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[goose2010]

Just now, JamieG said:

The atmosphere in English football was lost when it went PG, I don't think it can be saved now. 

There's no back and forth between home and away fans anymore it's just completely gone. 

Need to ban phones. The amount of people that just sit on them during the game is ridiculous. Lad 3 seats down from me was streaming the man utd game in the first half! He was moaning it was buffering!! 

[Lako42]

3 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

Need to ban phones. The amount of people that just sit on them during the game is ridiculous. Lad 3 seats down from me was streaming the man utd game in the first half! He was moaning it was buffering!! 

Did you tell him he's a complete tosser? 

 

Because he is 

[smudger63]

32 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

Ohh really? Find that quite surprising considering what I was told by the club when I went down to move my ST seat.

Yes really. Just go to the union fs twitter if you don't believe me, they announced how many spare seats were going to be available for games on there, i think they did on here too, i seem to remember.. Without being arsed to go back and look i think it was 20 per cent but i am happy to be corrected. 

Edited 7 August 2022 by smudger63

[goose2010]

2 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Did you tell him he's a complete tosser? 

 

Because he is 

Was off his head mate, like he usually is. But you know each to their own. 

[smudger63]

12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

You've mentioned the Kop at Filbert St was a great atmosphere, why was it? Because it was 90% full of pissed up blokes who if you studied would observe that pissed up people are spontaneous and also won't shut up hahahaa. 

 

What's the alternative though? You won't get a section of 5-10k that are all that demographic any longer, something does need to be forced otherwise left to our own devices, we end up with what we serve up week in, week out and its terrible.

It's not terrible week in week out though is it . Alot depends on what the games like, how we are playing, whether the ref is pissing us off, etc. It's how it has always been. I've never said that the kop at filbert  Street was always a great atmosphere. I said it could be, but much like in today's world of football,  it depended on what was going on in the game we were watching, regardless of how pissed up we may have been.  Nothing has really changed, the atmosphere at  matches are something that evolve naturally. If the game is crap, or we are getting a bit of a stuffing, then the atmosphere will naturally be flat, unless we are calling for the managers head, in which case the atmosphere is naturally toxic  

[Incognito]

During a lull in the second half, I could hear the singing section from where I am in L1.

 

Fair play to those involved.

 

My biggest gripe with the Union FS is their branding - hate the US Army Corps 1970 style font they use

[grobyfox1990]

The impatience in the world today is maddeningly baffling. Some mobile tickets don’t work = it’s a disaster. Singing section doesnt win a Grammy = it’s a disaster. Granted it’s a minority that think like this but wow, life must be a struggle to get through with such an attitude 

[And Joachim goes throoough]

Most of the people moaning about the atmosphere contribute nothing. Spectators not fans! At least the singing section are trying to generate some kind of atmosphere 

[iancognito]

4 hours ago, smudger63 said:

Next thing you will be having someone with a megaphone trying to get things going, like the Americans. I just don't agree that a crowd needs orchestrating. Football is about spontaneity, responding to what's in front of you. Trying to orchestrate a crowd is as embarrassing as the prawn sandwich lot that go to football, all be it in an opposite way. 

I'd have rid of the drum and that's it. No-one at all has mentioned megaphones or any other type of orchestration, just like-minded people in one area. Take your anti-American hat off and look round the nuttier atmospheres around Europe, a lot of blokes with microphones and shinning up poles to get something going, it doesn't happen in the UK because I doubt they'd allow it. Most clubs don't need it because a fair number are trying to join in anyway. Not us because what used to be the Kop is mostly full of people sitting on hands and waiting for a free half time t-shirt.

Say what you like Smudger but without this sort of effort, today would have been silent bar a few murmurings at corners and goal attempts. The atmosphere is getting worse year on year, and I'll support anyone that tries to give it a kick start.

