Prem Officiating Abomination Journal 24/25

[Spudulike]

All this offside corruption, incompetence, unconscious bias stuff has over shadowed the 2-footed challenge by Ugarte on Winks. Obvious red card, wasn't it, eventhough he luckily missed him  Don't think that one of ours would've got away with that. Imagine if that was done to an Arsenal player!

[Super_horns]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I agree but then what if this was the last game of the season and we needed a point to stay up ???

Well that is why they asked for VAR I guess to avoid such situations .

 

Presumably the goal would have been ruled out?

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Well that is why they asked for VAR I guess to avoid such situations .

 

Presumably the goal would have been ruled out?

Yes - this is why all the  owners (apart from Forest and wolves) are full square behind var 

 

and of course it would 

Edited 10 February by st albans fox

[FOXSE]

9 hours ago, trabuch said:

It's shit that's why. And if VAR didn't exist this lino flags for offside imo.. They've become lazy and even more cowardly because of VAR.

Did you watch many games at old Trafford pre-var?

[ParkerPen]

34 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I agree but then what if this was the last game of the season and we needed a point to stay up ???

I hate VAR that much - no scenario will change my view on that

[st albans fox]

22 minutes ago, ParkerPen said:

I hate VAR that much - no scenario will change my view on that

I agree - maybe once fit for purpose, auto offsides can be used like goal line tech and we can dispense with var as we currently have it ??

[Vlad the Fox]

24 minutes ago, ParkerPen said:

I hate VAR that much - no scenario will change my view on that

Plus var is just as likely to screw us on a decision anyway.

[Vlad the Fox]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I agree - maybe once fit for purpose, auto offsides can be used like goal line tech and we can dispense with var as we currently have it ??

If auto offside can one day be as quick as goal line technology then that would be great.

[justfoxes]

More of the time with VAR this is the outcome especially drawing lines at strange angles !!

 

 

[Phenom]

11 hours ago, ParkerPen said:

I'd rather lose the odd points / game like this, than have VAR

Why?

[Fear Of The Fox]

10 hours ago, ParkerPen said:

I hate VAR that much - no scenario will change my view on that

The video replay system is run by the same corrupted incompetent people but at least one mile offsides like this are called via VAR. Technology isn't the issue, people using it are the problem alongside the unclear stupid new rules for handball, offside etc. 

[ParkerPen]

12 hours ago, Phenom said:

Why?

because VAR ruins the immediacy for the fans at the ground (and to a lesser extent on the telly as well)

 

I get why other people want VAR, but I dont. I also realise I'm pissing into the wind here.

[Super_horns]

28 minutes ago, ParkerPen said:

because VAR ruins the immediacy for the fans at the ground (and to a lesser extent on the telly as well)

 

I get why other people want VAR, but I dont. I also realise I'm pissing into the wind here.

TBF I don’t get why people say they don’t celebrate  instantly as they certainly seem to from what I see.

 

The players particularly still do their dancing and running around going mad occasionally .

 

Sure must be frustrating to do all that then see the goal ruled out for something minor .

 

 

Edited 11 February by Super_horns

[Chelmofox]

16 minutes ago, ParkerPen said:

because VAR ruins the immediacy for the fans at the ground (and to a lesser extent on the telly as well)

 

I get why other people want VAR, but I dont. I also realise I'm pissing into the wind here.

To be fair, there has been less of it this season as there has been more focus on sticking with the on field decision. This has actually led to the problem in reverse where a number of times i've felt a decision should have been overruled but hasn't as they have kept with the refs call. At the time these were painful but in reality i would sooner that happened.

 

And we actually got that amazing moment when Vardy's goal vs West Ham was given. Lino put the flag up immediately so no one celebrated at the time.

 

I support VAR but actually only want it used for 'absolute' decisions quickly. I'm less interested in challenges being slowed down and reviewed from every angle and really just want the automated offsides and goal line tech. I never want to see the theatre of the 'lines being drawn' ever again.  I would happily support retrospective punishments for onfield decisions missed (how about a 1 game ban for Ugarte - he wouldn't be doing that again if that happened).

[messerschmitt]

On 10/02/2025 at 10:14, st albans fox said:

I agree but then what if this was the last game of the season and we needed a point to stay up ???

