Jordan Ayew (interest confirmed by Percy)

[MPH]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

atm hes not good enough for palace, as he hasnt been starting and hes not been offered a new deal....

and im not against signing at all, Im against the price tag, that much for a 32/33yr old, its alot of money considering the state finance wise we are in

 

I guess it’s a calculated gamble.. cost of this deal, considering we haven’t been able to get our preferred targets, is worth it if it secures us another season of prem football.

 

 

( fyi he played 35 games for palace last season )

Edited 22 August 2024 by MPH

[enmac]

 

[Muzzy_no7]

He simply isn’t a striker, particularly in a 4-2-3-1.

 

On the wings he isn’t better than any of Mav, Fatawu or Bobby. 
 

Id prefer McAteer to get gametime or even shift the Argie right in a 4-3-3 with a combative midfield of Winks, Ndidi and Skipp.

 

I do not support this signing at all. I don’t remember ever feeling like this about someone we are after. 

[LCFCJohn]

39 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

We have signed 2 x 23, 20 and 18 old so we have brought in a decent amount of young players.

 

It’s was poorly worded by me. It wasn’t meant to refer to the signings made but just answering the point of us being unable to plan for the future. I suppose the point you have highlighted in a way what I was trying to say.

 

@MGLCFCyou made the same point so same reply to yourself.

[enmac]

According to Transfermarkt, his main position is CF.

[enmac]

Just now, enmac said:

According to Transfermarkt, his main position is CF.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/jordan-ayew/profil/spieler/108354

[alanf0x]

We paid £5million for Akinbyi about 15 years ago. £5million is nothing these days. 
 

If he works hard and gives his all, that’s good enough for me. We will get better goal scorers in next week 

[TrentFox]

Uninspiring. But we have one striker worthy of that title. And he’s feckin’ ancient. Ayew can play there. Probably more effectively than anyone else we can play there. A grim signing, but a sign of the times. Let’s all get over it ASAP 🥴

Edited 22 August 2024 by TrentFox

[LCFCJohn]

44 minutes ago, Cropwellfox said:

Think we are pretty well placed for the future if we do go down. Stolarczyk, Nelson, VK, Skipp, Alves, Braybrooke, McAteer, Mavididi, Fatawu, Cannon, Richards all tied into decent length contracts. 

We should also realise a decent PSR profit for Hermansen and Faes, whilst Winks, Okoli, Riccy, Vestergaard and Souttar should be able to find a move away if we needed to from a salary perspective. 

If we stay up, we go again next summer and add 2 or 3 first choice players to the squad, and if we’ve done well enough for one of the players to get a big transfer away, so be it, we go back to the model that’s served us so well till Rudkin and Whelan had a massive brain fart. 

I agree, I have spoken very positively about the future if we utilise the young players we have.

 

I guess you need a mixture of players and I’m not as against Ayew as others are (although finances are a concern). But if you make too many Ayew type signings, you really have to stay up as they are geared up for that not for the level below.

[LCFCJohn]

47 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

If short term keeps you in this division during what is sure to be a difficult season, it’s hard to disagree with it.

What if focusing too much on the short term causes a lot more damage long term though? It’s a fine balancing act admittedly. Of course we want to stay up, but as long as the long term future of the club isn’t jeopardised.

[Silva Fox]

3 minutes ago, alanf0x said:

We paid £5million for Akinbyi about 15 years ago. £5million is nothing these days. 
 

If he works hard and gives his all, that’s good enough for me. We will get better goal scorers in next week 

Probably not the best comparison to make if you're trying to reassure us!

[orangecity23]

2 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

How many goals did Albrighton and Okazaki score? 

 

 

Based on Wikipedia Goals per Appearance on their LCFC runs vs Ayew at Palace:

 

Shinji = 0.1386 Goals per game

Albrighton = 0.0607 goals per game

Tete = 0.07 Goals per Game

Ayew at Palace = 0.108 Goals per Game - somewhat skewed by a 9 goal season at the beginning of his time there. Look at his stats since 2020/21 season, you get:

Ayew 20/21 to now: 0.08 Goals per Game

 

So Ayew is considerably worse than Shinji, barely better than Albrighton (who never had the chance to play as a Striker like Ayew did), about the same as Tete, and, to put it all together, he costs more than all 3 of them combined AND all 3 of them came to Leicester in their 20s, and weren't 33 years old signing a (probable) 3 year deal with zero resale value.

