Dialects, Accents and Poverty Stricken.

[09bballer]

38 minutes ago, LestaAl said:

Now that we are past 100 pages with no or little real news I suggest we close the thread and open another one ……..

 

Stadium expansion 2-real news

 

…..and await developments from the club…, hopefully the wait will not be too long.

Stadium expansion 2 - toadally different.

[Vlad the Fox]

Many years ago after a match/concert in birmingham I took a wrong turn off a main road out the city. Within 100 yards I realised I’d made a horrible mistake, we’d drive into an estate, tower blocks, shops glad with metal grills, all the street lights were out, huge bricks and boulders littered the road, no one to be seen, it felt like we’d missed the riot by about twenty minutes. We got to a cross roads and said spin round and get the **** out of here. I was fully expecting a gang to appear from the shadows and attack. The place was post apocalyptic, in all honesty I’ve never seen a place like it in the twenty odd years since.

 

[sishades]

9 hours ago, Vlad the Fox said:

Many years ago after a match/concert in birmingham I took a wrong turn off a main road out the city. Within 100 yards I realised I’d made a horrible mistake, we’d drive into an estate, tower blocks, shops glad with metal grills, all the street lights were out, huge bricks and boulders littered the road, no one to be seen, it felt like we’d missed the riot by about twenty minutes. We got to a cross roads and said spin round and get the **** out of here. I was fully expecting a gang to appear from the shadows and attack. The place was post apocalyptic, in all honesty I’ve never seen a place like it in the twenty odd years since.

 

Have you ever been to Middlesbrough?

[ozleicester]

Lived  and worked in Brum for a little while, i really quite liked it. when i stopped working in the city i did a part time job with the Census which took me to a number of very ...interesting ..parts of town.

But i liked the city. and where we lived, which was not the best by any means, but loved it.

[Parafox]

There's only 2 places in this city that I actually really like: New Walk and Castle Gardens/St Mary's grounds.

[Stoopid]

On 03/06/2021 at 19:22, King of Gipsy Lane said:

Many of the old dears round Northfields and gipsy lane used to say m’duck when I was growing up 

Used to be a ubiquitous (at least in the city) unremarkable part of the Leicester accent. And E Mids generally of course. 

Fallen out of use now - reasons pretty obvious and in line with widespread flattening out of regional accents. 

Kind of surprised by the bemusement and unfamiliarity with it on here though. 

Something to do with the gentrification/wider spread of our support maybe. Find it a bit sad, but it seems the trend to blandness is irreversible. 

[King of Gipsy Lane]

24 minutes ago, Stoopid said:

Used to be a ubiquitous (at least in the city) unremarkable part of the Leicester accent. And E Mids generally of course. 

Fallen out of use now - reasons pretty obvious and in line with widespread flattening out of regional accents. 

Kind of surprised by the bemusement and unfamiliarity with it on here though. 

Something to do with the gentrification/wider spread of our support maybe. Find it a bit sad, but it seems the trend to blandness is irreversible. 

Always makes me feel warm inside when I hear it 

 

blandness is where the world is headed ☹️

[UpTheLeagueFox]

On 03/06/2021 at 11:21, foxile5 said:

Birmingham is the worst city in the Midlands by a mile. Filthy. Horrible people in excess of other places. Largely ugly. Expensive. Villa. 

Absolute rat hole. 

All big cities have the rotten bits I suppose. Go a bit further out and you can find some sweet places, Solihull for example.

[Bellend Sebastian]

I'm married to a Brummie, and whilst she's made Leicester her home, she's rarely needs much prompting to say how shit she thinks it is in comparison to her city of origin.

 

It's like any industrial city - the industrial bits are grim, the high density housing for the workers is grim, the bits where the business owners set up home are lovely. Same as Bristol, Manchester, Sheffield etc etc.

 

The thing with Birmingham is that it's MASSIVE, so if you're not familiar with it and yourself in a good or bad bit it's probably 5 times the size of its Leicester equivalent so you can be forgiven for thinking it's representative of the whole city.

 

Another consideration seems to be that the bigger the city, the greater the extremes - I'd say that the nicer bits of Birmingham are better than Leicester, and the worst bits almost certainly grimmer than anything our fair city can offer

[SemperEadem]

3 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

I'm married to a Brummie, and whilst she's made Leicester her home, she's rarely needs much prompting to say how shit she thinks it is in comparison to her city of origin.

 

It's like any industrial city - the industrial bits are grim, the high density housing for the workers is grim, the bits where the business owners set up home are lovely. Same as Bristol, Manchester, Sheffield etc etc.

 

The thing with Birmingham is that it's MASSIVE, so if you're not familiar with it and yourself in a good or bad bit it's probably 5 times the size of its Leicester equivalent so you can be forgiven for thinking it's representative of the whole city.

