Wolves 2-1 LCFC - Post Match Thread

[CrispinLA in Texas]

We were so unlucky not to win, thought we bossed the game particularly in the second half. 

Lookman and Tielemans was class, Wolves couldn't cope with our midfield.

Really enjoyed watching are passing and only chance Wolves got was to have the odd counterattack.

Their goal was smash and grab longe range chances.

They got the rub of the green yesterday but we were great to watch.

If we continue to play like we played yesterday our luck is bound to change, the VAR ref yesterday was against Leicester.... obviously corrupt

Edited 21 February 2022 by CrispinLA in Texas

[jmono84]

7 hours ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Yes it was close range though but seen them given 

The guys hand basically saved Riccy P’s rocket. Stone wall handball in todays game.

[ozleicester]

19 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Annoying this lack of consistency 

Its almost as though VAR has served no purpose in eradicating mistakes

[The Bear]

Looks like it was the ref's decision not VAR:

 

 

 

 

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Looks like it was the ref's decision not VAR:

 

 

 

 

The var will always have an opinion on any laws being broken when a goal has been scored  - if it’s different to the ref’s and they believe the ref has made a clear error then they will alert him to this.  as the tweet above states, the distance between Jimenez and kasper is v relevant (Barnes way closer at brighton) and the shot passes the player rather than him having to jump out of the way.  You simply cannot be chalking off goals like that. 
 

had the lino stuck his flag up then it could have been interesting because they would then have to argue that it’s a clear error to flag offside and I’m not convinced that they could do that. Afaik, linos are told not to flag where there is a sig distance between keeper and player and the player hasn’t jumped out of the way of the shot. 

[filbertway]

34 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

The var will always have an opinion on any laws being broken when a goal has been scored  - if it’s different to the ref’s and they believe the ref has made a clear error then they will alert him to this.  as the tweet above states, the distance between Jimenez and kasper is v relevant (Barnes way closer at brighton) and the shot passes the player rather than him having to jump out of the way.  You simply cannot be chalking off goals like that. 
 

had the lino stuck his flag up then it could have been interesting because they would then have to argue that it’s a clear error to flag offside and I’m not convinced that they could do that. Afaik, linos are told not to flag where there is a sig distance between keeper and player and the player hasn’t jumped out of the way of the shot. 

And thus it's very important that people who actually understand the game from a playing perspective are refereeing the game.

 

Kasper does not see that ball until it's too late and the sole reason is that Jiminez is in the way, you can see he doesn't begin to move/dive for the shot until the ball is visible. It's reduce his chance of saving the shot. He was effected much, much more than he was when Norwich had one disallowed against us.

 

 

 

[sacreblueits442]

17 hours ago, filbertway said:

I did think they got away with one on that backpass.

 

Neither a pen in a million years though

 

....the Ricardo shot is a penalty because of handball!!!

The defenders silhouette is made greater by his arm outstretched in front of him. As soon as the ball hits his hands he pulls it away, defenders now defend and have their arms behind their back, it becomes part of their silhouette and negates a deliberate handball.

[filbertway]

3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....the Ricardo shot is a penalty because of handball!!!

The defenders silhouette is made greater by his arm outstretched in front of him. As soon as the ball hits his hands he pulls it away, defenders now defend and have their arms behind their back, it becomes part of their silhouette and negates a deliberate handball.

Disagree personally, it was a natural movement and thus part of an expected natural silouette.

[splinterdream]

On 21/02/2022 at 14:51, enmac said:

Didn't he play LB against Randers? 

He played on the right wing, Ricardo played full back 

[enmac]

4 hours ago, splinterdream said:

He played on the right wing, Ricardo played full back 

LB:

https://www.fotmob.com/match/3780902/lineup/leicester-city-vs-randers-fc

[ScrumpyJack]

Absolute disbelief no-one has ran a story on the handball, if it happened to Arse, Chelski etc. it’s all we’d be bloody hearing about. Barely any mention of the blatant Wolves pass back either!

[ScrumpyJack]

14 hours ago, splinterdream said:

He played on the right wing, Ricardo played full back 

Albrighton was at leftback, his slip lead to the Randers goal.

