6N 2020

[Nalis]

3 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

Bookies have Ireland to win by 4 against Wales. Wales 4 point handicap looks good considering the Irish didn't pull up any trees against Scotland.

I sadly agree and surprised we are favourites. We created nothing which is worrying. Only plus side was the defence but that was forced out of said lack of ambition plus a Hogg howler of course.

 

I reckon Wales by 3, Scotland by 6 and France by at least 20.

[Realjimbo]

I reckon England are in for a seeing to against the Scots, good excuse to be down the boozer I reckon 😇

[fuchsntf]

On 02/02/2020 at 18:08, Paddy. said:

Maybe not picking a number 8 in the squad wasn't Eddies best move. Not sure how any international coach can think that they'll get a way with playing a flanker at 8. 

Quite a few WClass players,and also down to high Performance Junior clubs,have seen flankers/No8...exchange positions comfortably...

some other forwards,have had the ability (Keeping same Level of quality) through various special Skill forward positions....Its Not rare..!!

 

Though at International Level I agree,players like Lawes,should Stay where they Reserves to Qualify for the Int.Shirt.

Unless you show & Shine ,in Another position...Coaches should Not try and be clever,and try und Force it....

There are other high class players available for every position....x 2...

Its the Challenge to find that exception to the rule players...Something that NZ,do on a regular basis...

 

England are still a Top team,and Eddie Jones,has been a Great coach for the Roses,and still is..!!

Though it was Great to see the French  come alive again..,if Our Handling was better, we would of gone in Front in the First half...Fine Margins..

[Finnegan]

On 06/02/2020 at 19:12, Nalis said:

I sadly agree and surprised we are favourites. We created nothing which is worrying. Only plus side was the defence but that was forced out of said lack of ambition plus a Hogg howler of course.

 

I reckon Wales by 3, Scotland by 6 and France by at least 20.

 

You've basically been shit for a full year now which is kinda crazy when you consider you had a stint at number one, albeit for winning some warm up friendlies. 

 

You were shit in the Six Nations last year, you were shit in the world cup, you were shit against Scotland. I'm surprised Farrell got the job and you didn't go for someone unrelated to the last regime. 

 

He's got no previous as any kind of decent head coach. 

 

All of that said, you've got the personnel to win and we were deceptively average against an atrocious Italy. I'd make it about 50/50 to be honest, given its home field advantage. I'd fancy us to win on neutral ground tbh. 

[Aus Fox]

Have just read the 6 nations are set to become 7 in 2024 with South Africa joining the competition and ditching Australia and New Zealand.

Although, Japan make take their place in the Rugby Championship this would effectively kill the competition.

For South Africa, they get prime time games, less jet lag and less travel. But this could mean an extra few weeks of the 6N depending on how they structured it.

[Izzy]

On 06/02/2020 at 19:12, Nalis said:

 

I reckon Wales by 3, Scotland by 6 and France by at least 20.

I reckon you’re bang on with this. Wonder what the odds on that are?

[STEVIE B]

4 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Have just read the 6 nations are set to become 7 in 2024 with South Africa joining the competition and ditching Australia and New Zealand.

Although, Japan make take their place in the Rugby Championship this would effectively kill the competition.

For South Africa, they get prime time games, less jet lag and less travel. But this could mean an extra few weeks of the 6N depending on how they structured it.

That will be different. Could do with Italy leaving as they haven't progressed at all. Is there a 2nd tier tournament they could join ? 

[Nalis]

17 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

You've basically been shit for a full year now which is kinda crazy when you consider you had a stint at number one, albeit for winning some warm up friendlies. 

 

You were shit in the Six Nations last year, you were shit in the world cup, you were shit against Scotland. I'm surprised Farrell got the job and you didn't go for someone unrelated to the last regime. 

 

He's got no previous as any kind of decent head coach. 

 

All of that said, you've got the personnel to win and we were deceptively average against an atrocious Italy. I'd make it about 50/50 to be honest, given its home field advantage. I'd fancy us to win on neutral ground tbh. 

Yeah in 2018 we would comfortably one of the best two teams in the world but as you say, we've been nowhere near that level for 12 months. A year is a very long time, I think it begs the question (in all sport really), of when do you go from being 'off form' to just being 'a bit shit'? Fear it's the latter.

 

As for Farrell, its up to them to prove us fans wrong, would have been more interesting to see us with a Pivac style coach rather than a more defensive minded coach than Joe.

 

As for you guys, its always incredibly difficult to judge a performance against Italy since other factors might come into play such as conserving energy for other matches, etc. 

[Nalis]

18 minutes ago, STEVIE B said:

That will be different. Could do with Italy leaving as they haven't progressed at all. Is there a 2nd tier tournament they could join ? 

Yeah there is this:

 

 

[Finnegan]

Ugh, why did it have to be Poite. 

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Ugh, why did it have to be Poite. 

 

Apparently Ireland are allowed to pass it forwards and knock it on. Great start. 

[STEVIE B]

Resetting of the scrum is a such a farce. I wouldn't mind so much if the the clock was stopped. In a tight game, going into the final stages it is so obvious the winning side is playing on this negative part of the game 

[Finnegan]

Pretty much how I'd have imagined so far really. 

 

Best we could really hope for having been under the kosh all half. Need more ball to be honest because we look like scoring when we finally do.

[Finnegan]

Ireland get any score next, this one's probably over already. 

 

Credit to Ireland's loose forwards but this has been very disappointing. Absolutely zero territory or possession for coming up to an hour really. 

[Vacamion]

 

Edfie Jones being a bit of a dick in this interview.

 

[Finnegan]

13 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

Edfie Jones being a bit of a dick in this interview.

 

 

I thought they were both ****ing cringe worthy tbh. 

 

She's trying to be Paxman, he's trying to be Mourinho, they're both just poundshop versions of those. 

 

There's nothing clever or intelligent about Jones mind games, it's no mystery why he does it and they've never once actually rattled anyone and made a difference. It's just him projecting himself in to the spotlight to avoid talking about the struggles he's under as a bang average coach. 

 

While we're talking about his ridiculous interviews we're not talking about England's terrible lack of any creativity which has persisted through his entire tenure. 

 

The BBC just crawling up his arse trying to make out he's some rebel genius is just giving him more aura than he's really worth quite frankly.

[Vacamion]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

 

She's trying to be Paxman, he's trying to be Mourinho, 

 

Would watch Paxo interviewing Mourinho. 

[Vacamion]

 

Booing the kicker is a bit wanky.

 

You're not at Hampden.

 

[Finnegan]

This has been ****ing awful. 

[PhillippaT]

7 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

This has been ****ing awful. 

great weather for a rugby match  

[Vacamion]

 

I just popped outside (I'm 40 miles up the road from this game) and nearly got blown off my feet.

 

It's comical, but both sides have to cope with it.

 

[Finnegan]

You can only blame the weather to an extent, both teams have just been shit. 

[Finnegan]

Moore is bang on. Good players adjust. You can't keep doing the same thing in this weather and blaming it. 

 

Scotland much better this half. 

[PhillippaT]

What do we call doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?  

[Finnegan]

This game

 

England out on the full

Scotland lose line out 

England kick it back on the full 

Scotland lose line out 

England kick it back on the full

Scotland lose line out