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grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Something I came across earlier WRT the current Biden discussion, from a "proper" leftist:

 

I never thought I'd say this, as I very much don't like the guy, but good for Joe Biden.

 

Good move, Joe. Stick it to them.

 

Personally, I don't give a **** about what Hunter Biden did. I will fully admit that haven't bothered with learning all the details, but I don't need to. Because compared to the crimes of Trump, of which he will never really be really held accountable for, anything that Hunter Biden did was akin to a kid stealing from a candy store. And the degree to which prosecuting him was a politically motivated witch hunt should be brutally obvious to anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by a red hat.

 

I can only hope that such a move isn't isolated, that maybe, just maybe, the Dems have finally learned (too little too late but still) that the "moral high ground" is ****ing meaningless when the other side is as committed to playing as dirty as the GOP does. Yes, go against your word. Meet them at their level. Stop acting as though American politics is an intramural kids' sporting league and show some ****ing teeth. It is truly the only way forward when the side committed to playing dirty is also the side that wants to destroy democracy and usher in a tyrannical religious theocracy.

 

Biden just showed his teeth for once. Let him be a guiding beacon for the rest of the party.

 

Edit: to pre-empt possible comments, posting this purely for the purpose of discussion, I don't have a good/bad take on it myself.

As per my post above, mental gymnastics to justify doing bad things by the writer. Instead of all this gumph, the gymnast should just say he's ok with abuses of power, but selective in who he condones doing them. That's fine and shows the writer is human 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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7 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

As per my post above, mental gymnastics to justify doing bad things by the writer. Instead of all this gumph, the gymnast should just say he's ok with abuses of power, but selective in who he condones doing them. That's fine and shows the writer is human 

I think the writer is emphasising exactly that.

 

Edit: I reckon that everyone has a different calculus for ends justifying means.

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Tommy G

Tommy G

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26 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Gregg Wallace, after posting about the middle-class aspect:

 

"I wasn't in a good head space when I posted it. I've been under a huge amount of stress, a lot of emotion, I felt very alone, under siege, yesterday, when I posted it.

Gregg Wallace makes statement after being told by his advisors to make a statement. Doubt he's sorry at all. 

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The Horse's Mouth

The Horse's Mouth

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9 hours ago, reporterpenguin said:

I can't work out what I think of the Hunter Biden pardon.

 

He's admitted guilt and there seems little doubt about it. However the argument that because of who his father is he has been subjected to the absolute fullest strength of the law, unlike 99% of similar cases, does hold water. The way the Republican's successfully campaigned for the plea deal to be withdrawn is also obviously partisan and done because of his name.


On a human level I completely understand it, Hunter is obviously a deeply troubled soul and as the only surviving son you can understand Joe Biden doing whatever he can to protect him, especially as it seems a lot of these legal issues have been made so much worse because of his politics. But it does wreak of hypocrisy and isn't a good look... 

 

I suppose my head thinks it's wrong, while my heart thinks it's the right thing to have done. 

With the extent of his crimes it’s likely that the fact he is a Biden is why he’s never saw prison time, so I’m not sure if that particularly holds water personally.


I think because they went after Trump as well, it would be safe to assume he might have pursued this rather than let Hillary off like he did in his first term. Isn’t Joe implicated in some of the allegations too? 
 

I think on a human level we’d all probably do the same though, Joe probably made it worse for himself by saying he wouldn’t do it. But I guess someone who’s gonna retire into the sunset probably doesn’t give a shit anyway.

 

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Sampson

Sampson

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34 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy89x13xle5o

 

Drumpf isn't going to give you a biscuit if you act the poodle, Mr Starmer. Act accordingly.