[smudger63]

5 hours ago, iancognito said:

I'd have rid of the drum and that's it. No-one at all has mentioned megaphones or any other type of orchestration, just like-minded people in one area. Take your anti-American hat off and look round the nuttier atmospheres around Europe, a lot of blokes with microphones and shinning up poles to get something going, it doesn't happen in the UK because I doubt they'd allow it. Most clubs don't need it because a fair number are trying to join in anyway. Not us because what used to be the Kop is mostly full of people sitting on hands and waiting for a free half time t-shirt.

Say what you like Smudger but without this sort of effort, today would have been silent bar a few murmurings at corners and goal attempts. The atmosphere is getting worse year on year, and I'll support anyone that tries to give it a kick start.

The fans at yesterdays game would in  general have been  the same fan as at games in our title winning season, when we were being praised as having one of the best atmospheres in the country, but obviously we were winning, the brand of football for most of that season was fast counter attack that was exciting to watch, and of course we were riding the crest of a wave, which had us top of the league. It was the same fans who were at the Seville game in the champions league, possibly the best atmosphere i can remember being in, certainly since we left filbert street. They were the same fans who were at the Liverpool home game last season, when the atmosphere was fantastic.. What I'm saying is, that the atmospheres evolve from what's going on on the pitch. It has always been like that, and always will be. Its not a leicester thing  its a football thing. If fans are excited and engaged in the game, they will become more involved and the atmosphere will be better. The atmospheres are there, we have had them plenty of times before, but like anywhere else, they will evolve from what fans are watching. The  singing section can sing all game but it won't affect the atmosphere within the whole ground. It just won't.  The singing section yesterday was no  different to last season, except they weren't spread across the back, they were in one block going downwards, which makes them more visible. Kudos to them for wanting to sing all game, but football has never been the all singing all dancing utopia that they crave, and never will be.  I'm sorry it just won't.

[Voll Blau]

8 hours ago, promised land said:

Only love the boys in blue is a good one, it got one run through today as I recall, 30 seconds of it, When you're smiling, never heard it albeit the Jersey Budd at kick off and When you're tired and weary, when was the last time we sang that? 

 

Songs we all know, not songs someone has just posted up on a sing song thread linked to Gerry whoever. 

 

When you're tired and weary must have been sung three or four times yesterday, WYS a similar number of times.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, smudger63 said:

The fans at yesterdays game would in  general have been  the same fan as at games in our title winning season, when we were being praised as having one of the best atmospheres in the country, but obviously we were winning, the brand of football for most of that season was fast counter attack that was exciting to watch, and of course we were riding the crest of a wave, which had us top of the league. It was the same fans who were at the Seville game in the champions league, possibly the best atmosphere i can remember being in, certainly since we left filbert street. They were the same fans who were at the Liverpool home game last season, when the atmosphere was fantastic.. What I'm saying is, that the atmospheres evolve from what's going on on the pitch. It has always been like that, and always will be. Its not a leicester thing  its a football thing. If fans are excited and engaged in the game, they will become more involved and the atmosphere will be better. The atmospheres are there, we have had them plenty of times before, but like anywhere else, they will evolve from what fans are watching. The  singing section can sing all game but it won't affect the atmosphere within the whole ground. It just won't.  The singing section yesterday was no  different to last season, except they weren't spread across the back, they were in one block going downwards, which makes them more visible. Kudos to them for wanting to sing all game, but football has never been the all singing all dancing utopia that they crave, and never will be.  I'm sorry it just won't.

If you're going to get this worked up every fortnight it's going to be a long season for you. 

 

Probably best to live and let live and just ignore it, it's much easier that way. Typing out all this on FT won't change anything.

[AllGoneTitsSchlupp]

11 hours ago, Permafrost said:

And?

and, he’s saying it isn’t working after one game, on a sunday, against brentford. the atmosphere was clearly better today and when the team did their usual, it went flat. it will improve, like i said..it’s the first one in the league 

[KrefelderFox666]

11 hours ago, smudger63 said:

Jesus, we have had some great atmospheres at the walkers and now king power. Even when we were getting 20 odd thousand in the championship we had some great atmospheres. The Middlesbrough game when it snowed and only 8000 got there, was a fantastic atmosphere that night. We didn't need a singing section it happened naturally. Not every game has a great atmosphere at any club. I've been to Anfield, supposedly renowned for its atmosphere,  more times than I care to remember, and some of those games, the only time you heard a peep out of Liverpool fans was ynwa at the  start of the game. Look, they've got what they wanted now, they have their singing section, and more prominence for the TV cameras, so good luck to them, but if they think it's going to change anything in regards to atmospheres being created in any way but naturally than sadly I think they will be disappointed.

