Wakey ****ing wakey

[HybridFox]

5 hours ago, MattFox said:

Puel never had us in a position as bad as this 

He seems an attractive proposition at this moment in time

Edited 5 March 2023 by TK95

[Mr Weller 2]

Silly thread, pointless raving. 

[FoxyJim1987]

1 hour ago, iancognito said:

Ah here we go. "We were in League One 15 years ago". There's one in every post.Too many people are coloured by "we've been shitter than this" and "that's just little old Leicester" Too many people just accept relegation as inevitable because we're a provincial club. The lack of any ambition beyond that is staggering.

 

He's definitely not Peter Taylor. But Puel? I mean he had 1 bad season out of 2 and was higher in the league when we sacked him for side to side passionless football. You can say 1 bad season for Rodgers but in reality it's two and in even starker reality we've been largely shit since the January before we won the cup. A second inexplicable drop off in form, ballsing up a Europa group and then Europa Conference group when we were head and shoulders above most sides we faced. The set piece issue and the sheer number of points dropped from winning positions is just incredible for a supposed top manager to be responsible for.

 

If you talk about  having seen worse. Absolutely I have. Hamilton, Pleat, Levein - all of them managed the odd good result and it went quiet for a week. Odd that. Fans being happy to win. But you were equally quiet with the run of defeats either side of it I'm betting.

 

Reactionary is one thing. That's after the odd bad result but the season is a shambles, tactically, performances, results, the lot. And whatever happened or not in the summer, we shouldn't be struggling like this and that's on Rodgers' Teflon shoulders.

How many times In our long history have we finished 5th, 5th and 8th in the top division?? With a tiny net spend?? No it's not going well this season, but when you aren't allowed to sign anyone all summer, lose you keeper of 11 years and your best defender, then have injuries to your captain, both your best full backs, and on off injuries for your best player then have your club legend fall off a cliff, these are all factors that Rodgers cannot be blamed for. Yes he is of course to blame for things but not everything. To have this hatred and anger towards someone who has brought so much success and some of the best football I've seen us play ever, is strange. As I say if Barnes scores at Forest or we take one or two last night, Daka doesn't try and dribble v Brighton and hacks it down the other end, etc etc we wouldn't be near this position. Too many players getting away Scott free when they have ballsed up constantly.

[FoxyJim1987]

5 hours ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Nothing wrong with communism.

 

Neil Lenin and Marx Albrighton are club legends

😂😂😂👍

[MattFox]

16 minutes ago, TK95 said:

He seems an attractive proposition at this moment in time

Lowest we ever went under Puel was 12th

 

We’ve fallen further the last two seasons under Rodgers then at any point under Puel

[Raj]

21 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Wow, never seen such an intelligent original response.

You've been spouting sh1t all day.

[Jono1604]

19 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Silly thread, pointless raving. 

Silly comment! 

[lifted*fox]

18 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Silly thread, pointless raving. 

 

guys not content with their rants living inside one of the many existing relevant threads spilling out all over the place atm

 

iM MoRE aNGrY aBoUT RoDgERs ThAN yOu - WhY IS NoBoDY eLsE So ANgRY?! 

 

if you're not frothing at the mouth with hatred then you're a 'brendanite' and you're COMPLICIT IN THE END OF THE WORLD.

 

lol, please.  give over.

 

 

[Vazman]

2 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Rodgers isn't as bad as Taylor or Puel?  

 

Good grief.

Puel really wasnt as bad as you make out, he certainly never had us around where we are now, yes his football was hard to watch but so is what we are seeing now

[Gunnlaugson's Rizlas]

What happened to the plane banner that was being discussed a while back? Did we ever settle on a slogan for it?

[Mr.Bingles]

16 hours ago, Lako42 said:

I see hundreds of posts on here saying they are Brendan out and rightly so. 

 

It's time to put your money where your mouth is and actually do what is required. 

 

This **** will throw our club under the bus to the media and they will lap it up all day long. I for one can't stand the thought of BR setting the narrative. 

 

It's time for us to wake the **** up and make our feelings known. 

 

If you actually give a **** then it's time for banners and genuine vocal action. 

 

 

If not, then you are complicit. 

The Championship was much more fun. He’s doing all the fans a favour. 

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

29 minutes ago, Gunnlaugson's Rizlas said:

What happened to the plane banner that was being discussed a while back? Did we ever settle on a slogan for it?

Yes. Plane banners have to say '[Manager] Out. [Chairman] Out. Sack the Board.'
If we don't have our traditions then we have nothing.

