Wesley Fofana - He is no more - finished - forgotten.

[Foxxed]

Are we going to buy a replacement this window or just wing it? We’re just going to wing it, aren’t we?

[Babylon]

Hilarious that people moan about the club not being able to sign players like Tielemans and Maddison up to long contracts… then can with a straight face demand £100m+ for him. Do people not realise it’s asking huge fees that are partially responsible for this first part?

[An Sionnach]

Just now, The People's Hero said:

Won't share then. 

 

Very very surprised if he stays now; although someone still needs to pay the money; but he and his agent's position has been made extremely clear to the club.

 

Oh, so I did share despite the rudeness.

 

Just passing it on, so easy on the keyboard warrior and posturing stuff, eh? 

 

Still, I was 14 once, too.

Fofana and his agent have no say in this putative transaction. The only person who does is Top. He has Fofana's contract in his hand , if he chooses to cancel and sell it will be his decision alone.

[The People's Hero]

1 minute ago, An Sionnach said:

Fofana and his agent have no say in this putative transaction. The only person who does is Top. He has Fofana's contract in his hand , if he chooses to cancel and sell it will be his decision alone.

We'll see.

 

!Remindme1week.

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Fofana and his agent have no say in this putative transaction. The only person who does is Top. He has Fofana's contract in his hand , if he chooses to cancel and sell it will be his decision alone.

Of course  they do, not only say, but a say

[4everfox]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Of course  they do, not only say, but a say

A say we can choose to ignore if we desire, and there's nothing Fofana can do about it besides sabotage his own career. 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, 4everfox said:

A say we can choose to ignore if we desire, and there's nothing Fofana can do about it besides sabotage his own career. 

Yes and warn off other prospects of signing for us, as won’t let them move on to a top club

[An Sionnach]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Of course  they do, not only say, but a say

No they don't at least not legally and the old chestnut of deliberately underperforming to push a transfer won't apply here. Fofana likes to play and win , hence his response yesterday.

[The People's Hero]

I'm not sure how someone can simultaneously be intelligent enough to correctly use 'putative' but also be so naive.

 

Its a position of ignorance I envy.

 

Anyway; I'm off out. I shan't share if I hear anything else since it seems to have rustled jimmies/rattled cages/agitated egos.

Edited 8 August 2022 by The People's Hero

[Molson Canadian]

14 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

You have to laugh in the match day thread when someone puts “Amartey playing really well” then someone replies “”he usually does”, literally minutes before their first goal. That wasn’t you was it? 😂

no not me.  

[An Sionnach]

Just now, The People's Hero said:

I'm not sure how someone can simultaneously be intelligent enough to correctly use 'putative' but also be so naive.

 

Its a position of ignorance I envy.

Thank you for that ,it is as they say pure bliss.

[Foxxed]

It better be more 85 mil or more. There’s got to be only a handful of clubs who can afford that if it’s not Chelsea. I guess then we’ll have the money to pay off our greatest manager ever should disappointing, uncontrollable and unfair events conspire him undone.

[Paninistickers]

19 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

Won't share then. 

 

Very very surprised if he stays now; although someone still needs to pay the money; but he and his agent's position has been made extremely clear to the club.

 

Oh, so I did share despite the rudeness.

 

Just passing it on, so easy on the keyboard warrior and posturing stuff, eh? 

 

Still, I was 14 once, too.

Taint news tho, is it?  I could've told you his and his agent's position - and I know nada

[Bordersfox]

10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yes and warn off other prospects of signing for us, as won’t let them move on to a top club

I don't think so.  I've thought about this myself and it's perfectly reasonable in these circumstances for us to tell Fofana he's going nowhere for another year.  

 

He signed a nice new deal for five years after a very serious injury.  He's not got any right to throw his toys out of the pram at this stage. 

 

If we were another season down the line my view might differ.  

 

Any prospect put off by us asking for another season out of him has an attitude/outlook that frankly we shouldn't be welcoming at the club.  

 

Which is why if we sell it must be on our terms and our terms alone. 

 

As an aside and unrelated to the first point (because I'm lazy) the Colwill thing is weird.  If they're that desperate for Fofana why remove that bargaining chip, I can't quite get my head around that?

