Jeremy Monga

[coolhandfox]

Whilst I get it from a financial point of view.

 

At 16 his going to disappear into Man City and go back to playing academy games.

 

Bellingham went somewhere he could continue play senior football.

 

Maybe he should have a look what happened to Tyrese Noubissie.

Edited 20 December 2025 by coolhandfox

[pmcla26]

15 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Whilst I get it from a financial point of view.

 

At 16 his going to disappear into Man City and go back to playing academy games.

 

Bellingham went somewhere he could continue play senior football.

 

Maybe he should have a look what happened to Tyrese Noubissie.

I disagree, Monga is going to the top. He’ll play wherever he signs. 

Edited 20 December 2025 by pmcla26

[honeybradger]

40 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Whilst I get it from a financial point of view.

 

At 16 his going to disappear into Man City and go back to playing academy games.

 

Bellingham went somewhere he could continue play senior football.

 

Maybe he should have a look what happened to Tyrese Noubissie.

He should also have a look at this forum and see that he is being likened to Demarai Gray among our fans, who received a very cold reception when we faced Birmingham. Ironically Gray would be our top scorer this season and has been one of the best players in  the league.

 

We are the worst fanbase I am aware of when it comes to skilful players, Mahrez was slated every time he didn't score or assist, Demarai Gray's treatment was genuinely just weird, Maddison gets blamed for our relegation despite being our only player up to standard that season.

 

Now Monga, who is already one of the best dribblers in the championship at 16 and has a goal and assist to his name is getting the "i thought he'd be better treatment". He's been good this season, as good as we could expect him to be considering his age and the form of the team when he came into it.

[Collymore]

14 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Maddison gets blamed for our relegation

Tbf, it's very rare that you can pin something as big a s relegation on one player but that penalty miss really did mean we were relegated because of it. 

 

Danny Ward someone else you could say confidently was an individual cause for relegation, but over a longer period. 

Edited 20 December 2025 by Collymore

[Collymore]

Is Monga back in the squad today? 

[honeybradger]

7 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Tbf, it's very rare that you can pin something as big a s relegation on one player but that penalty miss really did mean we were relegated because of it. 

 

Danny Ward someone else you could say confidently was an individual cause for relegation, but over a longer period. 

Maddison got 10 goals 9 assists that season.

 

He might genuinely have had the best season of any player playing for a relegated side, i cant think of any better. You simply cannot blame him for us going down.

[Collymore]

8 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Maddison got 10 goals 9 assists that season.

 

He might genuinely have had the best season of any player playing for a relegated side, i cant think of any better. You simply cannot blame him for us going down.

I agree with what you're saying but when it's comes down to a single moment like Southgate, Gerrard slip, Baggio etc it's impossible not to link the loss with that moment despite how good they may have been previously. 

[Sly]

14 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Maddison got 10 goals 9 assists that season.

 

He might genuinely have had the best season of any player playing for a relegated side, i cant think of any better. You simply cannot blame him for us going down.

Andy Johnson scored 21 when Palace went down. 

Izzet for 16 Goals and assists in 30 games when we were relegated on 03/04 has the most assists at 14 for a relegated player. 

[Sunbury Fox]

23 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Tbf, it's very rare that you can pin something as big a s relegation on one player but that penalty miss really did mean we were relegated because of it. 

 

Danny Ward someone else you could say confidently was an individual cause for relegation, but over a longer period. 

I was always a big fan of Maddison, a truly brilliant technical player, but I also feel that missed pen was in the end a crucial factor in our relegation as it was against our direct rival and would have put us 3-1 up with the last kick of the first half, making it very likely we would have won that game. Had we won that game, we would have stayed up.

Edited 20 December 2025 by Sunbury Fox

[Ric Flair]

42 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Is Monga back in the squad today? 

Yes but Silko will come on before him 😂

[sm1]

Monga is a victim of Marti's gameplan where our wingers have 2/3 players on them when they get the ball. Under a better coach, he'd have more then 1 goal and assist.

[DAS Boot]

54 minutes ago, Collymore said:

I agree with what you're saying but when it's comes down to a single moment like Southgate, Gerrard slip, Baggio etc it's impossible not to link the loss with that moment despite how good they may have been previously. 

The relegation did not come down to one moment.

 

Whilst that penalty could have made a difference, we wasted so many other opportunities that season.

 

The relegation was on the cards from the opening day when 2-0 up at home on the hottest day of the year to Brentford, the poison dwarf refused to make any subs, squandered the lead and went on to blame the weather.

 

Rogers was a ***** for downing tools but i’m getting less and less mad at him as time passes and we see what King Power are doing to us.

[Donwebbio]

Rather than blaming a player for missing a penalty, I would rather blame the relegation on the manager who simply gave up around Feb time and those above him who didn't act to replace him. 

