AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 1 hour ago, Facecloth said: Buce hasn't posted since his last post in here. People are busy. I often have time to browse but not post, give him chance to respond, it's the middle of the working day. Ah, turns out he just has nothing. A class act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 7 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Ah, turns out he just has nothing. A class act Or the mods deleted the proof, how convenient for you . Just because the evidence is gone, doesn't mean it didn't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 Also in the news... https://tanksgoodnews.com/2019/03/21/seeing-eye-puppy-story/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 15 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: Also in the news... https://tanksgoodnews.com/2019/03/21/seeing-eye-puppy-story/ That's flipping adorable tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 1 hour ago, Facecloth said: Or the mods deleted the proof, how convenient for you . Just because the evidence is gone, doesn't mean it didn't happen. He’s counting on it, mate. I’m pretty sure people will make their own judgement on the the truth of it when they remember which of us it is that mocks rape victims and thinks that a woman grabbed by the throat will go home and ‘knock one out’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULCFC Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, bovril said: Not really 'news' as such but I really enjoyed this long read: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/27/the-invention-of-essex-how-a-county-became-a-caricature Really good piece,as someone who has only gone to Essex for the Southend game in L1 and Stanstead i learned a bit.(Is West Ham classed as Essex?) Edited 27 June 2019 by PAULCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Facecloth said: Or the mods deleted the proof, how convenient for you . Just because the evidence is gone, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Lol. If i had defended paedophilia do you think i wouldnt have been banned? Mods, ban this guy for calling you paedophilia-apologist-adjacent Nice to see you guys backing each other no matter what He couldnt defend what he said and you are on his side. Good work Also, of you are interested in the details i would be happy to fill in where Buce wont because he knows what he has said is a shameless representation. But you wont ask and he wont tell because neither of you actually care about being fair and accurate. Love you though. People like you guys are the reason i still grace this site Edited 27 June 2019 by AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Lol. If i had defended paedophilia do you think i wouldnt have been banned? Mods, ban this guy for calling you paedophilia-apologist-adjacent Nice to see you guys backing each other no matter what He couldnt defend what he said and you are on his side. Good work Also, of you are interested in the details i would be happy to fill in where Buce wont because he knows what he has said is a shameless representation. But you wont ask and he wont tell because neither of you actually care about being fair and accurate. Love you though. People like you guys are the reason i still grace this site Go on then, what did you say? I'm not backing him up, but whilst Buce seems on of the nicest blokes on here, you're coming across as a bit of a twat, so. And you did make the ridiculous remarks that the woman Mark Field attacked would be sexually aroused by it. I also have no reason to disbelieve Buce, why would he create a story about you saying those things on here. He's posted here a while and I've never seen him doing that, or he too would be banned. Edited 27 June 2019 by Facecloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: Go on then, what did you say? I'm not backing him up, but whilst Buce seems on of the nicest blokes on here, you're coming across as a bit of a twat, so. And you did make the ridiculous remarks that the woman Mark Field attacked would be sexually aroused by it. That was a joke about Mark Field. Maybe tasteless, but to take it literally is disingenuous And i'll tell you happily, you can ask Buce if this is wrong as he has already accused me of the will to hide it: After leaving neverland came out i looked into it on reddit threads and various yt bloggers and suggested on here i though MJ might be innocent The truth is he may or may not be innocent of the crime of paedophilia, but i opined the suggestion he is innocent after what i read and heard. Of course we cant know for sure whether he did or not based on evidence. Now, whether he is innocent or not is not the point here. If he did it then I say he can burn in hell of course, because i'm not a paedo apologist. Never ever did I defend the act, and who the hell would?! Buce said it was disturbing that I was defending him in this thread that was deleted Later on in another thread he referred to me as a paedophilia apologist And this is the second time he has done it Do you agree with him that i am defending paedophiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 Interesting and sickening FT article about the formative years of leading Tories at Oxford: https://www.ft.com/content/85fc694c-9222-11e9-b7ea-60e35ef678d2?fbclid=IwAR1gnfMt0f7GqbG7puOOR-MEQdTZ0m4e_M-iYPAVGqJk3MGjceoCHeUYGSs "The Union favoured debating skills and ambition without a cause. [...] As the future Spectator columnist Toby Young wrote in the Union’s house magazine in 1985: “It doesn’t matter how unpopular you are with the establishment, how stupid you are, how small your College is or how pretentious your old school: if only you’ve got the sheer will you can succeed". "One thing you learnt at Oxford was how to speak without much knowledge. Underprepared students would spend much of a tutorial talking their way around the holes in their essay. Cherwell praised Simon Stevens as “Oxford’s most talented off-the-cuff tutorial faker”: “Recently Simes read out almost half of an essay to his tutor before his partner revealed that he was ‘reading’ from a blank piece of paper.” Stevens is now chief executive of the National Health Service, appointed in 2013 under health secretary Jeremy Hunt, his Oxford contemporary". "Johnson’s Oxford days are now usually mentioned in connection with his membership of the Bullingdon Club, but in fact he was a vessel of focused ambition. Arriving in Oxford from Eton in 1983, he had three aims: to get a First-class degree, find a wife and become Union president. That post was “the first step to being prime minister”, said Michael Heseltine. [...] Johnson possessed the savvy of his class: he had run Eton’s debating society. Simon Veksner, who followed Johnson from their house at Eton to the Union, tells me: “Boris’s charisma even then was off the charts, you couldn’t measure it: so funny, warm, charming, self-deprecating. You put on a funny act, based on The Beano and PG Wodehouse. It works, and then that is who you are.” "Politicians from 1980s Oxford dominated both the Remain and Leave camps, but they were divided by the subject of their degrees. Oxford’s “prime minister’s degree” is PPE: politics, philosophy, economics. It has often been associated with the Brexiters. Yet in fact in 2016 the PPEists were almost all