Summer 2022 priorities (and realistic options)

[Ric Flair]

19 minutes ago, LestaLad said:

HQ has just tweeted it but it got me thinking, I would take another look at Trincao.. Ended the season well at Wolves. Think there’s defo something there, would like us to sign him, Barca just wanna get rid now so he’d be cheap.. Very low risk, high reward deal imo.

It would be a very hopeful punt signing that I'd only consider if we have a disastrous window and can't even afford to strengthen our 1 weak area with the rest of the squad still intact. 

 

 

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

Where is Rodgers and why isn’t he getting deals done? Probably end up with a couple of late panic deals similar to last summer. 

It's not his job, for one 

[Ric Flair]

11 minutes ago, Guest said:

It's not his job, for one 

Thank god for that, although sadly I think he does poke his nose in to it far too much.

[Pliskin]

I think Rodgers has thrown the recruitment team under the bus. We were never in a position to have a refresh…. He’s essentially saved his face if things start to turn sour, because he will have a get out of jail card being “well I said we needed a refresh”…..

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I think Rodgers has thrown the recruitment team under the bus. We were never in a position to have a refresh…. He’s essentially saved his face if things start to turn sour, because he will have a get out of jail card being “well I said we needed a refresh”…..

That would be unlike Rodgers to protect his ego

[Happy Fox]

11 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I think Rodgers has thrown the recruitment team under the bus. We were never in a position to have a refresh…. He’s essentially saved his face if things start to turn sour, because he will have a get out of jail card being “well I said we needed a refresh”…..

And Top has thrown Rodgers under the bus.

[SafewayFox]

8 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

And Top has thrown Rodgers under the bus.

I don’t know who this Bus lad is but gerrimin 😉

 

**can you tell that I’m getting desperate for any signing now - I’d take a new kit lady at this rate.

[Happy Fox]

7 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

I don’t know who this Bus lad is but gerrimin 😉

 

**can you tell that I’m getting desperate for any signing now - I’d take a new kit lady at this rate.

The season starts in 6 weeks time we are rather slow, even Pre-season begins next week, this supposed rebuild seems to be a farce..

 

 @Chocolate Teapot mentioned about the club going for non-playing staff as a priority but that has been very quiet as well.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

The season starts in 6 weeks time we are rather slow, even Pre-season begins next week, this supposed rebuild seems to be a farce..

 

 @Chocolate Teapot mentioned about the club going for non-playing staff as a priority but that has been very quiet as well.

Yeah I'm getting a bit concerned now. More concerned that we can't seem to sell anyone than anything - no space in the squad.

 

I'll be suprised if there's more than 2/3 new faces at this rate.

 

Starting to look like the rebuild line was Rodgers' get out of jail free card when we start the season badly - he can say he's not been backed.

[SafewayFox]

1 minute ago, Happy Fox said:

The season starts in 6 weeks time we are rather slow, even Pre-season begins next week, this supposed rebuild seems to be a farce..

 

 @Chocolate Teapot mentioned about the club going for non-playing staff as a priority but that has been very quiet as well.

I am being converted by many on here that our starting 11 is still pretty strong so the rebuild was always smoke and mirrors surely?

 

I mean it may have turned out differently if Youri and Cags had departed by now but I’m hoping you and @Chocolate Teapot are right about non playing staff as bringing in a set piece coach, hell even a throw in specialist as that’s a thing nowadays isn’t it?

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

14 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

I am being converted by many on here that our starting 11 is still pretty strong so the rebuild was always smoke and mirrors surely?

 

I mean it may have turned out differently if Youri and Cags had departed by now but I’m hoping you and @Chocolate Teapot are right about non playing staff as bringing in a set piece coach, hell even a throw in specialist as that’s a thing nowadays isn’t it?

The only bit I would say is signing players is quite easy when you're throwing 60k plus a week around. Selling players on 60k plus a week is really hard as we're finding.

[Happy Fox]

14 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Yeah I'm getting a bit concerned now. More concerned that we can't seem to sell anyone than anything - no space in the squad.