Of course I agree with him that the Tories turned their back on the world but I think realistically we are going to have to choose between the US and EU if Trump starts an economic war and gives up on Ukraine. And to me at least the only logical option is the EU, not least simply because of our geographical location and Russia’s aggression on the borders of the EU. Geography matters a lot with regards to trade and geo-politics and your neighbours are always going to be the most important.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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9 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Of course I agree with him that the Tories turned their back on the world but I think realistically we are going to have to choose between the US and EU if Trump starts an economic war and gives up on Ukraine. And to me at least the only logical option is the EU, not least simply because of our geographical location and Russia’s aggression on the borders of the EU. Geography matters a lot with regards to trade and geo-politics and your neighbours are always going to be the most important.

I can sort of understand Starmer hedging his bets here some but you're absolutely right here, and I'd add that in terms of social values, scientific policy and basic human rights the UK should align a lot more with a lot of European nations (with a few exceptions) than with the incoming US administration too.

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Sampson

Sampson

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38 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I can sort of understand Starmer hedging his bets here some but you're absolutely right here, and I'd add that in terms of social values, scientific policy and basic human rights the UK should align a lot more with a lot of European nations (with a few exceptions) than with the incoming US administration too.

I think EU/EEC, Switzerland, UK and the non-EU Balkan states are probably going to need their own defence treaty if it’s clear Trump doesn’t care about NATO anymore. I think the Cold War idea of “the west” is probably nearing its end tbh.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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10 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I think EU/EEC, Switzerland, UK and the non-EU Balkan states are probably going to need their own defence treaty if it’s clear Trump doesn’t care about NATO anymore. I think the Cold War idea of “the west” is probably nearing its end tbh.

I honestly don't know what the best way forward is on that topic.

 

Darkly humorous that the world is having to consider these decisions because a few million people who likely have never left their state decided that their eggs were a little too expensive for their own personal liking.

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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23 hours ago, Tommy G said:

I think Greg Wallace clearly in the wrong here but not sure how you can link his profession with having a moral compass that's a bit off. Granted there are billions of people that are starving but thats a wider problem than food journalism or the industry itself.

 

Have you ever returned a plate of food at a restaurant or indulged in something above the poverty line for example watching millionaire footballers owned by billionaire owners whilst other people in 3rd world countries have jumpers for goalposts.

 

You could put Gordon Ramsay, Jamie Oliver etc in the same bracket - doesn't mean they grope or sexualise women. I think that's down to something different to seasoning or thickness of a Jus. 

There's been a number of studies and investigations on sexual harassment within the hospitality/restaurant industry. My wife said when she was 16/17 waiting that the chef at that restaurant was an outright perv - his wife ran front of house but he treated the kitchen as though it was his rules/law. We have characters like Giles Cohen polluting it. We've have seen in the last couple of weeks how Heston has become a shell of man as a sufferer of ADHD & Bipolar working in a restaurant. 

 

There are deep lying issues with the industry. You are right respectful chefs don't deserve the stigma but it will happen and that's despite some major improvements with equality in the industry. 

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CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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Btw the signs were there with Gregg Wallace. Very sad that he was sexually abused as a 8 year old which has probably left long-term scars. He's on his fourth wife, the last two are at least ten years younger and were both met via twitter 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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5 minutes ago, Sly said:

Martial law declared in South Korea? 
 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/south-korean-president-yoon-suk-yeol-declares-martial-law-13266019

Yoon was always a piece of work. Didn't think he'd go this far to use and abuse his power, though - he's not even got universal support from within his own party on this one.

 

I just hope this doesn't get too bad.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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12 minutes ago, Lionator said:

This is mad! 
 

Who had South Korea collapsing before North Korea on their bingo card?

It's not like it's not home to turbulent times in all honesty - there's been a good half dozen coups before it became a full democracy and even then you can count the former Presidents that haven't ended up doing time for something on the fingers of one hand.

 

But they've mostly kept on keeping on.

Dunge

Dunge

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24 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... and pretty much his entire legislative body has essentially told Yoon to fvck off.

 

I wonder where things go from here.

He fvcks off?

leicsmac

leicsmac

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3 minutes ago, Dunge said:

He fvcks off?

It's either that or things descend into proper nastiness.

 

We'll know pretty soon I think, and thankfully it's much more likely to be the former.

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