Daggers Posted 26 September 2024 Author Posted 26 September 2024 11 hours ago, MPH said: not trying to be funny, but why doesn’t your other half just leave? Better to leave on your own terms rather than you have been beaten down to a breaking point… Because: 1. Vocation 2. Hope 3. A sense of duty to the kids 4. Narrow focus of training 5. Unqualified for other roles 6. Obstacles placed to transferring skills elsewhere 7. Financial responsibilities 8. Fear 9. Conditioning 10. Routine and habit 2
leicsmac Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 6 hours ago, fox_up_north said: Putin hinting at nuclear weapon use, again. This time trying to convince himself that if Ukraine, a non-nuclear state and the victim of his attack, defends itself then it's actually "a nuclear-supported attack". Honestly, a part of me wants to see him attempt to press the button just so a dozen Russian generals refuse to do it and oust him. Responding to Putin's remarks, Zelensky's chief of staff Andriy Yermak said Russia "no longer has anything other than nuclear blackmail to intimidate the world". Tbf, that's a pretty big card still in the hand, given the consequences. The Cold War ran on that dynamic by all the bigger powers throughout, after all. Yeah, it's 99.99% likely a bluff. But what odds are acceptable for the destruction of civilisation?
ozleicester Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 12 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Responding to Putin's remarks, Zelensky's chief of staff Andriy Yermak said Russia "no longer has anything other than nuclear blackmail to intimidate the world". Tbf, that's a pretty big card still in the hand, given the consequences. The Cold War ran on that dynamic by all the bigger powers throughout, after all. Yeah, it's 99.99% likely a bluff. But what odds are acceptable for the destruction of civilisation? All a scam.. Mutually Assured Destruction mean no one will ever push the button
leicsmac Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 12 minutes ago, ozleicester said: All a scam.. Mutually Assured Destruction mean no one will ever push the button And that has held for more than 70 years now, through some more dangerous times than this, too. So it works. Thing is though, through ignorance, malice, insanity or simply pressure from natural consequences...it only has to be wrong once.
ozleicester Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 5 minutes ago, leicsmac said: And that has held for more than 70 years now, through some more dangerous times than this, too. So it works. Thing is though, through ignorance, malice, insanity or simply pressure from natural consequences...it only has to be wrong once. But noone will push it... even evidenced by "Able Archer" and "Peterov" (sp?) even when they thought they were about to be blown to smithereens... tnoone pushed the button. This (along with China) is all posturing and profits for arms dealers.
leicsmac Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ozleicester said: But noone will push it... even evidenced by "Able Archer" and "Peterov" (sp?) even when they thought they were about to be blown to smithereens... tnoone pushed the button. This (along with China) is all posturing and profits for arms dealers. Petrov was the coolest of heads in the most difficult of situations, thankfully for the world. I do hope you're right, as does everyone sane - as above, it just has to be wrong once. Edited 26 September 2024 by leicsmac
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 And to think. There's no Fallout games set in the middle east.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 2 hours ago, ozleicester said: All a scam.. Mutually Assured Destruction mean no one will ever push the button On the flipside, it enables people like Putin and Netanyahu.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 On 24/09/2024 at 19:17, Daggers said: It's got to the point that you need doctors to produce their qualifications before they save your life. Thank you for the serious conversation, I've been troubled by the flippant attitudes on here of late. Certainly before you get a free Harrods health check. 3
Dunge Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 I can’t help but think that the actions in recent years from Putin and now Netanyahu will lead to nuclear proliferation around the world. If the old order doesn’t or can’t keep the peace anymore, a new order will inevitably replace it. Not only that, but Putin seems to be set on inadvertently ushering it in. There are already strong rumours he’s helping Iran with their nuclear program as part payment for their missiles. If Iran gets nukes, Saudi Arabia won’t be far behind. South Korea and Japan might have to. If American support of Europe wanes, how long before Poland decides they need them. And Germany. Turkey wouldn’t want to be left out. Finland has a big military and long border with Russia, so how about them. Then, here’s a fun one: How about what remains of Ukraine.
leicsmac Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 18 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: And to think. There's no Fallout games set in the middle east. Alexa, play "I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire" by The Ink Spots. 1 1
Wymsey Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 Does Musk have a point here? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c756d56d2dro
MPH Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 5 hours ago, Daggers said: Because: 1. Vocation 2. Hope 3. A sense of duty to the kids 4. Narrow focus of training 5. Unqualified for other roles 6. Obstacles placed to transferring skills elsewhere 7. Financial responsibilities 8. Fear 9. Conditioning 10. Routine and habit im coming from a place having done exactly that and went through all the fears… that partner will be no good to the kids if they end up broken from it… and I obviously wasn’t suggesting to leave without another job to go to..
Guest Electric Yetis Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 16 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Does Musk have a point here? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c756d56d2dro Not opened the link but can tell you the answer is always a resounding no.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 30 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Does Musk have a point here? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c756d56d2dro By his own declaration he wouldn't come (but he probably would).
