dmayne7 Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 53 minutes ago, Torten said: Ferran Torres off to Barca then. Man City must be lining up a move for a forward surely? sign Grealish for £100m sell Torres who's 5 years younger and a more complete player for half that. Great business. Obviously they've made some fantastic signings but that's generally because they're buying the finished product but there's been some shocking business under Pep particularly.
dmayne7 Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 2 minutes ago, Alex_LCFC said: Can’t work out who’s got the better Deal, looks class and still young will only get better to think they have sold him for less than they paid for ake. Yes there making profit but still so much potential there Brilliant deal for Barca. Was surprised by just how good Torres is. Brilliant game intelligence is the thing that makes him stand out.
lcfc_forever Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 15 minutes ago, dmayne7 said: Brilliant deal for Barca. Was surprised by just how good Torres is. Brilliant game intelligence is the thing that makes him stand out. We tried to sign him from Valencia but lack of European competition seemed to be the challenge. Another good example of our quality scouting.
Dahnsouff Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 Reckon it is a sweetener deal to get Barcelona to back off with Haaland
Tielemans63 Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 1 hour ago, Torten said: Ferran Torres off to Barca then. Man City must be lining up a move for a forward surely? I really think they're making a mistake here, Torres has tonnes of potential. Watching him live during the charity shield, his movement was outstanding. I'm really surprised how little they've used him.
Super_horns Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 3 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said: I really think they're making a mistake here, Torres has tonnes of potential. Watching him live during the charity shield, his movement was outstanding. I'm really surprised how little they've used him. Been injured which hasn’t helped but yes seem to be getting rid quite quickly . And Will Barca pay up ?
RowlattsFox Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 I reckon it's more down to Torres not settling and wanting to go back to Spain. 2
Tielemans63 Posted 22 December 2021 Posted 22 December 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Been injured which hasn’t helped but yes seem to be getting rid quite quickly . And Will Barca pay up ? I think the situation is that they can buy players (another massive loan that they'll never pay back. See also, Madrid, Real) but they have to sell to adhere to fair play rules. It's not right that Barca and Real can't fail when they are constantly bailed out by the big Spanish / Catalonian banks. Edited 22 December 2021 by Tielemans63 3
Matt Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 They’re playing no more games than in any previous seasons. Get over it. 1
Guest Lcfc82 Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 23 minutes ago, Matt said: They’re playing no more games than in any previous seasons. Get over it. Sounds like another attempt from the big boys to get 5 subs bought in and using covid as the excuse. Just get on with it you moaning bastards, if Klopp and Guardiola etc don’t like it then go and manage In a different country.
Matt Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Just now, Lcfc82 said: Sounds like another attempt from the big boys to get 5 subs bought in and using covid as the excuse. Just get on with it you moaning bastards, if Klopp and Guardiola etc don’t like it then go and manage In a different country. Bet Rodgers votes 'Aye' to the 5 subs rules, he use's the system so well....oh, wait. 1
Fox92 Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 18 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said: That bench though contained a number of players in the same position. I didn’t agree with his statement but I could see his point. The scheduling is a mess and has been for a while. The amount of games played in December for everyone is way too much. Tbh I do agree. We could easily lose the game between Boxing Day and New Year's Day.
Matt Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Tbh I do agree. We could easily lose the game between Boxing Day and New Year's Day. Likewise get rid of (atleast) one of the silly international break in one of the first 3 months of the season that frees your game between Boxing Day and NYD up. Personally I like the tradition of the Christmas fixtures, It never seemed to be an issue, spoke about or much made about it years ago when there were smaller squads and less fit players, they embraced it, but if these poor athletes can't handle it and if that's the answer to avoid a winter break then so be it, i'm sick of their whining, welcome to the real world of normal people being tired, working long shifts, not having breaks and on top of that having the added pressure of struggling to make the breadline but having to get on with it. Edited 23 December 2021 by Matt
Fox92 Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 3 minutes ago, Matt said: Likewise get rid of (atleast) one of the silly international break in one of the first 3 months of the season that frees your game between Boxing Day and NYD up. Personally I like the tradition of the Christmas fixtures, It never seemed to be an issue, spoke about or much made about it years ago when there were smaller squads and less fit players, they embraced it, but if these poor athletes can't handle it and if that's the answer to avoid a winter break then so be it, i'm sick of their whining, welcome to the real world of normal people being tired, not having breaks and having to get on with it. Agreed ditch the international breaks as soon as the season starts. Tbh I did raise the point earlier in the thread that it's the big clubs, with the most resources, that always bang on about it and you never hear from small football league clubs who have the same amount of games. But I also think if we were to lose a game then it should be the one in between Boxing Day and New Year's Day. I don't particularly even like Boxing Day football but it's more of a traditional thing. Move the game from the 28th/29th December to earlier in the season and remove an international break. 1
fox_up_north Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 While I don't disagree with losing the game on 28th, they're all multi millionaires and should know how to pace themselves or rotate by now.