 

I'll be suprised if there's more than 2/3 new faces at this rate.

 

Starting to look like the rebuild line was Rodgers' get out of jail free card when we start the season badly - he can say he's not been backed.

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the boardroom between Top and the board, maybe they feel Rodgers needs to walk the walk rather than talk the talk, he has been backed and they don’t want to waste anymore money with him at the helm imo.

 

 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Yeah I'm getting a bit concerned now. More concerned that we can't seem to sell anyone than anything - no space in the squad.

 

I'll be suprised if there's more than 2/3 new faces at this rate.

 

Starting to look like the rebuild line was Rodgers' get out of jail free card when we start the season badly - he can say he's not been backed.

Like he set the scene at Liverpool and Celtic.

 

To be honest, I don't think he's said anything wrong in regards to a rebuild. We have yearned to see a large chunk of fringe players or players that don't want to be here gotten rid of to free up the flexibility to then get players I'm when we see fit for 3 summers on the spin but we find it so difficult and we've now hit a brick wall.

 

I don't know what the answer is, I feel like we can afford to lose 8 players and bring only 2-3 in. I'd honestly look at paying some of them off like Hamza, Perez, Bertrand etc.

[Guest Col city fan]

Anyone else getting a little worried that we haven’t got a strong squad and haven’t signed anyone yet?

I guess the positive is we haven’t sold anyone either?!

I know it’s early but seeing a load of other teams strengthening makes me wonder a little…

I’m a big fan of getting the squad sorted out early so they can have a proper pre season together.

🤔

[Ric Flair]

14 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Anyone else getting a little worried that we haven’t got a strong squad and haven’t signed anyone yet?

I guess the positive is we haven’t sold anyone either?!

I know it’s early but seeing a load of other teams strengthening makes me wonder a little…

I’m a big fan of getting the squad sorted out early so they can have a proper pre season together.

🤔

We do already have a strong squad. Next summer is where the chaos begins.

[ARM1968]

Manager and club have said we need a rebuild. The only thing is, unless you buy players rebuilding is, err, difficult. We’ve not exactly shot out of the blocks on this. That suggests we have not had many targets lined up. Could be a long, hot summer. 

[teblin]

The "rebuild" comment may well have been a tactic to motivate the players.

 

We have a good side and squad already when the majority of players are fit. 

 

Not saying we don't need to buy players, but we don't need loads of players.

Edited 24 June 2022 by teblin

[Big_Nige]

Im not concerned we haven’t signed anyone….. yet. We’ll have targets, but transfers are so prolonged and with so many moving parts these days it takes time to get them over line. I don’t think we’ll see a massive overhaul though. Maybe 2 plus Lookman
 

I’m more concerned with outgoings, we have a bloated squad and we need to trim the fat. The deadwood like Vestergaard/Choudhury etc won’t go until the end of the window, they’ll be loan deals at best and no club with half a brain will sanction a loan and pay a % of wages yet. There’s a perceived lack of interest in any of our players that could generate some cash for the transfer kitty. That’s more of an immediate concern, especially if subsequently  Soyuncu and Youri leave for free next year. As a club we shouldn’t be letting that happen but player power is at such a level these days the club just doesn’t hold the cards anymore. And that’s happening to all clubs
 

Ultimately It’s hard to mould your squad for the coming season if you don’t know the make up, and that’s where we are

I also wonder if there is half an eye on our exciting kids coming through. Nelson, Braybrooke and Alves should be all breaking through in the next 12 to 24 months. We don’t want to stop their pathway by gambling on another expensive flop on a long contract and on a wage you can’t then flip out the door

[Shane]

We will struggle to sell any of the players on our transfer list to be honest. Nobody is going to pay a fee + wages for Vestergaard, Bertrand, Choudhury, Praet, Perez, etc. Clubs are probably thinking they can wait a year and sign Soyuncu/Tielemans on a free. Who is going to pay the price we would demand for Iheanacho . I don’t think Ward has played enough for a PL club to consider him as a permanent signing to be 1st choice. The best we can do is ship some of them out on loan.
 

