Plastik Man Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: Are you guys insane? If we get money for Praet we've done really well. If we get 10m we've absolutely cornholed them. I completely agree. Although I haven't a clue about cornholing. Is it painful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 29 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) If we can get a reasonable fee and his wages off the books I would let him go He isn’t that creative, not much of a goalscorer, not a ball carrier, not particularly defensive etc. and the past 2 seasons has missed a fair few months of each season with injuries 28 years old, and with only 2 years left on his deal he isn’t someone we should be giving a new deal to either Let him go whilst we can still get some money for him Edited 29 August 2022 by moore_94 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancognito Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 A month ago you maybe cut your losses and sell him but with two days of the window left are we really that confident about our injury record that we let him - and possibly Soumare - leave with no-one else coming in? There isn't even a rumour about replacements so we have to assume we're doing no business. That fabled rebuild isn't happening, this would be like taking the roof off and hoping it doesn't rain until January. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 6 minutes ago, iancognito said: A month ago you maybe cut your losses and sell him but with two days of the window left are we really that confident about our injury record that we let him - and possibly Soumare - leave with no-one else coming in? There isn't even a rumour about replacements so we have to assume we're doing no business. That fabled rebuild isn't happening, this would be like taking the roof off and hoping it doesn't rain until January. Soumare looks to be staying It also looks like we are going for this Harit from Schalke, and whilst underwhelming, can cover the roles you would probably expect we would use Praet in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropstonfox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Sell sell sell.A poor man's Andy King. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancognito Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 8 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Soumare looks to be staying It also looks like we are going for this Harit from Schalke, and whilst underwhelming, can cover the roles you would probably expect we would use Praet in I've seen Monaco linked with him 3 or 4 times already so I wouldn't be surprised if he's snapped up at 11pm on Thursday. I saw something about Harit but again I just don't get it. You're just shuffling deckchairs. If he does the same things as Praet or the others why bring him in? The obvious moves are CBs, right winger and maybe a left back. Someone who does the same as what we've got is just a waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 4 minutes ago, iancognito said: I've seen Monaco linked with him 3 or 4 times already so I wouldn't be surprised if he's snapped up at 11pm on Thursday. I saw something about Harit but again I just don't get it. You're just shuffling deckchairs. If he does the same things as Praet or the others why bring him in? The obvious moves are CBs, right winger and maybe a left back. Someone who does the same as what we've got is just a waste of time. Honestly think the club would happily sell both, which make more sense of why we are sniffing around Harit on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 2 minutes ago, iancognito said: I've seen Monaco linked with him 3 or 4 times already so I wouldn't be surprised if he's snapped up at 11pm on Thursday. I saw something about Harit but again I just don't get it. You're just shuffling deckchairs. If he does the same things as Praet or the others why bring him in? The obvious moves are CBs, right winger and maybe a left back. Someone who does the same as what we've got is just a waste of time. Harit at least appears to be a fair bit more effective in helping a team going forward than Praet Sell Praet for about £8m and get his £80k a week wages off the book before his value probably halves by next summer when he has just 1 year left and get Harit in on loan for £50k a week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 1 minute ago, moore_94 said: Harit at least appears to be a fair bit more effective in helping a team going forward than Praet Sell Praet for about £8m and get his £80k a week wages off the book before his value probably halves by next summer when he has just 1 year left and get Harit in on loan for £50k a week Weve just pocketed 80m, at which point do we need to stop recouping money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Weller 2 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 He’s okay but nothing beyond that and we need determined players with a point to prove. A refreshed team with a new resolve will breed life into the current setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Weve just pocketed 80m, at which point do we need to stop recouping money? Closer to 60 but the point is still relevant What are we likely to get for him with a year left ? We surely wouldn’t offer him a renewal at those wages I think if YT goes then we’re likely to hold onto him to avoid too much change 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will1981 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 21 minutes ago, cropstonfox said: Sell sell sell.A poor man's Andy King. but without the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Can you imagine if we wanted one of their players? Not sure £8 million would cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Closer to 60 but the point is still relevant What are we likely to get for him with a year left ? We surely wouldn’t offer him a renewal at those wages I think if YT goes then we’re likely to hold onto him to avoid too much change 65m on fofana in transfer fee. 7m on kaspers wages, 5-6m on fofanas and 3m on hamza. Roughly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Brendan doesn't rate him really so what's the point. Let him go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Just now, Chocolate Teapot said: 65m on fofana in transfer fee. 7m on kaspers wages, 5-6m on fofanas and 3m on hamza. Roughly Inc wages - then yes, much closer the paramount issue remains the likes of vestergaard - I hope we don’t cut of our noses to spite our faces …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Just now, Chocolate Teapot said: Weve just pocketed 80m, at which point do we need to stop recouping money? We don’t appear to have pocketed £80m for Fofana it sounds more like £70m, and after Saint-Etienne get their cut it is down to about £60m, and then from what Percy has said we are only going to be able to spend at most half of that We shouldn’t turn down an opportunity to move on average players like Praet, even if it means getting someone like Harit on loan for a season Sell Praet for about £8m, save his £80k a week wages for the rest of this season and also the full year he has left works out to about £16m if we get him off our books now Harit on loan for the season would be about £2m We need to start getting our finances under control for the long term and not rely on the sale of 1 player to sort it all out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 1 minute ago, moore_94 said: We don’t appear to have pocketed £80m for Fofana it sounds more like £70m, and after Saint-Etienne get their cut it is down to about £60m, and then from what Percy has said we are only going to be able to spend at most half of that We shouldn’t turn down an opportunity to move on average players like Praet, even if it means getting someone like Harit on loan for a season Sell Praet for about £8m, save his £80k a week wages for the rest of this season and also the full year he has left works out to about £16m if we get him off our books now Harit on loan for the season would be about £2m We need to start getting our finances under control for the long term and not rely on the sale of 1 player to sort it all out This harit is growing on me - anyone who is happy to play for free gets my vote ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Just now, st albans fox said: This harit is growing on me - anyone who is happy to play for free gets my vote ! £50k a week until the end of a loan contract would cost us about £2m 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 7 minutes ago, TK95 said: Brendan doesn't rate him really so what's the point. Let him go Ok Elsa! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 2 minutes ago, moore_94 said: We don’t appear to have pocketed £80m for Fofana it sounds more like £70m, and after Saint-Etienne get their cut it is down to about £60m, and then from what Percy has said we are only going to be able to spend at most half of that We shouldn’t turn down an opportunity to move on average players like Praet, even if it means getting someone like Harit on loan for a season Sell Praet for about £8m, save his £80k a week wages for the rest of this season and also the full year he has left works out to about £16m if we get him off our books now Harit on loan for the season would be about £2m We need to start getting our finances under control for the long term and not rely on the sale of 1 player to sort it all out See my other post. We have 6 players out of contract this season too. I think people are overthinking it. The only reason Rodgers will only get half is because we need the money to sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: See my other post. We have 6 players out of contract this season too. I think people are overthinking it. The only reason Rodgers will only get half is because we need the money to sack him. I just don’t see the point in keeping him when we would probably be lucky to get £5m for him next summer (that is if we don’t stupidly give him a new deal), get someone that probably wouldn’t be any worse on loan (might even be better) for the season and give us a decent bit of money to carry over to next summer when we are going to need every penny for a big rebuild I just don’t really even see what Praet adds to the squad if we keep him Edited 29 August 2022 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 2 minutes ago, moore_94 said: I just don’t see the point in keeping him when we would probably be lucky to get £5m for him next summer (that is if we don’t stupidly give him a new deal), get someone that probably wouldn’t be any worse on loan (might even be better) for the season and give us a decent bit of money to carry over to next summer when we are going to need every penny for a big rebuild I just don’t really even see what Praet adds to the squad if we keep him I'm fine with him going providing we replace him with a decent player. But him like fofana need replacing. We currently have 22 fit Senior players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 12 minutes ago, moore_94 said: £50k a week until the end of a loan contract would cost us about £2m 🙂 So we don’t have to pay a loan fee ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 16 minutes ago, moore_94 said: £50k a week until the end of a loan contract would cost us about £2m 🙂 Isn't he on £80k a week at Schalke I read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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