Football and time wasting

[David Hankey]

I heard someone say the other day that over 90 minutes paying customers actually only see 60 minutes play which I do find hard to believe.

 

If that is the case why don't the footballing authorities adopt a format which is seen in other sports whereby the clock is stopped every time the ball goes out of play where there is obvious time wasting tactics employed in taking free kicks, corner kicks, goal kicks and substitutions? It, therefore, wouldn't matter if a play trudged off the field having been subbed. If players knew the clocked was stopped until play resumed not only would we all see a lot more football but the tactic would serve no useful purpose.

[Fox92]

No way is the ball out of play for 30 minutes.

 

The only thing I hate is when players sit down on the pitch and basically force the game to be stopped. Teams should just play on.

[Koke]

I think it was said the ball is in play for 60 out of the 90 minutes. Maybe as an experiment they could try out that the clock is stopped when the ball is out of play in stoppage time. 

[davieG]

Free kicks near goals take a good bit of time to set up only to see plenty of them hit the wall or sail over the goal.

[David Hankey]

Well we can all makes excuses although we endure it week in, week out. Both managers and players know what they are doing but at the end of the day it is we, the customers, who are being short changed. 

[David Hankey]

33 minutes ago, Koke said:

I think it was said the ball is in play for 60 out of the 90 minutes. Maybe as an experiment they could try out that the clock is stopped when the ball is out of play in stoppage time. 

Thing is there would be no stoppage time as the game would end on 90 minutes of play.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Stop trying to change the game, if you don't like it go and watch American sports 

[Fox92]

8 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Well we can all makes excuses although we endure it week in, week out. Both managers and players know what they are doing but at the end of the day it is we, the customers, who are being short changed. 

Apart from when we're winning and want to waste time..

[David Hankey]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Apart from when we're winning and want to waste time..

I have no problem when the ball is in play and players take it into the corners and shield it etc or pass it back to the goalkeeper from the halfway line on those occasions it is up to the opposition to win the ball back.

[Sharpe's Fox]

19 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

It is we, the customers, who are being short changed. 

nah. Half the reason I pay the money is so I can be in an environment where it is accepatable to shout obscenities at match officials and opposition players for actions that I would be perfectly happy with should it be my clubs players doing it.

[orangecity23]

I can believe that 60 out of 90 stat. If in doubt, recall any instance of us playing a Neil Warnock team in the past. I recall a game vs his Palace team in the Championship  where a good period of 15 mins passed where nothing but a series of throw ins down one touchline occurred. Then Paddy Kenny would waste 45 seconds minimum on each and every goal kick. Then you get to the end and they add on the usual 3 minutes.

[Bayfox]

4 hours ago, Fox92 said:

No way is the ball out of play for 30 minutes.

 

The only thing I hate is when players sit down on the pitch and basically force the game to be stopped. Teams should just play on.

Taken from the 17/18 season.

[Scotch]

5 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Stop trying to change the game, if you don't like it go and watch American sports 

What kind of ridiculous argument is that? 

 

"If you want to watch more of the game you are invested in, stop watching it altogether and go watch another sport".

 

How on earth can you argue against watching a full 90 mins of a game you like as opposed to players feigning injury and slowly sauntering off a field? 

[Bayfox]

6 hours ago, Scotch said:

What kind of ridiculous argument is that? 

 

"If you want to watch more of the game you are invested in, stop watching it altogether and go watch another sport".

 

How on earth can you argue against watching a full 90 mins of a game you like as opposed to players feigning injury and slowly sauntering off a field? 

To ingrained in our culture. Look how many people leave on 80 mins now already.

 

If it takes 90 mins to have 60 mins of play. You are looking at having to spend another 45 mins at the game to get that other 30 mins. 

 

We laugh at American sports. But at least they see the full time of play. But there's no way our fans tolerate a game of football lasting closer to 3 hours when they can't manage 3.till 5 without having to **** off early.

[David Hankey]

12 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Stop trying to change the game, if you don't like it go and watch American sports 

It's not a question of "changing the game" but an attempt to see more of it!! 

 

Rugby League sets a good example. 

 

How strange folk are happy to see players rolling about half dead and feigning injury plus employing other tactics in an effort to run the clock down.

