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Posted
1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

I dunno, I rather like the idea of the play by play as it might help show how foolhardy the whole thing is.

 

And if the Israelis (and the Iranians) want to whine about being rumbled on doing stupid things before they do them...well, they always have the option to, you know, not do those stupid things.

 

Pardon the rather simplistic language here but it is frustrating to see how much the major players in this matter act like children and how many innocent lives are lost because of that puerile sentiment.

UNIFIL spokesman just said on CNN that his info was that incursions were limited and close to the border. Infact today Israel released videos of its forces operating inside s lebanon border area over the past months destroying Hezbollah infrastructure.  That shows Hezbollah weren’t prepared to highlight that this had been happening.(Presumably to save face.)

 

the spokesman also said that his info was that currently no forces were inside Lebanon.  It’s Jewish new year tomorrow night - I doubt Israel will want to have forces under fire until Friday so this pattern may continue. or it could use that expectation to surprise Hezbollah. 

 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

UNIFIL spokesman just said on CNN that his info was that incursions were limited and close to the border. Infact today Israel released videos of its forces operating inside s lebanon border area over the past months destroying Hezbollah infrastructure.  That shows Hezbollah weren’t prepared to highlight that this had been happening.(Presumably to save face.)

 

the spokesman also said that his info was that currently no forces were inside Lebanon.  It’s Jewish new year tomorrow night - I doubt Israel will want to have forces under fire until Friday so this pattern may continue. or it could use that expectation to surprise Hezbollah. 

 

 

That would then suggest that the incursion is indeed limited for the time being.

 

(Not sure how much this timely update has to do with the previous post, however.)

Posted
5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

That would then suggest that the incursion is indeed limited for the time being.

 

(Not sure how much this timely update has to do with the previous post, however.)

I guess I thought it perhaps illustrated that the ‘invasion’ at this stage isn’t as stupid as a full on movement of troops into s Lebanon would be and which your post alluded to.  Iran launching a fair number of ballistic missiles towards Israel would be. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I guess I thought it perhaps illustrated that the ‘invasion’ at this stage isn’t as stupid as a full on movement of troops into s Lebanon would be and which your post alluded to.  Iran launching a fair number of ballistic missiles towards Israel would be. 

Fair to say, but then I also think it's a fair argument that the whole cycle of action and reaction, revenge and counter vengeance, is stupid.

Posted
1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Fair to say, but then I also think it's a fair argument that the whole cycle of action and reaction, revenge and counter vengeance, is stupid.

Sir William Patey just on Sky News gave a very reasonable review on this situation. Will try and get a video,

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A lot of those missiles look like they're getting through and hitting don't they? Big orange glows on impact or is that just the debris landing? 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Collymore said:

A lot of those missiles look like they're getting through and hitting don't they? Big orange glows on impact or is that just the debris landing? 

I read something that Israel only

prioritise ones that they think are hitting targets. Some of the missiles will be dummies (and are aimed at baron land) so they leave them. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

USA needs to enforce a ceasefire stat. This can't continue it won't end well.

 

 

Netanyahu has time and time again ignored everything that the Americans have offered him. It’s all about personal gain at this point, fighting keeps him out of prison. American foreign policy is on the floor, they have little credibility anywhere. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Netanyahu has time and time again ignored everything that the Americans have offered him. It’s all about personal gain at this point, fighting keeps him out of prison. American foreign policy is on the floor, they have little credibility anywhere. 

I agree  with this.  Biden saying to not invade Lebanon and they ignored that. Biden says if Iran attacks Israel then he will back Israel. Like fooking clueless. Weak sauce.

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14 minutes ago, Molson Canadian said:

Trumps claim is if he wins the election as president elect, he will have the wars in ukraine/russia and israel/palestine settled and done before the first day he's in office. 

... does anyone actually believe that, or that it will happen without giving Putin everything he wants?

Posted
27 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... does anyone actually believe that, or that it will happen without giving Putin everything he wants?

Worryingly he’s got more chance than Biden has, seems to have a bit of a hold over Putin does Trump 

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So Trump is a deal maker. He’s said it many times previously that he loves making deals .. he probably could  have some influence on the Ukraine war, but the time frame would be way off. 
 

 

fhe Israel- Palestine conflict would be much tougher to solve… neither side is willing to go with a two state solution.

 

But just like every politician, they’ll say extravagant things to get elected..

Posted
2 hours ago, Collymore said:

I'm watching on Sky News. 

The C4 News had two nutters, one from each side, on tonight. The one from Iran went all Comical Ali. Laughable if it wasn't so painfully serious.

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