Also In The News - part 3

[Lionator]

False flag theories are so ludicrous. Do you think a state who botched the invasion so badly, who accidentally ended up with Prighozin on the verge of a coup, could possibly organise anything like this without being picked up by foreign intelligence? 

[kenny]

2 minutes ago, Lionator said:

False flag theories are so ludicrous. Do you think a state who botched the invasion so badly, who accidentally ended up with Prighozin on the verge of a coup, could possibly organise anything like this without being picked up by foreign intelligence? 

Not if it was the CIA that organised it.

[Lionator]

6 minutes ago, kenny said:

Not if it was the CIA that organised it.

What would the CIA gain from blowing up a random theatre 30km from Moscow? 

[urban.spaceman]

Must say Nike have done a brilliant job of marketing the new England kit.

[South Shire Fox]

Half of twitter replies blaming it on Israel😂. Couldnt possibly be Islamists from Chechnya..

Edited 22 March 2024 by South Shire Fox

[kenny]

Just now, Lionator said:

What would the CIA gain from blowing up a random theatre 30km from Moscow? 

No idea.

 

We won't know until the plot twist.

 

 

[Lionator]

7 hours ago, kenny said:

No idea.

 

We won't know until the plot twist.

 

 

The plot twist is that Putin was told this would happen and dismissed it as American propaganda. 
 

And the before you quote the Americans knowing as evidence of CIA involvement, Americans are balls deep in ISIS communication, so they hear these things. 

[String fellow]

Bataclan, Manchester Arena, Re'im, Crocus. Where next?

[kenny]

25 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The plot twist is that Putin was told this would happen and dismissed it as American propaganda. 
 

And the before you quote the Americans knowing as evidence of CIA involvement, Americans are balls deep in ISIS communication, so they hear these things. 

Now we are getting somewhere!

[Trav Le Bleu]

I fully expected to wake up this morning and find out that the King of Thailand had exiled Aiyawatt and confiscated all his wealth.

[st albans fox]

9 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

Half of twitter replies blaming it on Israel😂. Couldnt possibly be Islamists from Chechnya..

sadly sums up SM 

And they actually believe it 

I suppose we’ve moved on - before Israel was created it was usually the Jews who were responsible for all the ills of the world ……

[Dunge]

10 hours ago, Lionator said:

False flag theories are so ludicrous. Do you think a state who botched the invasion so badly, who accidentally ended up with Prighozin on the verge of a coup, could possibly organise anything like this without being picked up by foreign intelligence? 

As much as anything, Russia don’t need a false flag anymore. They’re already doing whatever they want and making up some narrative to back it.

 

Question now is how they’ll respond to it. If this group’s origin is right, they may lean on central Asian allies to deal with it for them.

[MPH]

115 reported dead now from the Moscow tragedy. Say what you want about them politically, no person deserves that when going for a nice evening out…

 

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, Dunge said:

As much as anything, Russia don’t need a false flag anymore. They’re already doing whatever they want and making up some narrative to back it.

 

Question now is how they’ll respond to it. If this group’s origin is right, they may lean on central Asian allies to deal with it for them.

They’re of Tajikistani origin by the look of it so you’re probably correct. Although I’m sure they’ll draw some tenuous propaganda link to Ukraine.

 

The FSB are useless. In a true competent dictatorship like Stalin’s, they’d have all been murdered for their incompetence but now it seems to get rewarded provided you can loot the state and protect those in power. 

[MPH]

 

 

it’s a very interesting development for there to be an Islamist attack INSIDE of Russia, especially Moscow,. You can’t ignore the backdrop of what’s going on in Ukraine.

 

This will be a dent to their pride and it’s very possible they will shift some sort of focus elsewhere .. Ala U.S after 9/11.

 

Do they want to be fighting two wars at the same time?
 

 

[Leicesterpool]

Is this possible this attack in moscow was an inside job... give reason for Russia to attack someone else.

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

13 hours ago, Lionator said:

False flag theories are so ludicrous. Do you think a state who botched the invasion so badly, who accidentally ended up with Prighozin on the verge of a coup, could possibly organise anything like this without being picked up by foreign intelligence? 

And yet Putin seems to be blaming Ukraine in the last hour FSB claim the attackers were fleeing back to Ukraine.

 

Because of course, if you get away with it, you head back to where you came. Also, how far away must you travel for someone to be sure that's where you were heading?

 

And of course Islamist groups already saying it was them.

 

Doesn't need a false flag, just to ignore a very real warning, then when it happens, turn it to your advantage.

[Lionator]

30 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

And yet Putin seems to be blaming Ukraine in the last hour FSB claim the attackers were fleeing back to Ukraine.

 

Because of course, if you get away with it, you head back to where you came. Also, how far away must you travel for someone to be sure that's where you were heading?

 

And of course Islamist groups already saying it was them.

 

Doesn't need a false flag, just to ignore a very real warning, then when it happens, turn it to your advantage.

Pretty sure this isn’t true. He said there were people in Ukraine who were going to let them across the border. If he was going on the Ukraine angle, he’d have been straight to the point. That part is just easy propaganda. A bit like when our politicians say Brexit was Russia, or 3 coats going missing from Primark has links to Moscow. 
 

Also the thing Putin does well is says very little, he wants lots of different people saying different things as it somehow reinforces his power. 

Edited 23 March 2024 by Lionator

[SeCrEt FoX]

56 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Is this possible this attack in moscow was an inside job... give reason for Russia to attack someone else.

 

Don't think they will have the resources with them in Ukraine also. They are thin on numbers as it is hence why they made a deal with prisoners to fight for their freedom.

 

*Disclaimer*

I know F*** All about politics and normally stay away from these topics but that's my 2 cents worth. 

[Leicesterpool]

Just find convenient that all suspects were caught so quickly and happen to be near the ukraine boarder.

[Mike Oxlong]

9 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Just find convenient that all suspects were caught so quickly and happen to be near the ukraine boarder.

I hadn’t realised that Nazis had such a soft spot for Muslim terrorists until now 🤔

[Trav Le Bleu]

24 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Just find convenient that all suspects were caught so quickly and happen to be near the ukraine boarder.

Indeed. Successfully pulled off their attack to great effect (from their point of view), got away scot free and yet apprehended red-handed, as it were.

 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

Pretty sure this isn’t true. He said there were people in Ukraine who were going to let them across the border. If he was going on the Ukraine angle, he’d have been straight to the point. That part is just easy propaganda. A bit like when our politicians say Brexit was Russia, or 3 coats going missing from Primark has links to Moscow. 
 

Also the thing Putin does well is says very little, he wants lots of different people saying different things as it somehow reinforces his power. 

 

they’ve been very quick to blame Ukraine for any internal issues they’ve had..

[Dunge]

It’s no surprise really. If the Russian public start thinking “the Muslims are out to get them” they might also start thinking that having all their military holed up in Ukraine fighting phantom threats instead of real ones is a bad idea.

[Parafox]

13 minutes ago, Dunge said:

It’s no surprise really. If the Russian public start thinking “the Muslims are out to get them” they might also start thinking that having all their military holed up in Ukraine fighting phantom threats instead of real ones is a bad idea.

They won't.

 

They will likely see it as a an isolated attack that will result in some response, but not "militarily".  They've got the Stasi for that.

 

Most Russian's believe in the war in Ukraine and will continue to support the army being there rather than being pulled back to counter a negligible (in the scheme of things) incident.