 

Another consideration seems to be that the bigger the city, the greater the extremes - I'd say that the nicer bits of Birmingham are better than Leicester, and the worst bits almost certainly grimmer than anything our fair city can offer

Yeah thats one thing that always strikes me about Birmingham is how huge the place is.

[CosbehFox]

On 04/06/2021 at 21:07, BoyJones said:

Between 2002-7 I worked just off the Five Ways Roundabout area, every which way into Birmingham is a dishearteningly rundown. The place is the pits. Parts of Edgbaston / Bourneville try to look nice, but even they’re going downhill. 
 

Then worked next eight years before retirement just north of the Victoria Centre on the Mansfield Road, Nottingham. At least they do have Edwalton, otherwise another depressing place to visit. Leicester has its road issues and obviously some uncared for areas, but at least it feels like a city and is gradually upgrading its infrastructure. 

They really aren’t getting worse. That roundabout you speak of has had three massive developments in the fourteen years since you worked there. 
 

This is two minutes walk away and was yesterday 

 

The Times named Stirchley/Bournville as the best place to live in the Midlands a month ago.   Here’s Rowheath Pavilion last month 

 

 

Harborne just off that Five Ways roundabout is practically about as pricey as you can get inner city non London. 

 

There are some really rough areas in Birmingham like every city but the dismissal many of the place is completely incorrect. This is before I start showing Kings Heath/Moseley, how Longbridge has developed since Rover closed down, Gas Street Basin, Digbeth (if a bit of rough is what you like)

[CosbehFox]

22 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

All big cities have the rotten bits I suppose. Go a bit further out and you can find some sweet places, Solihull for example.

Solihull and Sutton, the former Suburban hot spots are beginning to struggle in their centres because of the retail market going downhill. Both have had Marks & Spencer’s closed down alongside large department stores. Alongside an older living generation, there’s very little ‘happening’ there. 
 

19 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

I'm married to a Brummie, and whilst she's made Leicester her home, she's rarely needs much prompting to say how shit she thinks it is in comparison to her city of origin.

 

It's like any industrial city - the industrial bits are grim, the high density housing for the workers is grim, the bits where the business owners set up home are lovely. Same as Bristol, Manchester, Sheffield etc etc.

 

The thing with Birmingham is that it's MASSIVE, so if you're not familiar with it and yourself in a good or bad bit it's probably 5 times the size of its Leicester equivalent so you can be forgiven for thinking it's representative of the whole city.

 

Another consideration seems to be that the bigger the city, the greater the extremes - I'd say that the nicer bits of Birmingham are better than Leicester, and the worst bits almost certainly grimmer than anything our fair city can offer

exactly that - the city is massive, it’s about 13 miles North to South on the city boundaries. It’s similar to London in that I could drink, socialise or entertain myself in about eight different districts of the city. I don’t think I could say the same for Leicester sadly. 
 

Just a couple of things whilst I’m on the Birmingham tourist board 

 

Here’s where Paradise partly used to sit -

 

Looks superb now the end of New Street (badly requires a facelift) to Broad Street (in the process of). 
 

None of the East Midland cities have anything like this as well - Zumhof Biergarten 

 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Solihull and Sutton, the former Suburban hot spots are beginning to struggle in their centres because of the retail market going downhill. Both have had Marks & Spencer’s closed down alongside large department stores. Alongside an older living generation, there’s very little ‘happening’ there. 

You wait until the world famous 80s night resumes at Slug & Lettuce in Solihull !!  #DJGeoffOnTheDecks

[Finnaldo]

Partially comes down to preference doesn’t it. 
 

I hate the idea in living in ‘megacities’ like London and to a lesser extent Birmingham. Alright in a day trip or two but even though there’s lots going on in several different areas there’s equally usually massive areas of squalor and usually the worst levels of poverty in the country that can be unavoidable if you like to go out and about. If a city is so big it takes 15 minutes via public transport/car I don’t care about living a bit further out in better surroundings and conditions for significantly cheaper and adding 30 minutes to my trip when I do go. 
 

Leicester, for me at least, is a city on the up with plenty going on and just as much on the horizon and as others have said, with upcoming updates to transportation links it could look to upgrade itself massively. It’s already much better than it’s immediate neighbours (Coventry and Derby definitely, Nottinghams a bit more of a level pegging) and more importantly everything you need in town is all within a moderate distance.

[ALC Fox]

On 06/06/2021 at 12:51, UpTheLeagueFox said:

You wait until the world famous 80s night resumes at Slug & Lettuce in Solihull !!  #DJGeoffOnTheDecks

Despite living in and around Leicester for most of my life, strangely I first came across your fine work in Pussycats in Oakengates, Telford.

 

Incidentally, talking of poverty and strange accents, Telford has to be up there as a strong contender for both. The surrounding Shropshire countryside is beautiful though.