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[Dr The Singh]

4 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Farage is doing the right thing in distancing himself from Tommy Robinson. The Tommy Robinson headbangers have nowhere to go other than Reform and if he does endorse him it could alienate millions of more moderate voters who he needs to get anywhere near winning an election. 

 

He's just made himself look pathetic by sucking up to Musk.

 

I suppose you dance with the devil you may get burned.

 

But hats off to Farage, he stuck by his guns, alot of peeps will see that as strength 

[BenTheFox]

9 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I suppose you dance with the devil you may get burned.

 

But hats off to Farage, he stuck by his guns, alot of peeps will see that as strength 

Though he's not done out of 'principle', as he claims. He's done it because of the optics. Being embarrassed by Elon Musk and not getting donations from him is nowhere near as damaging to his chances of making a serious impact at the next election as endorsing Tommy Robinson. 

[Guest Bilo]

25 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Farage is doing the right thing in distancing himself from Tommy Robinson. The Tommy Robinson headbangers have nowhere to go other than Reform and if he does endorse him it could alienate millions of more moderate voters who he needs to get anywhere near winning an election. 

 

He's just made himself look pathetic by sucking up to Musk.

 

He has done the right thing, but seems to have overestimated the decency of some of Reform's supporters. A lot of whom adore Robinson and see him as having thrown Tommy Ten Names under the bus. There's a good chance that these nutters simply do not vote now and certainly don't campaign for Reform. 

 

The more moderate voters probably aren't queuing up to vote for Farage anyway, so it's difficult to see what he gains from this other than to look, for the first time, that he actually has some principles. 

[Dr The Singh]

26 minutes ago, Bilo said:

He has done the right thing, but seems to have overestimated the decency of some of Reform's supporters. A lot of whom adore Robinson and see him as having thrown Tommy Ten Names under the bus. There's a good chance that these nutters simply do not vote now and certainly don't campaign for Reform. 

 

The more moderate voters probably aren't queuing up to vote for Farage anyway, so it's difficult to see what he gains from this other than to look, for the first time, that he actually has some principles. 

I think moderate voters aren't so moderate these are sick of our border problems, foreign aid and alot of labour policies.  Alot of people want to look 'after our own' and then save climate etc etc

[RoboFox]

Your daily reminder to fvck off Twitter. You won’t regret it.

[RowlattsFox]

Managed to avoid Musk for a long time and never really paid attention but can't go anywhere online now without seeing him or quotes from him. Why has his opinion suddenly become more newsworthy? He's really got the self-importance bug hasn't he.

 

Also, from my limited knowledge I don't think Farage really wants to actually win an election. Perfectly happy being the outsider who 'speaks for the people' but without any actual power to do anything.

Edited 6 January 2025 by RowlattsFox

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I think moderate voters aren't so moderate these are sick of our border problems, foreign aid and alot of labour policies.  Alot of people want to look 'after our own' and then save climate etc etc

That's entirely plausible.

 

It's just a shame that way of thought will lead to a truly monstrous toll of death and suffering for which they will be blamed.

[Jattdogg]

Rumours swirling last night that Trudeau might resign today, fooking hope so!

 

He needs to go. We need to focus on Canada first, get our nato spending up in line with other nations (this should be the norm as we committed to it years ago plus it's ammo for trump and our trade issues for which he wants to impose massive tariffs on us).

 

Then we can chat about how we can help others around the world (including a better approach to sustainable immigration)  in the best way possible. We do have to think bout the environment as well. A lot of complex issues impacting many countries in similar ways.

 

 

[Tommy G]

https://news.sky.com/story/business-confidence-at-two-year-low-as-tax-hikes-loom-13284385

[Dunge]

I think there’s an argument to say that the Conservatives are somehow going to come out of this Musk stuff worst. Starmer gets sympathy, plus some defence from the British public simply because he’s our democratically elected PM, regardless of whether he’s popular. Farage can say he won’t bend to the far right, although he looks silly for chasing Musk’s approval in the first place. The Conservatives had a whole attack line on Starmer planned, Musk blundered all over it and now they have no idea how to react, looking pathetically weak in the process.

Edited 6 January 2025 by Dunge

[Guest Bilo]

1 minute ago, Dunge said:

I think there’s an argument to say that the Conservatives are somehow going to come out of this Musk stuff worst. Starmer gets sympathy, plus some defence from the British public simply because he’s our democratically elected PM, regardless of whether he’s popular. Farage can say he won’t bend to the far right, although he looks silly for chasing Musk’s approval in the first place. The Conservatives had a whole attack line on Starmer planned, Musk blundered all over it and now they have no idea how to react, looking pathetically weak in the process.