Edited 8 August 2022 by Bordersfox

[4everfox]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yes and warn off other prospects of signing for us, as won’t let them move on to a top club

If Tottenham can do it with their star players so can we

[AjcW]

8 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

I'm not sure how someone can simultaneously be intelligent enough to correctly use 'putative' but also be so naive.

 

Its a position of ignorance I envy.

 

Anyway; I'm off out. I shan't share if I hear anything else since it seems to have rustled jimmies/rattled cages/agitated egos.

I'd like to refer you to me calling you one of our Four Horsemen!!! Let the love outweight the idiots....  

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, 4everfox said:

If Tottenham can do it with their star players so can we

No we can’t

[Leicester_Loyal]

10 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

I'm not sure how someone can simultaneously be intelligent enough to correctly use 'putative' but also be so naive.

 

Its a position of ignorance I envy.

 

Anyway; I'm off out. I shan't share if I hear anything else since it seems to have rustled jimmies/rattled cages/agitated egos.

I dunno why people get so aggy with information being shared, nor why people sharing the information get aggy when people call them out on it, it's always going to happen, just one of those things mate. Cheers for the update.

[Tielemans63]

21 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

Not heard anything about Mings. My source on this is nothing directly to do with Leicester. And I wouldn't get too hung up on Chelsea.

Does M'Bappe want to sign him for PSG then?

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

I don't think so.  I've thought about this myself and it's perfectly reasonable in these circumstances for us to tell Fofana he's going nowhere for another year.  

 

He signed a nice new deal for five years after a very serious injury.  He's not got any right to throw his toys out of the pram at this stage. 

 

If we were another season down the line my view might differ.  

 

Any prospect put off by us asking for another season out of him has an attitude/outlook that frankly we shouldn't be welcoming at the club.  

 

Which is why if we sell it must be on our terms and our terms alone. 

 

As an aside and unrelated to the first point (because I'm lazy) the Colwill thing is weird.  If they're that desperate for Fofana why remove that bargaining chip, I can't quite get my head around that?

Perhaps, especially if the leave date was discussed. However, we could also have agreed a price which at which he could leave, and it is being approached. 

[adejo92]

8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yes and warn off other prospects of signing for us, as won’t let them move on to a top club

Very good point.

 

You look at Mahrez, Chilwell, Maguire, Kante & Drinkwater.

 

All players we have given a spotlight to thus resulting in a move to a 'Bigger Club'. You could easily add Tielemans &  Fofana to that list as although they are still here, they have been given the spotlight to attract bigger clubs.

 

We'll never compete with some teams and we'll only ever be a good stepping stone for the 'stars' that we attract. 

 

We are a bit like a better Southampton.  They were always pillaged for their best players.

 

It's inevitable certain players will leave but like you say, it's important we maintain a reputation whereby we don't trap players. Don't want this to turn Mahrez 'esque'

[Babylon]

15 minutes ago, 4everfox said:

A say we can choose to ignore if we desire, and there's nothing Fofana can do about it besides sabotage his own career. 

And we sabotage his future value. If players kick up a stink, they are gone. Now or next summer, gone. The question is whether you want a sulking git hanging about who could work to lower his own value. 

[4everfox]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

No we can’t

Harry Kane has won absolutely nothing, but he's not allowed to leave and it doesn't put players off signing for them. So yes, actually, we can. 

[Bordersfox]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Perhaps, especially if the leave date was discussed. However, we could also have agreed a price which at which he could leave, and it is being approached. 

And if that's something the club agreed (for this season, rather than next summer) than I don't have an issue with selling him for that figure.  

 

Well, I do, because frankly the thought of another season with Evans injured and Soyuncu and Amartey at the back terrifies me.  But as a club we could not renege on that without reputational damage I agree. 

[Paninistickers]

3 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

It better be more 85 mil or more. There’s got to be only a handful of clubs who can afford that if it’s not Chelsea. I guess then we’ll have the money to pay off our greatest manager ever should disappointing, uncontrollable and unfair events conspire him undone.

We won't have to  (fully) pay off Rodgers if we sell his team from underneath him. He'd have no alternative but to walk. His position becomes untenable the moment his squad is ripped to shreds. A negotiated settlement is the only way out.

 

(I know Rodgers leaving will delight some fans but it would surely eventually mean the end of the king power era, who will need to relinquish their stake in the club)