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Posted
Just now, foxfanazer said:

I'm 33. They sort of ring a bell but not sure I remember having one 

Imagine the thickest OJ you've ever had.

 

Imagine it twice as thick.

 

Imagine adding a disgusting tasting vodka to it.

 

Then times it by 16.

 

It's still way more disgusting than that.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

Ah, to be about 12 years old again, when you're sick and your mum gets you a proper litre glass bottle of Lucozade while you lie on the sofa under a duvet.

 

Take me back! I can't be the only one?

Me too. Back in my childhood the bottle was covered in orange cellophane. Always felt better when mum brought the Lucozade

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Me too. Back in my childhood the bottle was covered in orange cellophane. Always felt better when mum brought the Lucozade

Once, I was so poorly, my mum fed me a bottle of Lucozade like that and I threw all of it back up into our bathroom bin, which doubled as our sick bucket.

 

It tasted glorious.

 

Turned out I had Salmonella lol

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Posted
4 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

You've probably progressed to drinking creosote now lol

I detest most alchohol these days and barely drink but give me a Reef and I'd down it in seconds.

Posted
Just now, Rain King said:

I detest most alchohol these days and barely drink but give me a Reef and I'd down it in seconds.

Mate, if you can't down a bottle of Smirnoff Ice in under 3 seconds, I don't think we can be friends lol

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Posted
9 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

Mate, if you can't down a bottle of Smirnoff Ice in under 3 seconds, I don't think we can be friends lol

One of the first times I got pissed on holiday I'd spent the night drinking Smirnoff Black Ice. I then woke up in the early hours and proceeded to be sick out of the hotel window.

 

Woke up the next morning and looked out and was horrified to see my disgusting vomit completely covering the towels left out on the balcony below to dry.

 

Horrifies me to think about it even to this day.

 

Anyway, fear I've derailed the topic somewhat.

Posted
Just now, Rain King said:

One of the first times I got pissed on holiday I'd spent the night drinking Smirnoff Black Ice. I then woke up in the early hours and proceeded to be sick out of the hotel window.

 

Woke up the next morning and looked out and was horrified to see my disgusting vomit completely covering the towels left out on the balcony below to dry.

 

Horrifies me to think about it even to this day.

 

Anyway, fear I've derailed the topic somewhat.

OK, we can be friends.

 

Apologies to all for derailing the topic.

 

Hot though innit :blink:

Posted

I've just turned 32 and I remember Reef. Them, VK, Breezers and Archers, all delicious drops by honest local craftspeople.

 

Does anyone remember Metz? Had one of the creepiest adverts your boy has ever seen on TV.

 

Good remembering stuff isn't it

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

I've just turned 32 and I remember Reef. Them, VK, Breezers and Archers, all delicious drops by honest local craftspeople.

 

Does anyone remember Metz? Had one of the creepiest adverts your boy has ever seen on TV.

 

Good remembering stuff isn't it

 

 

 

 

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All readily available to 15 year olds from the life weary Victoria Wine staff. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

I've just turned 32 and I remember Reef. Them, VK, Breezers and Archers, all delicious drops by honest local craftspeople.

 

Does anyone remember Metz? Had one of the creepiest adverts your boy has ever seen on TV.

 

Good remembering stuff isn't it

 

 

 

 

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I remember all of those, but I'm sure Man Utd knocked Metz out of the Champions League group stage? lol

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

All readily available to 15 year olds from the life weary Victoria Wine staff. 

Did you live in Oadby too?

 

You could buy a litre of Whisky with a National Insurance card as ID lol

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Posted
7 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

Did you live in Oadby too?

 

You could buy a litre of Whisky with a National Insurance card as ID lol

Nah Birstall but same policy applied. Flash your Blockbuster card and they'd sell you anything(Asti in my case as I was cool...). 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Nah Birstall but same policy applied. Flash your Blockbuster card and they'd sell you anything(Asti in my case as I was cool...). 

 

I was 15 when my NI card turned up. 

 

I looked about 11.

 

I passed my driving test at 17, police pulled me over constantly wondering why a 12 year old was driving lol

 

I'm 42 now, grey hair, and a beard.

 

If I dyed my hair and had a shave, still think I'd get in the 29 bus from Oadby to town for a half  lol

Posted
8 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Me in my two up two down running a combi boiler for a shower is going to end the world apparently 

Not alone, no. However, that (or, more accurately, the "but I'm fine now" attitude that drives it) done by enough people in the UK and worldwide...yep.

 

And at that point, collective responsibility would be a thing. The warm fog of denial is nice, but I don't think that those who are left would have much time for it, and I wouldn't blame them.

 

 

8 hours ago, adam said:

The UK are doing their bit though. We have reduced our emissions massively. But to get to net zero it is going to cost a fortune. People are struggling now. Imagine what it will be like in a few years.

And it will still cost less than what climate change will do to the UK and everywhere else if we don't. It's up to government to help those people in need while the problem is ongoing, not to abandon the problem entirely and pretend it doesn't exist.

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Oh, and repost an answer about what the UK could/should be doing:

 

- Begin phasing out of any and all coal and oil burning energy generation facilities. No new ones built, those that remain designate for staged decommission. Keep gas-based ones for the time being as they are the best of a poor bunch.

- To compensate for this, immediately begin work on Gen III/IV/fast breeder fission reactors to fill the gap at large grid level and bespoke renewable infrastructure (solar for Aus, tidal/wind etc for other places like the UK) at a smaller level

- Aim to have the above completed within the next 15 years, 20 at the outside

- Seek to make single-person transportation vehicles no longer reliant on the internal combustion engine within the same timeframe. Ditto for cargo shipping vehicles, as much as is possible.