Needing a point to stay up on the last day of the season would be a dream.

[FrankieADZ]

Oliver last night was a bit crap again, imagine my shock

 

oh and more great news

also where is the apology from the pgmol?

[davieG]

"Semi-Automated Offside Technology will provide more efficient placement of the virtual offside line, based on optical player tracking, and produce virtual graphics to ensure an enhanced in-stadium and broadcast experience for supporters," the FA said.

 

What part of the players body is being tracked and used for this, I'm sure it can't be the leather on their toecaps.

[Ashley]

2 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

Oliver last night was a bit crap again, imagine my shock

 

oh and more great news

also where is the apology from the pgmol?

Should it be successful? 

 

Are they ****ing kidding? It's been used in the Champions League, World Cup and European Championships. 

 

We've got technology that actually works and works quick(other than the Haaland decision) 

 

Should it be successful what an actual joke 😂😂

[st albans fox]

30 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Should it be successful? 

 

Are they ****ing kidding? It's been used in the Champions League, World Cup and European Championships. 

 

We've got technology that actually works and works quick(other than the Haaland decision) 

 

Should it be successful what an actual joke 😂😂

It’s not the same as those though Ashley.  They all use adidas which has a chip in the ball to establish exactly when the ball is struck and to freeze the 3D imaging. (Patented tech) 
PL has Nike balls, fa cup is mitre -  so I assume that the var still has to pinpoint the frame that the ball is struck and the tech then takes over from there. Not as accurate and will take longer. Imo it’s bollux because the freeze frame is unreliable and the 3D tech will give offside for a mm.   So whilst we have quicker decisions (not as quick as those comps you mentioned) I am certain we’ll have incorrect decisions based on the freeze being inaccurate. 

 

 

[Ashley]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It’s not the same as those though Ashley.  They all use adidas which has a chip in the ball to establish exactly when the ball is struck and to freeze the 3D imaging. (Patented tech) 
PL has Nike balls, fa cup is mitre -  so I assume that the var still has to pinpoint the frame that the ball is struck and the tech then takes over from there. Not as accurate and will take longer. Imo it’s bollux because the freeze frame is unreliable and the 3D tech will give offside for a mm.   So whilst we have quicker decisions (not as quick as those comps you mentioned) I am certain we’ll have incorrect decisions based on the freeze being inaccurate. 

 

 

Fair enough but it's actually bollocks that the technology isn't readily available. Should be used across all manufacturers. 

 

[st albans fox]

9 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Fair enough but it's actually bollocks that the technology isn't readily available. Should be used across all manufacturers. 

 

Thats business 

fair play  to adidas

 the next PL ball deal should end up being adidas but I bet that Nike give the PL a brilliant deal to keep it with them and we will suffer second class offside calls as a consequence 

[justfoxes]

On 10/02/2025 at 21:27, Fear Of The Fox said:

The video replay system is run by the same corrupted incompetent people but at least one mile offsides like this are called via VAR. Technology isn't the issue, people using it are the problem alongside the unclear stupid new rules for handball, offside etc. 

it’s the PGMOL, FA & EPL they implement these aids that are supposed to take out the cheating or dodgy decisions but they have the same dodgy officials making the same Bullschitt dodgy decisions taking control of VAR and getting it totally wrong, I’m all for VAR if it is used correctly but these incompetent Tw@y W⚓️s have not a clue how to use the system to its potential!

Edited 14 February by justfoxes

[justfoxes]

20 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

Oliver last night was a bit crap again, imagine my shock

 

oh and more great news

also where is the apology from the pgmol?

They apologise to everyone one else but LCFC !

[Bert]

Another one that bowed down to a big 6 club. Fell for it every time when they got touched and they were whinging like little bitches. Even gave them a free kick because their fans screamed for it. Not booking Partey for clearing out Vardy on a break but books Ayew for the same thing. 

[Tommy Fresh]

6 minutes ago, Bert said:

Another one that bowed down to a big 6 club. Fell for it every time when they got touched and they were whinging like little bitches. Even gave them a free kick because their fans screamed for it. Not booking Partey for clearing out Vardy on a break but books Ayew for the same thing. 

Not booking Partey was the only stand out for me, thought he was giving soft fouls both ways