Fox on the Rox Posted 21 December 2022 Posted 21 December 2022 3 hours ago, hackneyfox said: If he can't get a run of games at Rochdale do you seriously think he's good enough for PL football? There's always more to things than the bare facts convey. The manager who recruited him was indeed sacked after 4 weeks. Nelson started every game under him I think (around 7 games?). Then he had a minor injury which meant he only played one game under the new manager before he was called up to England u19s. He was out for about 4 weeks in total on England duty and followed by illness/injury. Whilst he was out, the new manager Bentley, managed to drag Rochdale off the bottom of the table. Their defence was pretty dire but I think he saw their main issue as an inability to score goals. There were losing 1-0 regularly. Bentley was an old school CB in his playing days, so a very different style of play to Nelson and I think he wanted to focus on sorting out the attack and midfield rather than risk disturbing the defence who he saw as doing the 'least bad' job in the team. That kind of changed when they lost 4-1 to Harrogate at home last time out and I was hopeful Nelson would break back into the starting line up. Unfortunately they've had both games since then postponed due to the weather. We will have to see if he does get back in on Boxing Day. So, I do seriously think he'd be a contender for Amartey's place in the same way a 20-23 year old 'rough diamond' would be. He did get a 7 match run of games at Rochdale till circumstances intervened and could well break back into the starting line up before January. He will have learned a lot from the loan experience off the pitch as well as on. 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 22 December 2022 Posted 22 December 2022 On 20/12/2022 at 21:26, FoxyLeon said: The greatest success story of Rodgers's man management in fairness. But, so was Iheanacho for a 12 months period. Big Dan looks confident though and it's clearly because he's got a manager who trusts him. ...Rodgers had him before Faes and Knudsen came in, where was the love then!!! He is performing because Faes is covering him and he knows he can trust that if he slips up there is someone who will back him up.
The_77 Posted 23 December 2022 Posted 23 December 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...Rodgers had him before Faes and Knudsen came in, where was the love then!!! He is performing because Faes is covering him and he knows he can trust that if he slips up there is someone who will back him up. It goes both ways with Big Dan and Faes. The each have every bit to do with the other’s recent success. Edited 23 December 2022 by The_77 Typo 2
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 3 minutes ago, Col city fan said: What are you on about, you were banging on about him being a confidence player and playing with Faes had helped him and since then he'd looked good. So don't make out you've been saying this for the past few months, lets also acknowledge the build up was probably the bigger issue than the bad tackle itself. 1
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: What are you on about, you were banging on about him being a confidence player and playing with Faes had helped him and since then he'd looked good. So don't make out you've been saying this for the past few months, lets also acknowledge the build up was probably the bigger issue than the bad tackle itself.
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 4 minutes ago, Col city fan said: No reply then, standard
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: No reply then, standard No point, you adore him, I don’t End of
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 4 minutes ago, Col city fan said: No point, you adore him, I don’t End of I don't but as per you couldn't wait to stick the boot in despite going back on your praise of him during our good run. So not sure why you're banging your head against a wall mate 1
Unabomber Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 15 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: What are you on about, you were banging on about him being a confidence player and playing with Faes had helped him and since then he'd looked good. So don't make out you've been saying this for the past few months, lets also acknowledge the build up was probably the bigger issue than the bad tackle itself. Lol good luck 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 1 minute ago, Unabomber said: Lol good luck I'll get banned after he reports me for having a different opinion 🤣
Will1981 Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 23 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Yes pile on Amartey for Faes's error you can not give the ball away on the edge of your own box, Amartey has to make the tackle or Joelinton has a tap in. 1
BigGibbo Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 Nowhere near good enough for this level in his natural position and being consistently played out of position. What more can you say?
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 Just now, BigGibbo said: Nowhere near good enough for this level in his natural position and being consistently played out of position. What more can you say? Apart from the run of clean sheets but yeah
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 You’ll go a long way to find a bigger defensive shambles than this today. Chris Wood, hardly mobile, finds himself literally on his own in the penalty area. Amartey (or others) nowhere near him
westernpark Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 Amartey is not the problem within this squad, but the lack of playable depth at centre back is. That issue is a product of recruitment and Brendan’s squad management. Amartey deserves to start today.
BigGibbo Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: Apart from the run of clean sheets but yeah He can fill in and feign competence at CB over short spells against lesser teams but given long enough this will always happen. It's not his fault it's a coaching error. Evidenced by the fact that even Faes has looked like trough Soyuncu today. 1
Guest Kopfkino Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 I don’t think any amount of good games will ever convince me that he isn’t a huge steaming pile of shit that has played 100 games too many for us
Lambert09 Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 genuinely ridiculous how many people can’t wait for him to make a mistake. All defenders make them. he’s not perfect, we know that. But we haven’t got any better options at the moment. But be careful what you wish for, because if we end up with michael keen or someone similar you can expect those mistakes on a weekly basis 1
Unabomber Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 Just now, Lambert09 said: genuinely ridiculous how many people can’t wait for him to make a mistake. All defenders make them. he’s not perfect, we know that. But we haven’t got any better options at the moment. But be careful what you wish for, because if we end up with michael keen or someone similar you can expect those mistakes on a weekly basis It’s extremely weird behaviour. It almost seems to make certain posters day, they thrive on mocking Amartey. 2
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 I've figured it lads perhaps if Britain wasn't so woke perhaps Amartey would make less mistakes, just a thought 1
An Away Move Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 Ward and Amartey are very far from being the spine in our side.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2022 Posted 26 December 2022 3 minutes ago, Blue-fox said: Not been our worst centre half today Both Amartey and Faes have been utterly utterly horrible.
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