 

But the problem is, there is a great atmosphere in about 2 or 3 games a season. The other 15-20 odd games are bland and flat. That is where the singing section is important to get things going. We all know that if we are flying on the pitch that an atmosphere would naturally build but that's not happening any time soon and hasn't been the case for years. Maybe a short spell (half a season) when Rodgers first took over.

 

You mentioned the title winning season and Seville as some good examples. Those were high profile games where if there was no atmosphere in those, you may as well play in empty grounds. You can't just turn up when life is good, you have to also slog it out when the going is tough.

 

If people go to the football to watch a game and do nothing (like a theatre almost) then that is absolutely fine. However, they cannot moan about a flat atmosphere as they personally don't do anything to counter it. If people do want to create a good atmosphere, they have to pull their fingers out and show it and in the process, take their mates and those nearest with them. This is what the singing section aims to do but it needs to travel into surrounding areas and people need to join in. Again, if they don't want to, fair enough but once again, don't then moan about a bad atmosphere or how bad the singing section was or how the singing section didn't fill the whole ground with deafening noise.

 

If the performance on the pitch is flat, then raise it in the stands and the players will follow. Atmosphere and performance is a two way street. The atmosphere should not only be created from a ripping performance, there must also be an atmosphere to up the performance.

[smudger63]

7 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

If you're going to get this worked up every fortnight it's going to be a long season for you. 

 

Probably best to live and let live and just ignore it, it's much easier that way. Typing out all this on FT won't 

 I have far more worrying things going on in my life to get worked up about to be honest. I just have an opinion and this forum gives me a chance to air it.  Not everyone is going to agree with my opinions, but just as it doesn't make me right, it doesn't make me wrong either.  They are just opinions. 

[Ginger_Filbert]

Heard it from L1 a couple of times which I’m not sure I ever have before so it must definitely have been better. 
 

Looked like everyone in there was enjoying it and there was a lot more people able to stand which normally wouldn’t. 
 

How you can come on here and slag them off shows more about yourself than the group live and let live, if it’s not for you that’s fine you don’t have to get involved. 
 

What’s the thing of everyone wearing black T-shirts all about? Does it have a meaning?

[smudger63]

6 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

But the problem is, there is a great atmosphere in about 2 or 3 games a season. The other 15-20 odd games are bland and flat. That is where the singing section is important to get things going. We all know that if we are flying on the pitch that an atmosphere would naturally build but that's not happening any time soon and hasn't been the case for years. Maybe a short spell (half a season) when Rodgers first took over.

 

You mentioned the title winning season and Seville as some good examples. Those were high profile games where if there was no atmosphere in those, you may as well play in empty grounds. You can't just turn up when life is good, you have to also slog it out when the going is tough.

 

If people go to the football to watch a game and do nothing (like a theatre almost) then that is absolutely fine. However, they cannot moan about a flat atmosphere as they personally don't do anything to counter it. If people do want to create a good atmosphere, they have to pull their fingers out and show it and in the process, take their mates and those nearest with them. This is what the singing section aims to do but it needs to travel into surrounding areas and people need to join in. Again, if they don't want to, fair enough but once again, don't then moan about a bad atmosphere or how bad the singing section was or how the singing section didn't fill the whole ground with deafening noise.

 

If the performance on the pitch is flat, then raise it in the stands and the players will follow. Atmosphere and performance is a two way street. The atmosphere should not only be created from a ripping performance, there must also be an atmosphere to up the performance.

