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UK to bake in 33C amid extreme heat warning

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leicsmac

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9 minutes ago, adam said:

1 percent of global emissions I think we produce. 

18th on the list, at around 1% of the total, yes.

 

However, the point regarding "more difference" still stands.

 

"They didn't do it so why should we?" is not an excuse I'd like to be giving to the inhabitants of a vastly changed and reduced world in 50 years time when they (rightly or wrongly) hold us all responsible either.

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adam

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10 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

18th on the list, at around 1% of the total, yes.

 

However, the point regarding "more difference" still stands.

 

"They didn't do it so why should we?" is not an excuse I'd like to be giving to the inhabitants of a vastly changed and reduced world in 50 years time when they (rightly or wrongly) hold us all responsible either.

But seriously. Whatever we do will make no difference. Just cost us all a fortune for nothing. 

Why should we make our lives worse  if the big emitters are doing very little.

Fair enough If they pull their finger out but if not why bother.

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leicsmac

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5 minutes ago, adam said:

But seriously. Whatever we do will make no difference. Just cost us all a fortune for nothing. 

Why should we make our lives worse  if the big emitters are doing very little.

Fair enough If they pull their finger out but if not why bother.

Copied from elsewhere:

 

"the UK, along with everyone else, has to aim for and meet these targets. There's no room for free riders along the established world nations - even ones that contribute so little to the global figure as the UK. This is for two reasons: firstly, even the "small" amount the UK could cont to emit could have a significant effect on global temperatures (unlikely, but possible) and secondly (more importantly) the more one country balks at the idea the more other countries may do so too, with the resultant bad effects.

 

Therefore,  if the UK doesn't do its part, it is highly likely that big trouble will follow.

 

Of course, it may be that the UK does the best it can, other countries don't follow, and the world burns anyway. But if they choose not to take this path, that outcome is much, much more likely.

 

Just as a matter of deductive logic and I dislike the pseudo nihilism being displayed by the argument "well,  what can we do?"

 

I'll add that this kind of short term self-interest  masquerading as pragmatism/defeatism crops up so much more when the problem is a. abstract and non human in influence, and b. over a longer time frame than a few years. It's long past time the old men started thinking of the future and planting trees in whose shade they will never sit. That's not only morally laudable, but also key to the continued existence of human civilisation.

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adam

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7 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Copied from elsewhere:

 

"the UK, along with everyone else, has to aim for and meet these targets. There's no room for free riders along the established world nations - even ones that contribute so little to the global figure as the UK. This is for two reasons: firstly, even the "small" amount the UK could cont to emit could have a significant effect on global temperatures (unlikely, but possible) and secondly (more importantly) the more one country balks at the idea the more other countries may do so too, with the resultant bad effects.

 

Therefore,  if the UK doesn't do its part, it is highly likely that big trouble will follow.

 

Of course, it may be that the UK does the best it can, other countries don't follow, and the world burns anyway. But if they choose not to take this path, that outcome is much, much more likely.

 

Just as a matter of deductive logic and I dislike the pseudo nihilism being displayed by the argument "well,  what can we do?"

 

I'll add that this kind of short term self-interest  masquerading as pragmatism/defeatism crops up so much more when the problem is a. abstract and non human in influence, and b. over a longer time frame than a few years. It's long past time the old men started thinking of the future and planting trees in whose shade they will never sit. That's not only morally laudable, but also key to the continued existence of human civilisation.

The UK are doing their bit though. We have reduced our emissions massively. But to get to net zero it is going to cost a fortune. People are struggling now. Imagine what it will be like in a few years.

adam

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2 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Me in my two up two down running a combi boiler for a shower is going to end the world apparently 

Your a disgrace and should be ashamed. Get shot of that boiler and replace it with a 10k heat pump that won't actually heat your house as good as the boiler you have now. 

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SpacedX

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43 minutes ago, adam said:

Your a disgrace and should be ashamed. Get shot of that boiler and replace it with a 10k heat pump that won't actually heat your house as good as the boiler you have now. 

Do you agree that we should nonetheless be developing these technologies? 

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Kopic

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Was looking forward to going to work today as I work in a refrigerated warehouse. Sat outside before my shift started and got stung by something on my finger. Didn't see what it was but **** me it was agony. Still hurting a lot a few hours later.

adam

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38 minutes ago, Line-X said:

Do you agree that we should nonetheless be developing these technologies? 

I think we should be insulating homes and replacing old gas boilers wirh new efficient gas boilers. 

grobyfox1990

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14 minutes ago, adam said:

The UK are doing their bit though. We have reduced our emissions massively. But to get to net zero it is going to cost a fortune. People are struggling now. Imagine what it will be like in a few years.

Governments should be investing fortunes to upskill their population and upgrade exisiting infrastructure so we can be at the forefront of exporting our skills and services across the world. I've worked abroad before and i want to do so again, not going to happen if our system doesn't encourage and build skills that the world needs.

 

People are struggling now because we have had a succession of leaders who have been warned, but done nothing about, the bleeding obvious, i.e the dangers of relying on a carbonised world. Lets put all our eggs in the basket of oil and russian gas....errrm..... The point you are making here is proving yourself wrong.

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tom27111

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Well, I've just finished work.

 

It was hard today, but the frozen veg certainly did the trick for a couple of hours.

 

I've drank 6 litres of water today and my piss is still telling me I'm not hydrated enough!

 

Think I've sweated out half a stone.

 

Having a well earned pint, then going home for another litre of water and to get in the pool!

 

2 days off now, thankfully. 

 

Stay safe everyone.

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SpacedX

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3 minutes ago, adam said:

I think we should be insulating homes and replacing old gas boilers wirh new efficient gas boilers. 

The former yes - you are seriously suggesting that we continue to burn fossil fuels to heat our homes? There is no 'efficient' way to do this given the global catastrophe that is unfolding. 

 

I've been riding motorcycles for most of my life...I offset, but not sure I can justify this much longer. E-motorbikes are approaching and at that point I'm done...but they can't arrive soon enough. 

 

 

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adam

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22 minutes ago, Line-X said:

The former yes - you are seriously suggesting that we continue to burn fossil fuels to heat our homes? There is no 'efficient' way to do this given the global catastrophe that is unfolding. 

 

I've been riding motorcycles for most of my life...I offset, but not sure I can justify this much longer. E-motorbikes are approaching and at that point I'm done...but they can't arrive soon enough. 

 

 

Your surely not giving up your motorbike because of this!  

SpacedX

SpacedX

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21 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Might just start hurling my excrement into the gutter like the good old days. 

I've started hurling mine at the sun to make hot days go away. 

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FoxesDeb

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1 hour ago, adam said:

But seriously. Whatever we do will make no difference. Just cost us all a fortune for nothing. 

Why should we make our lives worse  if the big emitters are doing very little.

Fair enough If they pull their finger out but if not why bother.

I'm not sure if this is a serious post or not...

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