Plus their refusal to unequivocally condemn Musk makes them look weak and cowardly. 

 

Kemi Badenoch is absolutely useless too, which doesn't help.

[Jattdogg]

Trudeau just resigned.  Will stay on until a new leader is selected in the coming weeks.

 

About time!

[Lionator]

2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

I think moderate voters aren't so moderate these are sick of our border problems, foreign aid and alot of labour policies.  Alot of people want to look 'after our own' and then save climate etc etc

It’s just madness that Labour somehow get the blame for all of this 🤣 they’ve been in charge for 6 months 

[henry56]

The fact the current Tory front bench  aren’t condemning the dangerous lies about Starmer and Phillips , says it all about how far they’ve fallen from common decency . 
Whatever your politics Musk is painting targets on the backs of British elected politicians with his ridiculous and vile lies . 
To remain silent while this moron undermines our national security is to be complicit . It’s bordering on treason 

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

Trudeau just resigned.  Will stay on until a new leader is selected in the coming weeks.

 

About time!

You'd think an election and change of government isn't very far behind.

 

Let's hope that if it is (as seems near certain) the Conservative one, that they're not too keen about getting into bed with the next incumbent south of the border.

[foxy boxing]

7 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

Trudeau just resigned.  Will stay on until a new leader is selected in the coming weeks.

 

About time!

Clearly didn't want to  have to deal with an incoming Trump!. 

[urban.spaceman]

starting soon:

 

 

 

[Guest Bilo]

9 minutes ago, Lionator said:

It’s just madness that Labour somehow get the blame for all of this 🤣 they’ve been in charge for 6 months 

Right-wing client press, Sissy Space X controlling the narrative on social media, voters conditioned to believe that even moderate social democracy is Stalinism and poor messaging from the Labour government are all to blame.

[Jattdogg]

7 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

You'd think an election and change of government isn't very far behind.

 

Let's hope that if it is (as seems near certain) the Conservative one, that they're not too keen about getting into bed with the next incumbent south of the border.

We are in an election year by law anyways. We are supposed to have one any time from now until latest October 2025. 

 

We have a lot of trade with the US so cant afford to go sour with them it will decimate our economy.  Very intertwined!

 

6 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

Clearly didn't want to  have to deal with an incoming Trump!. 

No, he didn't want to resign but others forced his hand. He has no problem with talking to Donald. He is more concerned about himself being the leader  then listening to the people and those in his own party.

 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

We are in an election year by law anyways. We are supposed to have one any time from now until latest October 2025. 

 

We have a lot of trade with the US so cant afford to go sour with them it will decimate our economy.  Very intertwined!

 

Which, I imagine, leads to a tricky situation when the administration running that nation exhort self interest, subservience and conflict, rather than any form of friendship.

Edited 6 January 2025 by leicsmac

[Dr The Singh]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

That's entirely plausible.

 

It's just a shame that way of thought will lead to a truly monstrous toll of death and suffering for which they will be blamed.

Yes, but Labour are not living up to their promises either.  Kier as a leader has been awful

[urban.spaceman]

17 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

starting soon:

 

 

 

As if this situation couldn't be stupider, Piers Corbyn is in attendance

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Yes, but Labour are not living up to their promises either.  Kier as a leader has been awful

Considering both the alternatives and that they've had less than a year to work, I'm inclined to give them more time for the moment.

 

NB. Especially when the philosophy one of the alternatives is so short sighted it will screw over the vast majority of people alive right now on a timetable within their own lifetimes.

Edited 6 January 2025 by leicsmac

[Robo61]

Just now, leicsmac said:

Considering both the alternatives and that they've had less than a year to work, I'm inclined to give them more time for the moment.

Amazing how some were willing to put up with the decimation of this country through 14 years of Tory rule,  but barely give a labout administration 5 minutes.  Alkso how many people have said Labour need to stop blaming the Tories,  when they were using the international banking crisis of 2008 against them only in last years election campaign.

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, leicsmac said:

Considering both the alternatives and that they've had less than a year to work, I'm inclined to give them more time for the moment.

I'm sorry pal. They had years to prepare, made loads of promises and came into power not cus they were good or even mediocre but the fact the alternatives were doggo and public wanted change, it was like 3am in the nightclub and you grab what u can.

 

The party is so in equipped, the Chancellor bullshitted her way to the role and Kier is a simple bureaucratic.  It's like giving the keys to my house to my kids because me the the Mrs are punch drunk.

 

Quicker we get rid of the jokers the quicker we can grow as a nation.