 

I've got no problem with BDCR on a free, sure, hard working, free transfer, no problem. Up to 8 million on a 33 year old is stupid though. We could have had Yunus for less than that, and if the only pros are occasional goal and hard work, he did do both of those things, and would have had some resale value. Could have given him a 4 year deal, so would have been less of a hit on the amortisation as well.

 

[coolhandfox]

43 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

Tete didn't work but how much did that actually cost us? We weren't lumbered with him for another three years.

 

This signing has potential to be better than Tete. It also has potential to be a lot worse. We're not covered.

Every transfer is a risk.

[frany104]

Embarrassing 

[alanf0x]

1 minute ago, Silva Fox said:

Probably not the best comparison to make if you're trying to reassure us!

Just trying to put into perspective £5 million is nothing these days!!

[coolhandfox]

Just now, orangecity23 said:

Based on Wikipedia Goals per Appearance on their LCFC runs vs Ayew at Palace:

 

Shinji = 0.1386 Goals per game

Albrighton = 0.0607 goals per game

Tete = 0.07 Goals per Game

Ayew at Palace = 0.108 Goals per Game - somewhat skewed by a 9 goal season at the beginning of his time there. Look at his stats since 2020/21 season, you get:

Ayew 20/21 to now: 0.08 Goals per Game

 

So Ayew is considerably worse than Shinji, barely better than Albrighton (who never had the chance to play as a Striker like Ayew did), about the same as Tete, and, to put it all together, he costs more than all 3 of them combined AND all 3 of them came to Leicester in their 20s, and weren't 33 years old signing a (probable) 3 year deal with zero resale value.

 

I've got no problem with BDCR on a free, sure, hard working, free transfer, no problem. Up to 8 million on a 33 year old is stupid though. We could have had Yunus for less than that, and if the only pros are occasional goal and hard work, he did do both of those things, and would have had some resale value. Could have given him a 4 year deal, so would have been less of a hit on the amortisation as well.

 

Who couldn't get a game in the championship.

 

[LCFCJohn]

29 minutes ago, Pick Good Name Later said:

I hear the argument. Surely doing this with the security of Premier league safety is the way to do this though? It’ll become significantly more difficult either in the Championsip or falling into the ‘yo-yo’ bracket. 

It’s a balance isn’t it. I get what you’re saying. And yes, of course staying up is what we need.

 

Question marks over cost aside, the Skipp signings seems very smart. Probably more than good enough for where we are at and will add plenty this season but I also think given he has signed knowing our position, he would probably stay if we go down.

 

Ayew I’m not sure. He can probably offer something this season and if we go down. It’s the whole cost and contract length stuff again.

 

By the way, as an aside point, how sad is it that football now is all conversations about wages, contact lengths, transfers fees and PSR rather than just the game. 

[Muzzy_no7]

7 minutes ago, enmac said:

According to Transfermarkt, his main position is CF.

😂😂😂

[Silva Fox]

3 minutes ago, alanf0x said:

Just trying to put into perspective £5 million is nothing these days!!

It is when we've supposedly got very little transfer budget left.

[coolhandfox]

Just now, Silva Fox said:

It is when we've supposedly got very little transfer budget left.

Who said? 

[JimJams]

He's going to be the outlet when we're desperately trying to hold onto a result I think.

In a similar way Rodgers said that Vestergaard was brought in to see games out when holding onto something, though it did seem like bullshit he essentially said he was signed to sub in to hold onto a result.

I think that's probably what Ayew is for.  If we're 1 up or like Monday, holding on for a point, then you bring on Ayew, outball, gets fouled, free kick, relieves pressure high up the pitch rather than having it come straight back at you.

 

Whether he's been signed for that niche is just speculation from me at this point.

 

 

[fox_favourite]

So have we found our Vards replacement? 

[Tuna]

8 minutes ago, frany104 said:

Embarrassing 

The reaction on here? Yeah it is

[JimJams]

1 minute ago, fox_favourite said:

So have we found our Vards replacement? 

Could be a good foil for Vardy! 2 up top.  Nugent, Ulloa and Okazaki. Nobody really prolific. 

 

 

 

This is what we call "reaching".

[Dr The Singh]

3 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

So have we found our Vards replacement? 

Im here