England problem

[alfox13]

Guardian:

Campaign after campaign has been hobbled by English football’s chronic inability to produce the midfielder who can simply and productively take the ball, keep possession, offer control in midfield. “We have been short of these types of players for seven or eight years, if I’m honest,” Southgate lamented before the tournament. “At times, that has had an effect on the way we have been able to play.”

 

Is there anyone we know who can do that? 

Edited 10 July 2024 by alfox13

[DJ Barry Hammond]

I don’t think we can sell them Soumaré for a number of reasons, but nice try.

[Finnegan]

Southgate wouldn't have a clue what to do with Harry Winks if he rocked up at training tbqh. 

 

[TheStig]

5 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Southgate wouldn't have a clue what to do with Harry Winks if he rocked up at training tbqh. 

 

He would actually - bench him.....

[st albans fox]

Winks did well for England a few years ago but he lacks the physicality to progress the ball in the hurly burly of the modern day midfield 

 

he’s fine at the base of the patterns as a six but the player Southgate refers to is Philips of a few years ago who was able to do that and also get forward to support - a hybrid 6 and 8.  mainoo is looking like he will develop into that player. 

[ALC Fox]

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[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, ALC Fox said:

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Let’s hope so 

We’ve seen ngolo show that size is not everything in that area.  But he’s very much the exception 

[slymunn]

30 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Let’s hope so 

We’ve seen ngolo show that size is not everything in that area.  But he’s very much the exception 

Luka Modric as well  

[Sampson]

Not being funny, Harry Winks was good for us in the Championship last season, but he shouldn’t be playing for England.

[fazzyfox]

I thought Ross Barkley had evolved into that kind of player recently and had a chance of making the squad. Haven't seen much of Wharton but have heard good things . Then there's Winksy.

[Stadt]

Wharton is it, I think if he'd had a full season under Glasner there'd be no qualms about him starting 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Blue tinted specs in the extreme  

 

[ScotFox1]

When I saw the title of this thread, I immediately thought this was about supporting Spain in the final so that Kane remains behind Vardy on winners medals!!  

[Stuntman_Mike]

I don't understand this thread.

 

Are we suggesting we have a player who should be in the England team? 

 

Also the timing is strange, because we've picked up in the last couple of games and are in the final so there isn't so much of a 'problem'. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

14 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Southgate wouldn't have a clue what to do with Harry Winks if he rocked up at training tbqh. 

 

Goalkeeper?

[Lutterworth Fox]

2 hours ago, ScotFox1 said:

When I saw the title of this thread, I immediately thought this was about supporting Spain in the final so that Kane remains behind Vardy on winners medals!!  

Don't worry he will, we can support England as much as we like, there's no way England beat Spain.

[funkyrobot]

12 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Winks did well for England a few years ago but he lacks the physicality to progress the ball in the hurly burly of the modern day midfield 

 

he’s fine at the base of the patterns as a six but the player Southgate refers to is Philips of a few years ago who was able to do that and also get forward to support - a hybrid 6 and 8.  mainoo is looking like he will develop into that player. 

Never saw much of this mythical Phillips number 8 work tbh. He liked to sit deep, ping the odd quarterback pass but mainly the good old short back pass to a centre half or a sideways pass to Rice.