Popular Post westernpark Posted 14 November 2022 Popular Post Posted 14 November 2022 I don’t understand those questioning whether Amartey was capable of his recent performances, based upon a shaky start to the season. Did they not watch him last season? He was perfectly reasonable then. 5 2
Popular Post Rawlings Posted 14 November 2022 Popular Post Posted 14 November 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, westernpark said: I don’t understand those questioning whether Amartey was capable of his recent performances, based upon a shaky start to the season. Did they not watch him last season? He was perfectly reasonable then. There are fans who never rated him. Those fans intentionally forgot that Amartey was a midfielder, who played at right back at city and now being converted to a central defender. The conversion to a central defender was always going to take time. Those who know their football (like BR) knew this day will come and thus gave him time. You either go out and spend $20million on a good defender who does not care for the club and will leave immediatly he gets offers (Forfana) OR you stick with a player who loves the club, is not perfect, but give their all and improves week in and week out. Pick your poison! Edited 14 November 2022 by Rawlings 6 1
filbertway Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 18 minutes ago, Rawlings said: Pick your percentage! Amartey was a midfielder converting to a central defender. BR knew it was a difficult transition and required time. Any reasonable fan, who watches him weekly & understands the game, should have also figured that out It's not rocket science. Well, anyone that knows football knows that big Dan was as much of a CM as Paddy Kisnorbo was 2
Jobyfox Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 16 minutes ago, westernpark said: I don’t understand those questioning whether Amartey was capable of his recent performances, based upon a shaky start to the season. Did they not watch him last season? He was perfectly reasonable then. He really wasn’t! His games were full of poor positioning, lack of confidence and bad decision making. He’s not got the ability to play as a RB and he’s not good enough with the ball as a CDM. I still think it’s great that he’s now proving a lot of people wrong (including me) but, he needs to do something that he’s not done previously, and that’s have a consistent run of form (not just a few games) in one position. Then I will be totally convinced. 1
fuchsntf Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 1 hour ago, gurru991 said: What a ludicrous response !! What percentage of the forum in your highly esteemed opinion don't understand football ? 98.5%..every season FT dicks 5-6 players.. 1
hackneyfox Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 24 minutes ago, Rawlings said: There are fans who never rated him. Those fans intentionally forgot that Amartey was a midfielder, who played at right back at city and now being converted to a central defender. The conversion to a central defender was always going to take time. Those who know their football (like BR) knew this day will come and thus gave him time. You either go out and spend $20million on a good defender who does not care for the club and will leave immediatly he gets offers (Forfana) OR you stick with a player who loves the club, is not perfect, but give their all and improves week in and week out. Pick your poison! There's a middle ground.
Guest TaggertvsWise Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 Just went on Twitter to big Amartey up & found myself realising that I had forgotten Soyuncu existed. Probably a good sign.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 Big Dan laughs in front of the graves of his enemies. He is inevitable. 1 2
Paninistickers Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 44 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: He really wasn’t! His games were full of poor positioning, lack of confidence and bad decision making. He’s not got the ability to play as a RB and he’s not good enough with the ball as a CDM. I still think it’s great that he’s now proving a lot of people wrong (including me) but, he needs to do something that he’s not done previously, and that’s have a consistent run of form (not just a few games) in one position. Then I will be totally convinced. I've been a big fan of Dan at CH, (and RB actually) for a long time however he had the horrendous knack of being penalised for every small error (Chelsea this season summed him up, when the useless sterling fluked that looping effort ......dive in to Sterling and risk getting skinned, hold and delay - as he did - and get battered for not closing down) . Which, in itself, is bad news. Give me lucky me lucky generals and all that. However, maybe he now has a partner to conceal those once a game lapses. He's a modern defender. and I think a tad overcoached. You can see him processing what to do when a striker is at a certain angle...it's almost always textbook correct. Just one thing for the doubters to think on....when did you ever see Dan make a desperate last ditch tackle? Good defending rarely has to..and he fits that bracket. 1
Bazly Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 Big Dan is a better player than most give him credit for. 3 1
Guest Electric Yetis Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 Lot of time for Amartey. Sat in the West Stand for the Newport game and he stayed out pre-match signing autographs and having photos with the kids for ages. Didn't turn anyone down and had a big smile on his face and chatting away with the kids for the whole time. He was out there that long after everybody else I'm sure he must have missed the team talk. My son was delighted to get his photo taken with him.
