majority of them, the comment could mean the club think more fans = more atmosphere which often isn't the case.  Fans really need to start pressuring the club, like derby and other clubs did to get things to improve but we seem to be quite an apathetic lot (myself included) and we just hope things will be ok.

[Ashley]

34 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Clubs always talk about atmosphere, it's not important to the majority of them, the comment could mean the club think more fans = more atmosphere which often isn't the case.  Fans really need to start pressuring the club, like derby and other clubs did to get things to improve but we seem to be quite an apathetic lot (myself included) and we just hope things will be ok.

Good post.

 

In all seriousness. If we want the Atmopshere improving there is one option.

 

I am being serious in saying this too and its swap the kop with the family stand. 

 

It wont happen due to the family stand being 600? odd seats less than the kop. 

[Voll Blau]

1 hour ago, purpleronnie said:

Clubs always talk about atmosphere, it's not important to the majority of them, the comment could mean the club think more fans = more atmosphere which often isn't the case.  Fans really need to start pressuring the club, like derby and other clubs did to get things to improve but we seem to be quite an apathetic lot (myself included) and we just hope things will be ok.

Fans are constantly pressuring LCFC for this, it's not a question of needing to start. It's a question of the club needing to listen.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

40 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Clubs always talk about atmosphere, it's not important to the majority of them, the comment could mean the club think more fans = more atmosphere which often isn't the case.  Fans really need to start pressuring the club, like derby and other clubs did to get things to improve but we seem to be quite an apathetic lot (myself included) and we just hope things will be ok.

Yeah, talk is cheap but pissing people off to make room for others or whatever isn't. 

 

Proof is in the pudding I guess. 

[Spudulike]

If King Power are really serious about improving the atmosphere then perhaps they should make some concessions to gently persuade all those ex-Double-deckers and Carling Standers that currently frequent the 'Kop' to relocate to the all new shiney East Stand. Re-invent the Kop, even give it a new name, and make it the cheap seats for the under-25's (the centre blocks, SK2 & SK3).

 

It will no doubt upset some (those that have been in those seats since the Stadium opened) but if they are incentivized to get a good deal elsewhere then perhaps they might move. We've never had a proper home end due to the way the move from Filbert Street was handled but will now be very tricky to achieve. The Filbo Kop was never a place that older, sensitive fans or little kids went in with each part of the ground having it's own type of fan. That's never happened at Freeman's Wharf and probably never will.

[Ashley]

24 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Fans are constantly pressuring LCFC for this, it's not a question of needing to start. It's a question of the club needing to listen.

So how do WE go about doing so?

[Voll Blau]

1 hour ago, Ashley said:

So how do WE go about doing so?

Get organised. Simple as. Find a group of supporters with the same values as yourself and get organised.

[purpleronnie]

1 hour ago, Voll Blau said:

Fans are constantly pressuring LCFC for this, it's not a question of needing to start. It's a question of the club needing to listen.

How have they pressured the club?

[Voll Blau]

3 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

How have they pressured the club?

Union FS for one have fought constantly for the past few years, both in meetings with the club and publicly, to get LCFC to be more open about listening to supporters on the issues of atmosphere and the introduction of rail seating areas. I also know this to be the case among individuals who attend the fan forum type things the club put on. I don't think there are any more "active" fans at Derby or anywhere else than there are here in that sense, but the difference was their clubs are willing to listen.

 

Besides, before that there was the N Block thing which the club set up after pressure from fans and then disbanded, and groups like the Fosse Boys, who while a monumentally stupid kamakaze outfit, were definitely piling pressure on the club to try and get them to listen. I think there was also an independent attempt to try and get the club to meet with the Safe Standing Roadshow guy?

 

Should more people be standing up and making their voices heard? Absolutely. But it'd be wrong to say there haven't been supporters involved in pressuring the club on these issues. It's been going on for years.

Edited 13 July 2018 by Voll Blau

[pleatout]

2 hours ago, Ashley said:

Good post.

 

In all seriousness. If we want the Atmopshere improving there is one option.