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 14 minutes ago, Electric Yetis said: Not opened the link but can tell you the answer is always a resounding no. He said that some philanthropic multi-billionaire should buy LCFC. 1
bovril Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 21 minutes ago, Electric Yetis said: Not opened the link but can tell you the answer is always a resounding no. He expressed doubts about Cooper's ability to manage at Premier League level 2
ozleicester Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 3 hours ago, leicsmac said: Petrov was the coolest of heads in the most difficult of situations, thankfully for the world. I do hope you're right, as does everyone sane - as above, it just has to be wrong once. You know better than most... there is a much bigger issue the world faces than nukes.... but apparently theres no profit in that
Greg2607 Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 5 hours ago, Daggers said: Because: 1. Vocation 2. Hope 3. A sense of duty to the kids 4. Narrow focus of training 5. Unqualified for other roles 6. Obstacles placed to transferring skills elsewhere 7. Financial responsibilities 8. Fear 9. Conditioning 10. Routine and habit I see loads of ex teachers working in Learning & Development teams as Coaches and Trainers.... if she really did want to transition out, that's the most likely route to take.
CosbehFox Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 Labour deserve plenty of stick over the acceptance of gifts (although its another debate about how they have publicly declared it & some don't) but this £20k, Starmer story really is nothing isn't it? His son stays elsewhere to concentrate on study - it WOULD HAVE made £20k if the flat was available on the market.
leicsmac Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 10 minutes ago, ozleicester said: You know better than most... there is a much bigger issue the world faces than nukes.... but apparently theres no profit in that Absobloodylutely. My worry would be that issue placing such massive pressure in terms of resources on various places that they decide to take what they want at the end of a gun rather than asking, and weaponry finishes what that issue started.
grobyfox1990 Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 19 minutes ago, ozleicester said: You know better than most... there is a much bigger issue the world faces than nukes.... but apparently theres no profit in that Are you referring to climate change??? There's unlimited profit in climate change. Example one - we have a legally binding net zero target and a serious lack of battery storage options. If you can figure that out you will be a trillionaire. The stock line of no profit in climate change is proper pre 2015 fake news. 1
Daggers Posted 26 September 2024 Author Posted 26 September 2024 17 minutes ago, Greg2607 said: I see loads of ex teachers working in Learning & Development teams as Coaches and Trainers.... if she really did want to transition out, that's the most likely route to take. Yep, there's that. I was simply replying briefly to MPH to explain why staff don't leave - the biggest one being they still enjoy the teaching aspect, it's everything else that is now a complete shag. Traditionally, the only alternatives offered up to teaching staff were either book sales rep, cold calling schools and enjoying virtually zero commission as a result, or placement officer for a supply teaching agency - another post with next to no prospects and minimal job fulfilment (leading to high turnover). It used to be easier when LEAs existed and offered up a wealth of education-related roles. Social service roles are now being promoted harder to teachers as an option to build on pastoral experience (in the past the hoop to jump was in flames, lined with razor blades and had social workers squirting acid at teachers trying to navigate the jump). The downside is that social services are now in as bad a state as education and offer equal stresses - thereby offering little incentive to swap. The best alternative for disaffected staff IMO is to teach abroad. Some regions such as the Middle East offer ridiculously good packages and the quality of life far exceeds anything UK staff experience. British and international schools abroad are growing in huge numbers now, there's a huge range of options.
Tommy G Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 26 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Labour deserve plenty of stick over the acceptance of gifts (although its another debate about how they have publicly declared it & some don't) but this £20k, Starmer story really is nothing isn't it? His son stays elsewhere to concentrate on study - it WOULD HAVE made £20k if the flat was available on the market. It conflicts with Labour stance on privilege. There are plenty of kids that will be sitting their GCSEs this last year who will of had much bigger disturbances than a few reporters outside. Off the top of my head - children where there is domestic violence in the house, children who's parents work unsociable hours to make ends meet so the 16 year old in the house turns into parents/carer, children who have no space to work or study as they share a living space with their siblings. This is an £18m flat, not some 2 up 2 down in Barnsley. Most children would go to the Library, like everyone else has to do. It becomes very much ''us and them'' and he's somehow managed to try and justify it. Maybe on it's own, it doesn't look too bad, but its on the back drop of everything else, with his own ministers smirking away whilst coming up with the most absurd excuses to why this has happened. Bring on the budget
CosbehFox Posted 26 September 2024 Posted 26 September 2024 3 minutes ago, Tommy G said: It conflicts with Labour stance on privilege. There are plenty of kids that will be sitting their GCSEs this last year who will of had much bigger disturbances than a few reporters outside. Off the top of my head - children where there is domestic violence in the house, children who's parents work unsociable hours to make ends meet so the 16 year old in the house turns into parents/carer, children who have no space to work or study as they share a living space with their siblings. This is an £18m flat, not some 2 up 2 down in Barnsley. Most children would go to the Library, like everyone else has to do. It becomes very much ''us and them'' and he's somehow managed to try and justify it. Maybe on it's own, it doesn't look too bad, but its on the back drop of everything else, with his own ministers smirking away whilst coming up with the most absurd excuses to why this has happened. Bring on the budget Complete disagree with nearly every word but won’t bore everyone with a lengthy reply. 1
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