Bert Posted 14 November 2022 Posted 14 November 2022 5 hours ago, filbertway said: Well, anyone that knows football knows that big Dan was as much of a CM as Paddy Kisnorbo was A lot of our fans won’t remember the glory days of Kisnorbo being played out of position. 2
Rawlings Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Jobyfox said: He really wasn’t! His games were full of poor positioning, lack of confidence and bad decision making. He’s not got the ability to play as a RB and he’s not good enough with the ball as a CDM. I still think it’s great that he’s now proving a lot of people wrong (including me) but, he needs to do something that he’s not done previously, and that’s have a consistent run of form (not just a few games) in one position. Then I will be totally convinced. When in doubt check the stats not your feelings Benching Big Dan: 14 goals in 5 matches, i.e. an average of 2.8 goals/game Starting Big Dan: 1 goal in 6 matches, i.e. an avarege of 0.16 goals/game 6 games 5 clean sheets is consitency enough. Edited 15 November 2022 by Rawlings 3
fuchsntf Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 10 hours ago, filbertway said: Well, anyone that knows football knows that big Dan was as much of a CM as Paddy Kisnorbo was Yes those first words,puts FT totally out of the question...
Bptiger Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 Dan is like having a new player , his form of late has been fantastic, hope he keeps it going for the rest of the season 1
Sly Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 8 hours ago, Bert said: A lot of our fans won’t remember the glory days of Kisnorbo being played out of position. Half the fans are currently on Wikipedia, trying to find out who he is!
Foxxed Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 Second best centre back on the planet last week apparently 2
adam1 Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 16 hours ago, Bert said: A lot of our fans won’t remember the glory days of Kisnorbo being played out of position. Kisnorbo McCauley What a pairing. Second best defence in the league the season we got relegated? Better then the top 4. Problem was with scoring goals.
ParkerPen Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 17 hours ago, Bert said: A lot of our fans won’t remember the glory days of Kisnorbo being played out of position. he used to be shite, but now he's alright 3
turtmcfly Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, Jobyfox said: He really wasn’t! His games were full of poor positioning, lack of confidence and bad decision making. He’s not got the ability to play as a RB and he’s not good enough with the ball as a CDM. I still think it’s great that he’s now proving a lot of people wrong (including me) but, he needs to do something that he’s not done previously, and that’s have a consistent run of form (not just a few games) in one position. Then I will be totally convinced. Not keen on these handwavey detail-free declarations. Or the use of he word 'full' in the preceding sentence, when 'occasional' is much more accurate. Of course, occasional poor positioning and bad decision making is exactly what all our other CBs were guilty of last season and the season before that and the one before that, so I can see the temptation to exaggerate beyond what would otherwise be a very shrugworthy comment. Anyway... What ability is he lacking that prevents him being a right back (ability that say Castagne has)? What extra does he need on the ball to be a decent CDM (on-the-ball chops that say Ndidi had)? Edited 15 November 2022 by turtmcfly a *little* less sarc eh
Jobyfox Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 10 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: I love these handwavey detail-free declarations. And the use of he word 'full' in the preceding sentence, when 'occasional' is much more accurate. Of course, occasional poor positioning and bad decision making is exactly what all our other CBs were guilty of last season and the season before that and the one before that, so I can see the temptation to exaggerate beyond what would otherwise be a very shrugworthy comment. Anyway... What ability is he lacking that prevents him being a right back (ability that say Castagne has)? What extra does he need on the ball to be a decent CDM (on-the-ball chops that say Ndidi had)? I guess it’s one of those you’d be surprised to have to explain to people who have seen him play live on a regular basis.
turtmcfly Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: I guess it’s one of those you’d be surprised to have to explain to people who have seen him play live on a regular basis. I was much less surprised at what he's done over his last 6 games than you were, yet you're at it straight away with the supremely confident calls with regard to the limits of his ability, limits you admit you've already misjudged once. But as expected, when pressed for something beyond 'amateur scout, I use me eyes me' stuff, it's nada time... Edited 15 November 2022 by turtmcfly
Rawlings Posted 15 November 2022 Posted 15 November 2022 22 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: I love these handwavey detail-free declarations. And the use of he word 'full' in the preceding sentence, when 'occasional' is much more accurate. Of course, occasional poor positioning and bad decision making is exactly what all our other CBs were guilty of last season and the season before that and the one before that, so I can see the temptation to exaggerate beyond what would otherwise be a very shrugworthy comment. Anyway... What ability is he lacking that prevents him being a right back (ability that say Castagne has)? What extra does he need on the ball to be a decent CDM (on-the-ball chops that say Ndidi had)? The haters just can't come around to accepting that Big Dan has now mastered the CD. The stats (not feelings & opinions) are proving them wrong week in, week out Last Six matches: 1 goal against, i.e. an avarege of 0.16 goals/game The haters even managed to blame Big Dan for that single goal. "..blah blah blah ..... he should not have commited the foul, that resulted in the free kick that resulted in the goal." Nobody is asking how the opposing player was allowed to get that close to the penalty box. 1
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