The Enzo Thread

[when_you're_smiling]

4 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I don't feel sorry for the players it is what it is. 

 

I feel sorry for our traveling fans. A day off to go to Millwall and a day off to go to Plymouth.

 

But it seems no one cares about fans any more.

 

We should all boycott sky. They treat us like shite.

Good point.

 

It is ridiculous playing Tues and Fri though. Pep and especially Klopp moan if they have to play 12.30pm kick off on a Saturday even if it’s at home. They’d be getting the fans to riot if they were scheduled on the Friday.

[weller54]

8 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Hes probably one of our best defenders if Enzo actually used him. Especially at this level

Yep 🤬

[m4DD0gg]

Watching the plymouth pre-match conference its quite clear he wont be changing a thing on friday.

 

Everything about him screams Pep clone.

 

 

[Nolucklcfc]

21 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said:

Yeah. I think that is the case. Large portion of the support never took to him, or his style of play even when his team was winning. Disastrous financial situation behind the scenes including an inability to strengthen the squad in January. Now the results are not going his way and he is straight up not having a good time

 

I genuinely feel he wouldn’t want to continue here if we didn’t go up. I don’t think he likes the amount of games either. He’ll stay if we go up and he would deserve a chance at PL level if we do but I just don’t get the sense that he likes it here at the moment. 

[Stinkenzo]

We actually get a few hours longer rest than the Wednesday night-Saturday afternoon teams. But I get the frustration that it was due to be slightly more than half a week off and now it's 3 days as well as a long trip. The bigger grievance should be with the EFL for allowing a match to be moved a Friday night which involves a 500 mile round trip for the away side 

[Ric Flair]

6 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

Watching the plymouth pre-match conference its quite clear he wont be changing a thing on friday.

 

Everything about him screams Pep clone.

 

 

That's a huge disservice to Pep who tweaks and changes his system and philosophy most seasons.

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

That's a huge disservice to Pep who tweaks and changes his system and philosophy most seasons.

Absolutely 

there are players like rodri who seem never to get a rest (winks) but others are often rested 

[Mickyblueeyes]

31 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Maybe but then how are we top with 5 games to go? Luck? All the work of the squad despite him? Not sure how to correlate the two points tbh..

Firstly, I don’t think you’ve got to take criticism of Enzo as “he is a bad manager” and that’s it. He has a lot of good qualities. Coaching just from where he has been is definitely one of those. Enzo has a lot going for him - the question is do we have the time or the facilities to deal with the shortcomings. The clubs quite badly wounded due to last season.
 

Secondly, there have been plenty of managers over the years that we’ve had who haven’t fit because of our situation at the time. There’s been a various obvious examples of a manager who fits us but didn’t fit others. Granted that’s me looking into a crystal ball and whether the fit works going forward - I just don’t see how it does. Others may be different.

Edited 11 April 2024 by Mickyblueeyes

[Lambert09]

8 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

I genuinely feel he wouldn’t want to continue here if we didn’t go up. I don’t think he likes the amount of games either. He’ll stay if we go up and he would deserve a chance at PL level if we do but I just don’t get the sense that he likes it here at the moment. 

it’s not an ideal situation for him, especially since the PSR breach reveal… and not because of the punishments involved. It’s more because now everyone is pointing at the fact that we’ve spent so much money and that we’ve cheated to get this squad. It leads to an implication that if he wins the league.. so what, he should have with that expensive team that they’ve cheated for.  If he slips up, then everyone basically assumes he’s a Lampard. The snub for the manager of the year awards would definitely eat at him. 

 

We could go up with over 100 points and he still probably wouldn’t  get that many plaudits from even our own fans. Rightly or wrongly. 

 

There’s no guarantee other methods work better (even if i personally believe they would be). But it can’t be great knowing that nothing you can do will really prove yourself to anyone. 

Edited 11 April 2024 by Lambert09

[m4DD0gg]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

That's a huge disservice to Pep who tweaks and changes his system and philosophy most seasons.

I was thinking more the mannerisms that Enzo outwardly portrays......almost as though he is copying him verbatim but sadly lacks the underlying capability

[Fazzer 7]

4 hours ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Well that's not what he said was it? He's saying we've got 4 strikers, we only play 1, someone misses out. At the minute its Cannon although it should be Daka that's exiled.

 

And on your 2nd point, isn't it common knowledge that it was a club signing, not an Enzo one??? As a contingency plan for when Vardy retires.

Fair enough but it's not 'at the minute' is it. He's been under utilised since recovering from the injury we inherited. I definitely agree with you regarding Daka.

[Nolucklcfc]

1 minute ago, Lambert09 said:

it’s not an ideal situation for him, especially since the PSR breach reveal… and not because of the punishments involved. It’s more because now everyone is pointing at the fact that we’ve spent so much money and that we’ve cheated to get this squad. It leads to an implication that if he wins the league.. so what, he should have with that expensive team that they’ve cheated for.  If he slips up, then everyone basically assumes he’s a Lampard. The snub for the manager of the year awards would definitely eat at him. 

 

We could go up with over 100 points and he still probably won’t get that many plaudits from our own fans. Rightly or wrongly. 