[AKCJ]

22 hours ago, The Bear said:

Looks like it was the ref's decision not VAR:

 

 

 

 

So after the linesman and the referee failed to do their job properly which directly resulted in a goal, VAR decided to go with their decision? VAR have looked at that, with all the slow motion and all the camera angles in the world and still decided it was right for that to be allowed to stand.

 

Can anyone explain the point in putting weight behind on field decisions? What's the tipping point?

 

Wolves have benefitted from an offside player obscuring the vision of the goalkeeper. The fact that there is "precedent" isn't something to back up the referee. To me that just shows incompetence and the fact that the referees/VAR can interpret the rules as they see fit. He's in line with the shot, he's stood in an offside position... he should have been given offside.

 

Edited 23 February 2022 by AKCJ

[gerblod]

On 21/02/2022 at 17:32, Sgt_Crapgame said:

Thought it was obvious what I meant! Someone who can put the ball in the right place from a dead ball situation and over the first defenders head! Good headers of the ball are not always giants!!!! 

I pointed out to you the inherent barriers/challenges dead ball kicks have. If you don't understand the issues involved then you're not getting it, not me. You're stating that neither Madders nor Tielemans can provide a decent cross (or KDH or Albrighton for that matter). I'm stating that it's statistically unlikely to get goal from dead ball situations - however good you are (and Madders is exceptionally good).

I think goals from corners are below 1% fruition. You're being mislead by your own wishful thinking.

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

So after the linesman and the referee failed to do their job properly which directly resulted in a goal, VAR decided to go with their decision? VAR have looked at that, with all the slow motion and all the camera angles in the world and still decided it was right for that to be allowed to stand.

 

Can anyone explain the point in putting weight behind on field decisions? What's the tipping point?

 

Wolves have benefitted from an offside player obscuring the vision of the goalkeeper. The fact that there is "precedent" isn't something to back up the referee. To me that just shows incompetence and the fact that the referees/VAR can interpret the rules as they see fit. He's in line with the shot, he's stood in an offside position... he should have been given offside.

 

Yep, it completely renders VAR unfit. If it doesn't fit the clear and obvious error then I don't know what does.

[gerblod]

2 hours ago, ScrumpyJack said:

 Barely any mention of the blatant Wolves pass back either!

Glad you saw it too. I wondered what I'd missed that the ref. had picked up on. Bizarre.

[An Sionnach]

4 minutes ago, gerblod said:

think goals from corners are below 1% fruition. You're being mislead by your own wishful thinking.

Yet why do idiot commentators get excited when a team gets a corner? The days of Tommy Lawton are long gone. In fact what is the advantage of a corner at all?.

[splinterdream]

17 hours ago, enmac said:

LB:

https://www.fotmob.com/match/3780902/lineup/leicester-city-vs-randers-fc

Oh okay, must have got mixed up with wolves game, blokes a unit, still he's playing full back rather than a wing back, just think it'd be asking a lot

[splinterdream]

8 hours ago, ScrumpyJack said:

Albrighton was at leftback, his slip lead to the Randers goal.

Yes of course, I remember now

[gerblod]

11 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

 

 

11 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

Yet why do idiot commentators get excited when a team gets a corner? The days of Tommy Lawton are long gone. In fact what is the advantage of a corner at all?.

I've been thinking the same about throw-ins. The advantage is with the team NOT taking it. And yet hands go up appealing to get the privilege. Maybe there should be an eight-metre cordon for the taker to allow some space to get the ball in play.

I think corners just pep up the crowd's hopes and the commentators play on that. But it's largely Expectation followed by Desperation - like the reverse of Fry's Five Boys.

Tommy Lawton, Dixie Dean, Nat Lofthouse and Tommy Smith - those were the days - yet Hungary burst that bubble in 53/54.

There's a story about Dixie Dean leading England out at a pre-war friendly in Berlin. The match ball was on the spot waiting for kick-off. Dean was carrying an English ball and promptly set it down, picked up the German ball and booted it out of the stadium. 

Obviously Dean thought the English were the master race .

 

Edited 23 February 2022 by gerblod
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