The performance and atmosphere are linked though, they always have been.  I do get what you mean, and I know what you are hoping to do is improve the atmosphere, and it is commendable, but I feel its a utopia view which I don't think will be achieved.  In a way, it may have been better to have had the singing section next to L1, it  would have inceased the numbers of like minded in that area, and given a much needed spark to L1 which I think it has needed in recent times.  The main thing is that you enjoy doing your thing down the football, and that's what you are doing, so fair play to you for that.

[SemperEadem]

8 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Heard it from L1 a couple of times which I’m not sure I ever have before so it must definitely have been better. 
 

Looked like everyone in there was enjoying it and there was a lot more people able to stand which normally wouldn’t. 
 

How you can come on here and slag them off shows more about yourself than the group live and let live, if it’s not for you that’s fine you don’t have to get involved. 
 

What’s the thing of everyone wearing black T-shirts all about? Does it have a meaning?

Wasn’t a thing at all. Not sure if you have seen any photos but clearly all sorts of coloured shirts are being worn. 

[Ginger_Filbert]

1 minute ago, SemperEadem said:

Wasn’t a thing at all. Not sure if you have seen any photos but clearly all sorts of coloured shirts are being worn. 

Yeah I know in general they were but the first few rows were the majority wearing black T-shirts. 
 

Couldn’t see what’s on them from L1 so wondering if it’s a uniform or something?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

20 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

 I have far more worrying things going on in my life to get worked up about to be honest. I just have an opinion and this forum gives me a chance to air it.  Not everyone is going to agree with my opinions, but just as it doesn't make me right, it doesn't make me wrong either.  They are just opinions. 

I'm sure you do but you don't half go on about it on here.

[SemperEadem]

3 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Yeah I know in general they were but the first few rows were the majority wearing black T-shirts. 
 

Couldn’t see what’s on them from L1 so wondering if it’s a uniform or something?

Nah not at all. A Bochum lad was over so a few perhaps chose to wear the navy friendship shirt that was done a few years back.

 

Drummer was in a lovely black sash number with Nalis on the back.

[Lcfcwigstonblue]

I sit in P2 in the family stand and could definitely hear the singing section until Brentford scored.

it then went totally flat.

[PAPA LAZAROU]

2 hours ago, smudger63 said:

The fans at yesterdays game would in  general have been  the same fan as at games in our title winning season, when we were being praised as having one of the best atmospheres in the country, but obviously we were winning, the brand of football for most of that season was fast counter attack that was exciting to watch, and of course we were riding the crest of a wave, which had us top of the league. It was the same fans who were at the Seville game in the champions league, possibly the best atmosphere i can remember being in, certainly since we left filbert street. They were the same fans who were at the Liverpool home game last season, when the atmosphere was fantastic.. What I'm saying is, that the atmospheres evolve from what's going on on the pitch. It has always been like that, and always will be. Its not a leicester thing  its a football thing. If fans are excited and engaged in the game, they will become more involved and the atmosphere will be better. The atmospheres are there, we have had them plenty of times before, but like anywhere else, they will evolve from what fans are watching. The  singing section can sing all game but it won't affect the atmosphere within the whole ground. It just won't.  The singing section yesterday was no  different to last season, except they weren't spread across the back, they were in one block going downwards, which makes them more visible. Kudos to them for wanting to sing all game, but football has never been the all singing all dancing utopia that they crave, and never will be.  I'm sorry it just won't.

Spot on. Tippy Tappy football gets you a Tippy Tappy atmosphere. Yesterday for instance when their inevitable first goal went in everyone knew what was going to happen and that they would equalise ,and pop it went quiet as a mouse. Feed the crowd proper attacking football and you will get what we had in the title-winning season. We know it's there but having to watch time and time again Rogers's inept handling and bizarre sub killed any atmosphere stone dead.

[smudger63]

35 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I'm sure you do but you don't half go on about it on here.

Is that not allowed then? Do I have to bow down to you and your thoughts and opinions?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

7 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Is that not allowed then? Do I have to bow down to you and your thoughts and opinions?

Not at all but you just repeat yourself over and over. You don't think it'll ever work, fine, maybe just leave it then.