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[Tommy G]

49 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Some talk about starmer and a super injunction re his private life 

 

Would those who know more about the Labour Party than me like to have a guess at who would be the most likely replacement for him if he wasn’t there ??

 

 

Andy Burnham. 
 

Rayner or Wes Streeting is a nauseating thought 

[Daggers]

52 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Some talk about starmer and a super injunction re his private life 

 

Would those who know more about the Labour Party than me like to have a guess at who would be the most likely replacement for him if he wasn’t there ??

 

 

 

[Spudulike]

[kenny]

15 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Andy Burnham. 
 

Rayner or Wes Streeting is a nauseating thought 

Burnham or Streeting are the right demographic for the NEC.

[SkidsFox]

Wes Streeting is a more extreme version of Starmer. Very clever, very capable, but with huge question marks over certain deals/donations.

If Reeves has a good budget, she may be a strong contender. Burnham would be a popular choice, but is he a MP?

[st albans fox]

4 minutes ago, SkidsFox said:

Wes Streeting is a more extreme version of Starmer. Very clever, very capable, but with huge question marks over certain deals/donations.

If Reeves has a good budget, she may be a strong contender. Burnham would be a popular choice, but is he a MP?

No but that can be solved with a by election  ( he could actually be stuffed into the House of Lords and wouldn’t need to be elected an MP) 

 

echoes of a metropolitan mayor becoming PM …….

 

@Daggers was having a laugh but I reckon if jezza was on the ballot then the membership would elect him 

[Daggers]

21 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

 

@Daggers was having a laugh but I reckon if jezza was on the ballot then the membership would elect him 

Nope, his support all resigned from the party and buggered off to fvck up the Greens - there's just a handful of them left.

[HighPeakFox]

I'm a Labour voter, but I really do not care for how Wes Streeting presents himself. 

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

Andy Burnham. 
 

Rayner or Wes Streeting is a nauseating thought 

He’d need to be an MP first but Burnham would walk a leadership election imo. He’s enough of a trade off for the left and both the right of the party. His only problem is that he’s become very outspoken against the ‘Westminster’ system (which the masses would agree with) but the political class in London would destroy him for. I also think Sadiq Khan would be a good leader but that’s a non starter unfortunately. The crux is that the country needs people to give the power back to places. The next leader cannot be a Reeves/Lammy/Streeting or else I’d bleed my eyes. 

[Lionator]

30 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

No but that can be solved with a by election  ( he could actually be stuffed into the House of Lords and wouldn’t need to be elected an MP) 

 

echoes of a metropolitan mayor becoming PM …….

 

@Daggers was having a laugh but I reckon if jezza was on the ballot then the membership would elect him 

All the people that would vote for Jezza have either left or been expelled. It’s basically impossible now for a person from that sect of the left to win. 

[Lionator]

Is ‘limited ground incursion’ the new ‘special military operation’?

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Is ‘limited ground incursion’ the new ‘special military operation’?

Don't forget the words "precise" and/or "precision" in there too.

[Torquay Gunner]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Some talk about starmer and a super injunction re his private life 

 

Would those who know more about the Labour Party than me like to have a guess at who would be the most likely replacement for him if he wasn’t there ??

 

 

Any actual substance to this, or just the internet rumour mill? 

[Tommy G]

57 minutes ago, SkidsFox said:

Wes Streeting is a more extreme version of Starmer. Very clever, very capable, but with huge question marks over certain deals/donations.

If Reeves has a good budget, she may be a strong contender. Burnham would be a popular choice, but is he a MP?

Every interview I’ve seen Wes do is a bumbling stumbling chaotic meme. Educated at Cambridge so clearly isn’t thick but haven’t seen anything from him that would make him leadership material, personally. 

[Spudulike]

I didnt vote in the last election for the first time in my adult life. I just couldn't bring myself to endorse any of them. Obvious that Labour were lying, they all were.

[st albans fox]

31 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Any actual substance to this, or just the internet rumour mill? 

There can’t be any media substance to it cos I believe under the terms of a super injunction the media can’t make any reference to it. 