[iancognito]

1 hour ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

How many times In our long history have we finished 5th, 5th and 8th in the top division?? With a tiny net spend?? No it's not going well this season, but when you aren't allowed to sign anyone all summer, lose you keeper of 11 years and your best defender, then have injuries to your captain, both your best full backs, and on off injuries for your best player then have your club legend fall off a cliff, these are all factors that Rodgers cannot be blamed for. Yes he is of course to blame for things but not everything. To have this hatred and anger towards someone who has brought so much success and some of the best football I've seen us play ever, is strange. As I say if Barnes scores at Forest or we take one or two last night, Daka doesn't try and dribble v Brighton and hacks it down the other end, etc etc we wouldn't be near this position. Too many players getting away Scott free when they have ballsed up constantly.

5th and 5th were off the back of winning streaks at the start of each season. Since that second tail off the "best football" has been nowhere to be seen. 8th in that 3rd season was a bit of a misnomer because we'd dropped like a stone and only 3 wins against the bottom 5 in the final 3 games gave it more of a shine. But I don't just look at the results I look at the performances and tactics within them. Look how long the set piece thing caused a problem. Something like 42 goals conceded from it last season. Again points dropped from winning positions - 52 over the last two seasons. It's a damning statistic that we are unable to close out games or look comfortable with any lead. Look back at the opening game of the season. Two nil up against Brentford. He brought on a second striker to counteract the extra midfielder that Franke brought on. We lost control of the game and the lead and dropped two points. By his own admission, he doesn't have a plan B. I'm far from a hater - the 19/20 football was superb. I'll always appreciate the cup win but those things are in the past. Has he been backed sufficiently since? Probably not but good managers manage. They work with and improve the players they have. His admission that he needed fresh blood should have been a trigger in the board room to find a manager who can work on a shoestring not publicly call out the club and the players for their failings. After telling us all the squad needed improving, he got the improved players and then dropped ¾ of the back four to face Blackburn. He knows Amartey can't pass. He knows Soumare is hopeless. He said Thomas needed help. He brought in all 3 to face Blackburn.

 

If he doesn't want people to shoot him, he should stop supplying the ammo 🤷

[don_danbury]

1 hour ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

How many times In our long history have we finished 5th, 5th and 8th in the top division?? With a tiny net spend?? No it's not going well this season, but when you aren't allowed to sign anyone all summer, lose you keeper of 11 years and your best defender, then have injuries to your captain, both your best full backs, and on off injuries for your best player then have your club legend fall off a cliff, these are all factors that Rodgers cannot be blamed for. Yes he is of course to blame for things but not everything. To have this hatred and anger towards someone who has brought so much success and some of the best football I've seen us play ever, is strange. As I say if Barnes scores at Forest or we take one or two last night, Daka doesn't try and dribble v Brighton and hacks it down the other end, etc etc we wouldn't be near this position. Too many players getting away Scott free when they have ballsed up constantly.

excuses excuses. even if he didn't get anyone in last summer he's still been well backed. he's spent a fortune on crappy players. we have an injury crisis with him every season, so he should be well used to that now. 

no way should that squad be 2 points of relegation  should be fighting for top 10 at least

[Ian S]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

You've been spouting sh1t all day.

And that’s post of the day, well put.

[LCFCJohn]

7 hours ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Don't talk such absolute shite. Complicit? Communist are you? I think having an opinion does not make me complicit at all. I support LCFC and will do til the day I die, if I don't come to the ground like some angry teenager waving a crap banner doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. Calm down and realise some fans have seen a hell of a lot worse. This manager that people seem to want to pull apart has had one bad season really out of 4, he's not a Peter Taylor or a puel, and it isn't his fault really that those pathetic players missed those chances yesterday. Is there a call of Kelechi to be sacked? No it's all Rodgers. Went every quiet after we beat Spurs, it's very reactionary and it's nonsense.

So basically it’s all about league position hence you say one bad year out of 4?

 

Last season was awful football and a preview of the relegation battle we would be in this year. We finished 8th because we managed to get a few results under no pressure from teams whose seasons were done (mainly by being relegated). 
 

In terms of looking like a decent team, we have had 3 good half seasons. Second half 2019 (when he arrived) and the first half of both the 5th placed seasons. This is if you value traits such as performance, mentality and generally fighting for the club over just where we finished at the end of the seasons.

 

Also, I have already said it on a different thread but Puel does not deserve mentioning alongside Rodgers. He always did what was best for the club not his own image. He was a class act after the helicopter crash and did the dirty job of the squad overhaul following Ranieri and Shakespeare’s reigns that was needed. Yes it was dull but he set us on the path, squad wise, to allow Rodgers to take over a squad capable of achieving what it did for a couple of years. 
 