 

I am being serious in saying this too and its swap the kop with the family stand. 

 

It wont happen due to the family stand being 600? odd seats less than the kop. 

No, it wont happen because of  the, albeit small, number of boneheads in L1 and in the away section.  No one needs the spectacle of morons charging across seats, hurling coins at each other.  It is simple crowd management.  You surround the away fans with families and day trippers and then (hopefully) they behave like normal human beings.  At the same time you put you own coin hurling lowlife as far away from the away fans as possible.

 

When we moved from Filbert Street the only people that "moved" were the supporters club corner and the away fans and that was deliberate, to move the away fans as far as possible away from the old pen 2/3.  Thankfully most of the idiots have now gone elsewhere.

 

The clubs ambition is clearly champions league on a regular basis and no one is going to reorganise the ground to make sure that some 80's throwback european "ultras" are situated next to our very own brand of babysquad wannabe boneheads.

Edited 13 July 2018 by pleatout
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[Ashley]

23 minutes ago, pleatout said:

No, it wont happen because of  the, albeit small, number of boneheads in L1 and in the away section.  No one needs the spectacle of morons charging across seats, hurling coins at each other.  It is simple crowd management.  You surround the away fans with families and day trippers and then (hopefully) they behave like normal human beings.  At the same time you put you own coin hurling lowlife as far away from the away fans as possible.

 

When we moved from Filbert Street the only people that "moved" were the supporters club corner and the away fans and that was deliberate, to move the away fans as far as possible away from the old pen 2/3.  Thankfully most of the idiots have now gone elsewhere.

 

The clubs ambition is clearly champions league on a regular basis and no one is going to reorganise the ground to make sure that some 80's throwback european "ultras" are situated next to our very own brand of babysquad wannabe boneheads.

 

 

Well you sir are wrong.

[Ted Maul]

The club would be foolish not to look into how the atmosphere could be improved.

 

Look at Palace- a second division outfit if ever there was one, but respected as a Premier League club because they have allowed a fan group to get organised and take over one stand as a singing section. Potential players could buy into the reputation of playing in a decent atmosphere and choose them over another club and it can help the players on the pitch (as we know from our great escape).

 

Flat atmospheres don't help anyone.

[Stadt]

One of the issues on the club's part is that most directors and employees aren't football fans let alone Leicester fans. Their idea of an atmosphere is clappers, fireworks and paying Supporters Art to do a bland display. The best atmospheres across the world are as a result of the supporters, clubs can definitely help but it's down to fans to make noise.

Edited 13 July 2018 by Stadt

[pleatout]

1 hour ago, Ashley said:

 

Well you sir are wrong.

I've been told that before.  About any particular thing or just everything?

[Ashley]

9 minutes ago, pleatout said:

I've been told that before.  About any particular thing or just everything?

Everything. Its been discused at fan meetings before. They've recently built the access to the club shop from the family stand and the family stand holds around 600 seats less.

 

To move the kop and family stand you would need equal amount of seats to do so or make the away end start closer to L Block. 

[davieG]

2 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Everything. Its been discused at fan meetings before. They've recently built the access to the club shop from the family stand and the family stand holds around 600 seats less.

 

To move the kop and family stand you would need equal amount of seats to do so or make the away end start closer to L Block. 

Or maybe only 600 of the KOP would want to move certainly not all especially if the reason to do so was for the vocal fans as a high proportion of the current KOP are ex Double Decker / Pen 4s

 

But it's a pointless debate as the police wont let it happen and as you say it connects to the shop which is not going to appeal to those that would consider moving and does suit the family lot or the club sales.

[Ashley]

14 minutes ago, davieG said:

Or maybe only 600 of the KOP would want to move certainly not all especially if the reason to do so was for the vocal fans as a high proportion of the current KOP are ex Double Decker / Pen 4s

 

But it's a pointless debate as the police wont let it happen and as you say it connects to the shop which is not going to appeal to those that would consider moving and does suit the family lot or the club sales.

Derby managed to do it and Middlesbrough too. If we got enough people behind it im sure we could eventually get them to budge.