 

So it will only be on SM (as per boris and his daughter) 

[izzymuzzet]

The last decade has warped a lot of people's perceptions about what 'normal' Westminster politics looks like. From May 2010 to July 2024 we had maybe six months of stable, majority government (from the 2015 election to Cameron calling the EU referendum). Aside from that brief period we had coalitions, very weak PMs under pressure from their own party, major crises and a government heading towards defeat.

 

The next general election will be in 2028 or 2029. Barring ill health, Keir Starmer is more likely than not to lead the Labour party into that election. The government has a very large majority which allows it to push through its policy agenda. There will be A LOT of change but unlike the last few years this will not be in personnel but in policy.

[kenny]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

There can’t be any media substance to it cos I believe under the terms of a super injunction the media can’t make any reference to it. 

 

So it will only be on SM (as per boris and his daughter) 

Tom Tugendhats Dad is a barrister that is an expert on Super Injunctions and over-turned the one requested by John Terry.

 

Reckon its all Twitter BS, Starmer is far too straight. (Both senses of the word.)

[SkidsFox]

Learnt on another site, apparently the Civil Service had a nickname for Liz Truss - Daggers.  Short for Dagenham, ie two stages beyond Barking.

[Daggers]

36 minutes ago, SkidsFox said:

Learnt on another site, apparently the Civil Service had a nickname for Liz Truss - Daggers.  Short for Dagenham, ie two stages beyond Barking.

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Any actual substance to this, or just the internet rumour mill? 

Internet bollocks I would imagine. The Tory press and their far right minions are SO desperate to damage Labour for their own ends that the best they've come up with in 3 months is "he received donations and declared them and not a single rule has been broken but we'll stir up outrage anyway because we rely on lies to wind up our audience while ignoring the Tories doing the exact same thing"

[grobyfox1990]

You gotta wonder why political parties don't hire competent marketing and communications bods, or just normal people tbf. All this looks terribly bad on Starmer. As a voter, I agree with his policies of making the hard choices now and the softer things like cutting the winter fuel payments and a bigger push on getting people off benefits and into work. Would hope others are too, but in a world where Labour made foul about every example of Tory sleaze, it probably isn't the case 

[Zear0]

"The US has indications that Iran is preparing to "imminently" launch a missile attack on Israel, according to several news agencies.AFP cites a US official as its source, and Reuters and Axios cite separately a senior White House official. The US official reportedly tells AFP an attack on Israel would carry "severe consequences for Iran"

 

Sigh

[st albans fox]

13 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

"The US has indications that Iran is preparing to "imminently" launch a missile attack on Israel, according to several news agencies.AFP cites a US official as its source, and Reuters and Axios cite separately a senior White House official. The US official reportedly tells AFP an attack on Israel would carry "severe consequences for Iran"

 

Sigh

So yesterday we had the USA offering a running commentary on Israel preparing to enter Lebanon and today on Iran responding to recent events by targeting Israel.  I noted the Israeli spokesman mentioned yesterday evening that public comments on Israeli plans would compromise  their soldier’s safety  (surely a criticism of the USA spokesman). Can only assume that making these public comments is biden’s attempt to try and stop them from going ahead. Clumsy but likely shows how impotent the administration feel. 

[leicsmac]

37 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

So yesterday we had the USA offering a running commentary on Israel preparing to enter Lebanon and today on Iran responding to recent events by targeting Israel.  I noted the Israeli spokesman mentioned yesterday evening that public comments on Israeli plans would compromise  their soldier’s safety  (surely a criticism of the USA spokesman). Can only assume that making these public comments is biden’s attempt to try and stop them from going ahead. Clumsy but likely shows how impotent the administration feel. 

I dunno, I rather like the idea of the play by play as it might help show how foolhardy the whole thing is.

 

And if the Israelis (and the Iranians) want to whine about being rumbled on doing stupid things before they do them...well, they always have the option to, you know, not do those stupid things.

 

Pardon the rather simplistic language here but it is frustrating to see how much the major players in this matter act like children and how many innocent lives are lost because of that puerile sentiment.