 

There’s no guarantee other methods work better (even if i personally believe they would be). But it can’t be great knowing that nothing you can do will really prove yourself to anyone. 

Maybe but at the same time if we don’t go up, his stock will be really low. To bottle 17 points is pretty outrageous 

[Lewis's Junior]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

Don't be ridiculous. 

 

They have nominated certain players in the squad to drive and they will each take 3 players with them. 

Hopefully not Hamza 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Mickyblueeyes said:

Firstly, I don’t think you’ve got to take criticism of Enzo as “he is a bad manager” and that’s it. He has a lot of good qualities. Coaching just from where he has been is definitely one of those. Enzo has a lot going for him - the question is do we have the time or the facilities to deal with the shortcomings. The clubs quite badly wounded due to last season.
 

Secondly, there have been plenty of managers over the years that we’ve had who haven’t fit because of our situation at the time. There’s been a various obvious example of a manager who fits us but didn’t fit others. Granted that’s me looking into a crystal ball and whether the fit works going forward - I just don’t see how it does. Others may be different.

It’s an interesting quandary and makes me wonder who would be the ideal candidate. It’s easy to say Pearson as a builder,  but is that that the type we need right now? This feels like a strange job against such uncertainty and restriction, someone to make us survive against the choppy times maybe.

[ronnup]

Maybe he's playing mind games...imagine Plymouth's surprise when we come out with a 343 playing Vardy Cannon and Kelechi 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Moaning about tiredness can be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the players keep hearing Enzo say it often enough they'll start to believe it. It also gives them an excuse to keep churning out half-arsed performances.

 

We've also got a bigger squad than almost everyone else in the league. Just a suggestion - but maybe start using it?

[filbertway]

11 hours ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

His style of football only works with elite players.

 

Man City can do it because even if opposition are making it difficult De Bruyne, Silva, Foden, Haaland etc will do something out of the ordinary.

 

We don’t have that and as soon as teams figured out how we play (and our reluctance to change) we’ve become very easy to play against. Even though we’re top, I can’t recall the last game we won comfortably 

Most styles work with elite players as well - which to me suggests, it's probably not a great style if it only works with top players

 

[weller54]

6 minutes ago, ronnup said:

Maybe he's playing mind games...imagine Plymouth's surprise when we come out with a 343 playing Vardy Cannon and Kelechi 

More chance of The Tories winning the GE!!

[Will1981]

2 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Don't be ridiculous. 

 

They have nominated certain players in the squad to drive and they will each take 3 players with them. 

Which 3 would you send with Hamza driving.

[m4DD0gg]

Also Enzo's comments about Cannon are bonkers....

 

'Tom is fine. With Tom, I feel a bit how I felt like with Patson at the start of the season. I feel sad. He trains well every day. At other clubs, he would be a striker who could score goals. But we have so many strikers. He is a fantastic professional.'

 

Well......how about actually starting him or bringing him off the bench........

[Vazman]

8 minutes ago, Will1981 said:

Which 3 would you send with Hamza driving.

Danny Ward, Wout Faes, and Daka.

[jayfox26]

12 minutes ago, Will1981 said:

Which 3 would you send with Hamza driving.

Hamza and Ward can share 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, m4DD0gg said:

I was thinking more the mannerisms that Enzo outwardly portrays......almost as though he is copying him verbatim but sadly lacks the underlying capability

Yes, that is fair.

[Lambert09]

52 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

Also Enzo's comments about Cannon are bonkers....

 

'Tom is fine. With Tom, I feel a bit how I felt like with Patson at the start of the season. I feel sad. He trains well every day. At other clubs, he would be a striker who could score goals. But we have so many strikers. He is a fantastic professional.'

 

Well......how about actually starting him or bringing him off the bench........

might as well just say he doesn’t rate him. If the others were bagging consistently you wouldn’t argue it but Patson has been dreadful since the Afcon and i don’t remember the last time Kel effected a game positively 

[Mickyblueeyes]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

It’s an interesting quandary and makes me wonder who would be the ideal candidate. It’s easy to say Pearson as a builder,  but is that that the type we need right now? This feels like a strange job against such uncertainty and restriction, someone to make us survive against the choppy times maybe.

Well it’s difficult to know who is the right fit for us as a club now and even more so without the certainty of which division we will be in. 
 

I mean Big Nige was quite stuck in his ways. He played 4-4-2 more often then not and it took him quite some time to adjust to the 3 at the back in the great escape season. Even O’Neil was very stringent on his style and set up. Many times we had injuries during or just after the Christmas period and the 3-5-2 was the norm.

 

I’d say our most innovative manager during my time as a Leicester fan was Brian Little! What was it 4-2-4 with Ormonroyd (sp?) on the wing in the playoffs ? So we need a young Brian. He also did it when faced with clubs with far bigger budgets and resources (Blackburn, Palace, Forest, Derby etc.). 
 

Seriously speaking, we need a pragmatic manager for next year. I’m hoping it’s the PL. David Moyes would fit us like a glove but I don’t think he’d see his next step as a fire fighting budget restraint Leicester boss as his next step. 

Edited 11 April 2024 by Mickyblueeyes