With the lack of funds coming in, we will be on a tight budget.
 

I think the Athletic article was spot on when they said a lot of our incomings will be loan deals. @Ric Flairwe need a list of potential loan players we could bring in! Cole Palmer, etc. 
 

Brendan was also probably serious when he said he will give our returning loanees/youth players a chance to impress in pre season, as it would help save money if they can make the step up.

Edited 24 June 2022 by Shane

[FoxinNotts]

1 hour ago, teblin said:

The "rebuild" comment may well have been a tactic to motivate the players.

 

We have a good side and squad already when the majority of players are fit. 

 

Not saying we don't need to buy players, but we don't need loads of players.

correct

[messerschmitt]

1 hour ago, Col city fan said:

Anyone else getting a little worried that we haven’t got a strong squad and haven’t signed anyone yet?

I guess the positive is we haven’t sold anyone either?!

I know it’s early but seeing a load of other teams strengthening makes me wonder a little…

I’m a big fan of getting the squad sorted out early so they can have a proper pre season together.

🤔

I'm not getting worried.

Sometimes its easy to compare what other teams are doing but are they strengthening or just bringing players in?

I don't know exactly what we invested in our squad last summer but I don't think we improved it much.

[Dames]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Anyone else getting a little worried that we haven’t got a strong squad and haven’t signed anyone yet?

I guess the positive is we haven’t sold anyone either?!

I know it’s early but seeing a load of other teams strengthening makes me wonder a little…

I’m a big fan of getting the squad sorted out early so they can have a proper pre season together.

🤔

I think this is the year the training ground costs really hit us, its the only explanation. I wouldnt be surprised if we have a Spurs style window where we don't sell or buy anyone.

 

I know we always keep our cards close to our chest but the rumours are even more quiet this year than in previous years.

[Nicolo Barella]

Any incoming will depend on outgoings I think. We won't sign de Katelaere unless we sell Iheanacho, a CM will have to wait for Tielemans to leave, no incoming CB unless Soyuncu goes etc. Think it would be quite likely we get a CB and RW on loan. 

 

Not necessarily a bad thing if we can re-sign a couple players like Maddison and Castagne and sell off a few guys like Perez and Choudhury, as long as next summer is busier. It will also mean we'll have a better idea of how guys like Alves, Braybrooke etc  will be able to contribute to our squad by next summer window so we can plan our transfers better according to their development. 

[Ric Flair]

What everyone needs to remember is that whatever happens this summer is nothing compared to what we are faced with next summer. Whether a rebuild that's been promised this season doesn't happen, it absolutely will have to next summer as we have so many players out of contract and many others with only a year left and we are at a crucial period in the short to medium term future of our club.

 

Ideally we'd start the ball rolling this summer because we aren't really a club used to high turnovers of players in recent years and I'd fear we'd be overwhelmed. I think this is the start of a decline I'm afraid, I don't see how we replace Vardy, Schmeichel, Evans, Tielemans, Soyuncu and heaven forbid Maddison and Ndidi too all next summer. All the shit we are desperate to get rid of like Hamza, Perez, Vestergaard, Bertrand, Praet etc I'm not concerned about even though the reality is to replace them will cost us significantly more than we will get for them or what we save in wages.

 

I don't think Rodgers is the man to lead us through this, not unless he can Foster that confidence and momentum he brought us in the first few seasons as its going to take a huge mental strength to lead this club through a chaotic 12-24 months.

[Guest Col city fan]

4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

We do already have a strong squad. Next summer is where the chaos begins.

I don’t think we have a strong squad Ric.

We have a more than able first team, but lose Fofana again and we could be defensively calamitous.

Lose Wilf and Mendy is…..ok

Attacking wise I think we’re ok. 
Fofana is the key to not conceding many goals. If he’s fit and he plays we’ll be ok. Lose him (and Evans too) and we’re fooked in terms of goals conceded.