Phil Bowman Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Matt said: Likewise get rid of (atleast) one of the silly international break in one of the first 3 months of the season that frees your game between Boxing Day and NYD up. Get rid of all international breaks. They’re a pain in the arse. Play internationals midweek then come back and play the league game on Saturday. Edited 23 December 2021 by Phil Bowman 1 1
Guest ttfn Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 The elephant in the room is that in the last 10-15 years the game has got exponentially faster. Those teams playing at a break-neck speed simply can’t recover between games and play at the same intensity. Liverpool know the rules at the start of the season, they know it’s going to busy. They don’t have to play at 100mph but they choose to because they’re very good at it and it makes them successful. But in so doing they’ve adopted a style of play which they know is compromised by the timings of these fixtures at this time of year. At the end of the day the person primarily responsible for player welfare at Liverpool is Klopp - he could choose to play at a lower intensity to protect his players but he deliberately doesn’t. That’s his choice to prioritise results over welfare - the league is doing nothing it hasn’t done for the last 30+ years. I’ve not got many good words to say about Rodgers but for me the most impressive thing he’s done in his whole time here was the way he managed the injuries and fixture congestion at the start of the 20/21 season. Our pressing and intensity dropped off markedly which started the slow decline of our pressing game but did at least help us stay fresh enough to put a great run of results together.
Matt Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 3 minutes ago, ttfn said: The elephant in the room is that in the last 10-15 years the game has got exponentially faster. Those teams playing at a break-neck speed simply can’t recover between games and play at the same intensity. Liverpool know the rules at the start of the season, they know it’s going to busy. They don’t have to play at 100mph but they choose to because they’re very good at it and it makes them successful. But in so doing they’ve adopted a style of play which they know is compromised by the timings of these fixtures at this time of year. At the end of the day the person primarily responsible for player welfare at Liverpool is Klopp - he could choose to play at a lower intensity to protect his players but he deliberately doesn’t. That’s his choice to prioritise results over welfare - the league is doing nothing it hasn’t done for the last 30+ years. I’ve not got many good words to say about Rodgers but for me the most impressive thing he’s done in his whole time here was the way he managed the injuries and fixture congestion at the start of the 20/21 season. Our pressing and intensity dropped off markedly which started the slow decline of our pressing game but did at least help us stay fresh enough to put a great run of results together. You're joking right? And as for the 2nd halves of every season under him? You're not trying to say playing our slow, insipid game that we play means we can 'save something for later' under him are you? Its certainly not the case for us that we've got exponentially faster in the last few years, far from it, infact we've even started to stop dead on the ball just recently and i'm not sure it's a case of 'saving something for later' either
FoxesTez Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Liverpool v Leeds and Wolves v Watford both off on Boxing Day.
StanSP Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Well look at that, plenty of rest for Klopp's media darlings now. I know the cases are in Leeds' squad, but he can't fvcking moan now can he. He'll give it a good shot though no doubt...
st albans fox Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Just now, StanSP said: Well look at that, plenty of rest for Klopp's media darlings now. I know the cases are in Leeds' squad, but he can't fvcking moan now can he. He'll give it a good shot though no doubt... great - we will have a second team playing a rested liverpool on Tuesday !
RowlattsFox Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Just gets better doesn't it. Id fully back Rodgers playing the under 23s against Liverpool. 2
RowlattsFox Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Was boxing day Salah and Mane last game? Or are they available against us. Klopp will be whinging about that if they've missed the last chance to use them.
Gravel Posted 23 December 2021 Posted 23 December 2021 Klopp will also moan as it's an extra fixture for them to fit into an already packed schedule. Hope there is no change to the current 2 legged Carabao semi schedule to keep his pissy whining levels up.
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