- Overall goal being reducing carbon emissions to cap average global temperature increase at less than 2 degree C overall (compared to 1850) by three decades time. 1.5 would be preferable, but I think that ship has sailed.

- Invest in infrastructure - flood defences, more durable crops and the like - to defend against changes that will come no matter what we do, because there will be some. The UK might well avoid the worst of it - other places won't.

 

Oh, and be ready for potentially tens if not hundreds of millions of people around the world to be rendered homeless and having to migrate because their homes are no longer habitable due to lack of access to food and potable water.

 

Edit: and to forestall an obvious response, yes, these things are happening already. But they're not happening fast enough, global events show that very clearly.

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23 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Oh, and repost an answer about what the UK could/should be doing:

 

- Begin phasing out of any and all coal and oil burning energy generation facilities. No new ones built, those that remain designate for staged decommission. Keep gas-based ones for the time being as they are the best of a poor bunch.

- To compensate for this, immediately begin work on Gen III/IV/fast breeder fission reactors to fill the gap at large grid level and bespoke renewable infrastructure (solar for Aus, tidal/wind etc for other places like the UK) at a smaller level

- Aim to have the above completed within the next 15 years, 20 at the outside

- Seek to make single-person transportation vehicles no longer reliant on the internal combustion engine within the same timeframe. Ditto for cargo shipping vehicles, as much as is possible.

- Overall goal being reducing carbon emissions to cap average global temperature increase at less than 2 degree C overall (compared to 1850) by three decades time. 1.5 would be preferable, but I think that ship has sailed.

- Invest in infrastructure - flood defences, more durable crops and the like - to defend against changes that will come no matter what we do, because there will be some. The UK might well avoid the worst of it - other places won't.

 

Oh, and be ready for potentially tens if not hundreds of millions of people around the world to be rendered homeless and having to migrate because their homes are no longer habitable due to lack of access to food and potable water.

 

Edit: and to forestall an obvious response, yes, these things are happening already. But they're not happening fast enough, global events show that very clearly.

I admire your outlook, I really do.

 

But it's proven that about 100 companies are responsible for 70% of the worlds pollution. 

https://amp.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change

 

Yes that's a few years old, but it still stands.

 

Me, you, everyone on here can recycle as much as they like, but until these organisations do something about it, what's the point?

 

We don't even scratch the surface.

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1 minute ago, tom27111 said:

I admire your outlook, I really do.

 

But it'd proven that about 100 companies are responsible for 70% of the worlds pollution. 

https://amp.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change

 

Yes that's a few years old, but it still stands.

 

Me, you, everyone on here can recycle as much as they like, but until these organisations do something about it, what's the point?

 

We don't even scratch the surface.

And those companies are showing a remarkable lack of foresight too.

 

Allow me to be clear: yes, recycling and engaging in personal gestures to help the environment are good but perhaps will not do enough to solve the overall problem. However, what such individuals can and should do for the sake of change is be prepared to elect political candidates that will then enact the policies above, and also indicate that they are not opposed to those changes if implemented in policy (NIMBYism and the like). Those companies use energy from national, government sponsored grids like everyone else, as well as standardised combustion engine vehicles for deliveries and the like (for the most part), so changing that will reduce their emissions as a matter of course.

 

It is very, very easy to look at it all and think "It's too big, what can one person do?" or even "There's nothing I can do so there's nothing I will do", but that kind of fatalism just becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. There are things people at ground level can do, and I hope enough people actually know and care enough to expend the (brief) time they take to carry them out.

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5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And those companies are showing a remarkable lack of foresight too.

 

Allow me to be clear: yes, recycling and engaging in personal gestures to help the environment are good but perhaps will not do enough to solve the overall problem. However, what such individuals can and should do for the sake of change is be prepared to elect political candidates that will then enact the policies above, and also indicate that they are not opposed to those changes if implemented in policy (NIMBYism and the like). Those companies use energy from national, government sponsored grids like everyone else, as well as standardised combustion engine vehicles for deliveries and the like (for the most part), so changing that will reduce their emissions as a matter of course.

 

It is very, very easy to look at it all and think "It's too big, what can one person do?" or even "There's nothing I can do so there's nothing I will do", but that kind of fatalism just becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. There are things people at ground level can do, and I hope enough people actually know and care enough to expend the (brief) time they take to carry them out.

People are prepared to do that though. A generation have been bought up to do that, but these bug polluting companies are NEVER  going to change.

 

So what's the point? 

 

I recycle, I turn off all my electrical devices that I'm not using...

 

Why? It comes down to corporations. And none of them will do shit 

Posted
25 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

People are prepared to do that though. A generation have been bought up to do that, but these bug polluting companies are NEVER  going to change.

 

So what's the point? 

 

I recycle, I turn off all my electrical devices that I'm not using...

 

Why? It comes down to corporations. And none of them will do shit 

Then elect governments that will take them in hand.

 

Pardon me if this sounds confrontational, but as per previous posts I see the masquerade of "powerlessness" (with whatever reason given for it) being used as an excuse to not push for change too often. It's not acceptable to me because, for reasons I have again illustrated before, it simply isn't true.

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It's the course of the inevitable due to capitalism in all its savage forms. Fear we've gone too far. Hands of man can't save us now, got to come from the heart. 

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