Remainers: Cameron, Hunt, Stewart, Philip Hammond, Matt Hancock, Sam Gyimah, Hinds, Nick Boles, the Milibands, Balls, Cooper and Peter Mandelson. They had presumably chosen the degree in search of the cutting-edge knowledge needed to run a modern country. [...] By contrast, most Brexiters had studied backward-looking subjects: Classics for Johnson, History for Rees-Mogg and Hannan, and English Literature (which mostly meant the canon) for Gove. They were nostalgics. Hence Johnson’s hagiography of Churchill and Rees-Mogg’s much-mocked recent paean The Victorians, while Gove as education secretary strove to make sure pupils learnt 19th-century literature and Britain’s “island story”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 41 minutes ago, Buce said: He’s counting on it, mate. I’m pretty sure people will make their own judgement on the the truth of it when they remember which of us it is that mocks rape victims and thinks that a woman grabbed by the throat will go home and ‘knock one out’. Just posted the narrative as far as im concerned. Do you disagree with any of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 Sorry to all for making this thread a pure killjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 25 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: That was a joke about Mark Field. Maybe tasteless, but to take it literally is disingenuous And i'll tell you happily, you can ask Buce if this is wrong as he has already accused me of the will to hide it: After leaving neverland came out i looked into it on reddit threads and various yt bloggers and suggested on here i though MJ might be innocent The truth is he may or may not be innocent of the crime of paedophilia, but i opined the suggestion he is innocent after what i read and heard. Of course we cant know for sure whether he did or not based on evidence. Now, whether he is innocent or not is not the point here. If he did it then I say he can burn in hell of course, because i'm not a paedo apologist. Never ever did I defend the act, and who the hell would?! Buce said it was disturbing that I was defending him in this thread that was deleted Later on in another thread he referred to me as a paedophilia apologist And this is the second time he has done it Do you agree with him that i am defending paedophiles? I do remember the Jackson thread now. I didn't realise it was you who started it. I can't see the thread how obviously but I don't remember it being so cut and dry as you make it out to be. A lot of people piled on you in that thread because of your comments and it was eventually deleted. I can't remember exactly what you said, so I'm not going to call you out on them or accuse you of anything, but you did say some controversial stuff. Buce obviously had some recollection when he said what he said. All said, you have no proof you didn't say anything, he has no proof you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 5 minutes ago, Facecloth said: I do remember the Jackson thread now. I didn't realise it was you who started it. I can't see the thread how obviously but I don't remember it being so cut and dry as you make it out to be. A lot of people piled on you in that thread because of your comments and it was eventually deleted. I can't remember exactly what you said, so I'm not going to call you out on them or accuse you of anything, but you did say some controversial stuff. Buce obviously had some recollection when he said what he said. All said, you have no proof you didn't say anything, he has no proof you did. He has already said he knows what is is Time for him to say it i think You people are weird af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 22 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Sorry to all for making this thread a pure killjoy I want a personal apology, followed by an apology made to every member of my ancestry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 Just now, Dr The Singh said: I want a personal apology, followed by an apology made to every member of my ancestry Will you accept it in the currency of an extremely repentant blozzer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 15 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: He has already said he knows what is is Time for him to say it i think You people are weird af He has you ignore, he won't know you keep demanding it. And with good reason, you come across as a bit of a twat tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 3 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Will you accept it in the currency of an extremely repentant blozzer? I don't know what that means but hey asking as you don't touch my ass, I'm cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: He has you ignore, he won't know you keep demanding it. And with good reason, you come across as a bit of a twat tbh. Everyone is bored now, me too He calls me a friend of pedos based on nothing, refuses to explain why, and im the twat I hope that cloth is lines soaked in chloroform and held by Ted Bundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 Just now, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Everyone is bored now, me too He calls me a friend of pedos based on nothing, refuses to explain why, and im the twat I hope that cloth is lines soaked in chloroform and held by Ted Bundy Buce is one of the nicest posters on here. You come across as smug arrogant twat. Like I say I can't remember exactly what you said, but the Jacko thread wasn't as cut and dry as you make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: Buce is one of the nicest posters on here. I mean he's O.K. but... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Buce is one of the nicest posters on here. You come across as smug arrogant twat. Like I say I can't remember exactly what you said, but the Jacko thread wasn't as cut and dry as you make it. I am a smug arrogant twat. Thats fine I just dont dig paephiles! Thats all im saying Buce's silence speaks volumes. He may be a lovely man, but he succumbed in this case, no need to pursue this. He's dropped it for a reason And "not as cut and dry". Seriously? Thats a massive leap of faith into agreeing with your buddy. Do you honestly think i came on here and espoused a defence of paedophilia? - and didnt get suspended/banned for it? I got suspended for making trolly comments about Claude Puel ffs Edited 27 June 2019 by AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 11 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Buce is one of the nicest posters on here. You come across as smug arrogant twat. Like I say I can't remember exactly what you said, but the Jacko thread wasn't as cut and dry as you make it. Like hell, he threatened to beat me up about twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 23 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: Like hell, he threatened to beat me up about twice. You said you enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 27 June 2019 Share Posted 27 June 2019 10 minutes ago, Facecloth said: You said you enjoyed it. I did actually, I couldn't stop laughing, I was tempted to take him up on the offer and meeting him.in the Blue Oyster Bar, which he is king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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