[Silebyfox_89]

13 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Stop trying to change the game, if you don't like it go and watch American sports 

Ridiculous statement to make, i enjoy watching LCFC and i enjoy NFL too both are exciting to watch in different ways.

 

Not the voice of reason.  

[filbertway]

33 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Time wasting (and game management in general) is an art form to be appreciated. 

As someone who enjoys football I find I have completely the opposite opinion  I see it as just another anti-football facet of the game that ruins it as a spectacle for me.

 

While refs allow it to happen though I don't blame teams for milking it as much as they can

[yorkie1999]

It normally averages between 53 and 60 minutes play in the premier league. I think there was talk of stopping the clock and having two 35 minute halves. More actual football for the fans and basically getting rid of ball not in play time wasting, but then Jack Grealish got in the England team.

[Spudulike]

One of worst matches I've ever seen for time wasting was Portsmouth in the early 00's. They went 0-1 up in the first minute (Nugent) and successfully wasted time at every opportunity. The ref fell for it the whole match despite the crowd 'politely' pointing it out. It was clocked afterwards they had wasted 19 minutes by delaying throw-ins, corners, goal kicks, subs etc. 

 

It's the thing that gets me most wound up. Burnley next home league match. Can't wait 

[dsr-burnley]

7 hours ago, David Hankey said:

It's not a question of "changing the game" but an attempt to see more of it!! 

 

Rugby League sets a good example. 

 

How strange folk are happy to see players rolling about half dead and feigning injury plus employing other tactics in an effort to run the clock down.

Rugby League doesn't, by and large, stop the clock when the ball goes out of play.  Only for injuries and other definite stoppages (eg. punch-ups and yellow cards), and also for goal kicking after 1 minute and goal-line dropouts after 40 seconds.

[dsr-burnley]

Two things they could do for time wasting.

 

1.  If a team has a dead ball situation (throw-in, free kick, corner, goal kick, whatever) then as soon as they don't take it in an expeditious manner, the reverse decision goes the other way.  A free kick is reversed, a throw-in goes the other way, a goal kick becomes a corner or vice versa.  Ref's decision as to what is "expeditious", though walking very slowly to the ball could well count, kicking it away from the spot certainly would.  No need for bookings or anything - just reverse the decision.

 

2.  For subs, let the man going off leave the field anywhere he wants, but if he isn't off within 15 seconds of the board going up, then he still has to leave the field but the sub can't come on until the next break in play.  They could even put a litle timner in the electronic sub board.

[fazzyfox]

I remember the Bournemouth game with Mahrez's 97th minute free kick equaliser after they and particularly Begovic had wasted time to the extreme. There had only been a 97th minute because of his antics so great Karma and but I still would have preferred some football in the 2nd half rather than just watching one side be frightened of the ball actually being in play and doing everything they can to avoid it. My (least) favourite ploy is a player landing "injured" off the pitch rolling back on then calling for treatment. And when a goalkeeper catches a cross unchallenged, lands on his feet then lays on the ball on the ground like he's survived some kind of trauma and needs a rest. I know the pitches can be hard but come on.

[The Horse's Mouth]

10 hours ago, David Hankey said:

It's not a question of "changing the game" but an attempt to see more of it!! 

 

Rugby League sets a good example. 

 

How strange folk are happy to see players rolling about half dead and feigning injury plus employing other tactics in an effort to run the clock down.

See that's it "attempt to see more of it", no it's apart of the game as anything else. Suggesting stamping It out indicates to me you've got no understanding of football truly. Leave it the **** alone 

[Fox92]

7 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

It normally averages between 53 and 60 minutes play in the premier league. I think there was talk of stopping the clock and having two 35 minute halves. More actual football for the fans and basically getting rid of ball not in play time wasting, but then Jack Grealish got in the England team.

You seen how many arrive 5 mins in and leave 5 mins before each half? They'll be seeing 25 mins of football because they want to get a pint in concourse.

[David Hankey]

2 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

See that's it "attempt to see more of it", no it's apart of the game as anything else. Suggesting stamping It out indicates to me you've got no understanding of football truly. Leave it the **** alone 

You're absolutely right, I have no understanding of the game having played until I was 40 years of age and followed this Club since 1955!!

 

As for the expletive it's folk like you that football doesn't need, clown.