In terms of it going quiet. I have wanted him gone for 18 months or more. However, I appreciated those were good performances and shown some promise, especially with the new signings. I am a fairly balanced person so yeah, why come on here criticising. I said the same before the World Cup, if we get out of relegation trouble, the is less urgency to make the change. Doesn’t mean I suddenly changed my mind and want him on a new contract blah blah blah. But it just became less urgent. Since then he reverted to type, then showed some promise again and then reverted to type again and we are looking both barrels at relegation.

 

 

[LCFCJohn]

7 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Quite a lot of people have never changed their views, irrespective of the winning run pre WC or the two wins a few weeks ago.  If he was getting a tune out of the players at that time then that was great but it didn’t change the view that he shouldn’t be our manager.  I was ok for him to be here until the summer if we were picking up points and going to be safe.  But that doesn’t look to be the case now and the confidence in the squad will be rock bottom again after the last two results. 
I can see that he’s finally publicly backing the players but there are tactical details every time it goes wrong in games that he should be taking care of. I don’t believe that the board will make a change until we are languishing in the bottom three and more than 3 points from safety. I’m wondering if his severance package changes at the end of the season. 

 

I am confident that he won’t be in charge come the beginning of next season but v worried that we will be a championship club by then ….

This 

[LCFCJohn]

4 hours ago, David Lowe said:

It depends if you feel achievements in the past should count for anything now.

One thing I am certain of is that thinking Puel was better than Rodgers because we were never in relegation trouble is ridiculous.

I think it gives you a bit of credit yes. It does not give you the freedom to take the club into free fall.

 

To blindly stick by him indefinitely because of past success is the definition of living in the past and ignoring the present. 

[Guest Lako42]

3 hours ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

@Lako42 You need to calm down mate.

Thanks for your concern but I'm perfectly fine. 

 

Not sure how anyone thinks spouting off on a football forum has any relevance to actual life. 

 

I've just spent a wonderful afternoon up the allotment, really relaxing. 

 

Granted I spent the entire time pretending I was burying Brendan but that's perfectly normal... 

 

 

Edited 5 March 2023 by Lako42

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, LCFCJohn said:

I think it gives you a bit of credit yes. It does not give you the freedom to take the club into free fall.

 

To blindly stick by him indefinitely because of past success is the definition of living in the past and ignoring the present. 

Two separate things, they need not be related. He needs to go now, to save this season, but I won’t begrudge him the FA Cup, nor Ranieri the League win.

[blueharmie]

Board feel they've missed the window to sack Rodgers,  and have doubts over if a top manager would want to join the club in its current position. atm they are backing him and will review his position in the summer

 

 

 

 

 

[blueharmie]

Just now, blueharmie said:

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Edited 5 March 2023 by blueharmie

[Foxdiamond]

3 hours ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

How many times In our long history have we finished 5th, 5th and 8th in the top division?? With a tiny net spend?? No it's not going well this season, but when you aren't allowed to sign anyone all summer, lose you keeper of 11 years and your best defender, then have injuries to your captain, both your best full backs, and on off injuries for your best player then have your club legend fall off a cliff, these are all factors that Rodgers cannot be blamed for. Yes he is of course to blame for things but not everything. To have this hatred and anger towards someone who has brought so much success and some of the best football I've seen us play ever, is strange. As I say if Barnes scores at Forest or we take one or two last night, Daka doesn't try and dribble v Brighton and hacks it down the other end, etc etc we wouldn't be near this position. Too many players getting away Scott free when they have ballsed up constantly.

I don't hate Brendan and you make some good points particularly about injuries. It is though alarming how much and quickly we have declined. It is the manager's job to fix the issues. He takes the plaudits when things are going well. The defeats from winning positions, the number of goals conceded from corners etc, the slow pointless passing around the back, can't keep a clean sheet, now can't even get shots on target. No change of plan when the opposition coach changes things.  Even his demeanour has become irritating  the little claps and silly notebook when the wheels are falling off

[LCFCJohn]

36 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Two separate things, they need not be related. He needs to go now, to save this season, but I won’t begrudge him the FA Cup, nor Ranieri the League win.

It’s like you’re trying to disagree with me but saying what I am in different words 

 

Have I begrudged him the FA cup win or Ranieri the league win? 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, LCFCJohn said:

It’s like you’re trying to disagree with me but saying what I am in different words 

 

Have I begrudged him the FA cup win or Ranieri the league win? 

Guess I just view in a subtly different way, but good we agree anyway.