[Vowels]

The strong word is that he signs the pro contract and there is a gentleman's agreement or perhaps even something a little stronger alongside it that allows him to explore options to move on for a fee.

 

I would like to think we'd build in a year on loan back even though we'd be developing another team's player.

 

Don't shoot the messenger and the sources aren't top level, but they've always been accurate before. Basically fairly common knowledge.

[1972 Fox]

10 minutes ago, Donwebbio said:

Rather than blaming a player for missing a penalty, I would rather blame the relegation on the manager who simply gave up around Feb time and those above him who didn't act to replace him. 

Agree almost totally, although the manager gave up well before February.

 

I will never forget the shocking and telling performance against Newcastle at home. First game after the WC break when we just laid down from the 1st minute, whereas they came out firing and the game was over after 15 mins.

[HP1]

4 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

Agree almost totally, although the manager gave up well before February.

 

I will never forget the shocking and telling performance against Newcastle at home. First game after the WC break when we just laid down from the 1st minute, whereas they came out firing and the game was over after 15 mins.

This. Rodgers gave up in August on day 1 against Brentford, and was already trying to get sacked to save his brand.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Sunbury Fox said:

I was always a big fan of Maddison, a truly brilliant technical player, but I also feel that missed pen was in the end a crucial factor in our relegation as it was against our direct rival and would have put us 3-1 up with the last kick of the first half, making it very likely we would have won that game. Had we won that game, we would have stayed up.

Can you look at it that cleanly ? 
certainly would have made things easier but to make an absolute statement doesn’t take other events afterwards into account based on that outcome 
 

[Richmondfox]

2 hours ago, honeybradger said:

He should also have a look at this forum and see that he is being likened to Demarai Gray among our fans, who received a very cold reception when we faced Birmingham. Ironically Gray would be our top scorer this season and has been one of the best players in  the league.

 

We are the worst fanbase I am aware of when it comes to skilful players, Mahrez was slated every time he didn't score or assist, Demarai Gray's treatment was genuinely just weird, Maddison gets blamed for our relegation despite being our only player up to standard that season.

 

Now Monga, who is already one of the best dribblers in the championship at 16 and has a goal and assist to his name is getting the "i thought he'd be better treatment". He's been good this season, as good as we could expect him to be considering his age and the form of the team when he came into it.

He would have produced a lot more and been even better with a LB behind him who passed the ball higher up and into space and someone other than Ayew to play off of.  All he got was scraps at best, the ball to his feet on the halfway line standing still with little to no support.  He still managed to embarrass seasoned cloggers.  He has shown he can shoot on target from the edge of the box, wish we saw the team play him into those positions more often.

 

I can't wait to see him once he crafted his skills with an attacking manager and players.  

[Ric Flair]

34 minutes ago, Vowels said:

The strong word is that he signs the pro contract and there is a gentleman's agreement or perhaps even something a little stronger alongside it that allows him to explore options to move on for a fee.

 

I would like to think we'd build in a year on loan back even though we'd be developing another team's player.

 

Don't shoot the messenger and the sources aren't top level, but they've always been accurate before. Basically fairly common knowledge.

I was also told this two months ago and why he is likely to be used only sparingly for the rest of the season. He hasn't really been involved much since to be honest. Man City, whom we have a good relationship with.

[niyaminski]

IF Monga is leaving at the end of this season and his mind is already made up (which is what a lot on here think), I don’t understand why we should be playing him over someone such as Silko or Evans.

 

Let’s face it, we’re not going up. The odd few points Monga could win us over someone like Silko won’t mean much.

 

So as long as we’re not in danger of relegation, surely the priority this season should be on building a competitive squad for next season.

[slymunn]

2 hours ago, honeybradger said:

Maddison got 10 goals 9 assists that season.

 

He might genuinely have had the best season of any player playing for a relegated side, i cant think of any better. You simply cannot blame him for us going down.

Theres a few players you can compare to, not based on names but what the achieved.

 

Scott Parker was FWA Footballer of the Year for a team that finished bottom.

 

Charlie Austin and Andrew Johnson both scored about 20 goals when they went down.

 

Id also mention Muzzy when we went down in 2004. 

[Chelmofox]

9 minutes ago, niyaminski said:

IF Monga is leaving at the end of this season and his mind is already made up (which is what a lot on here think), I don’t understand why we should be playing him over someone such as Silko or Evans.

 

Let’s face it, we’re not going up. The odd few points Monga could win us over someone like Silko won’t mean much.

 

So as long as we’re not in danger of relegation, surely the priority this season should be on building a competitive squad for next season.

Agree, and actually as this all sounds like its from decent sources, im not really fussed if i see him play again really.

 

We bemoan when the senior players dont want to be here, so im not going to celebrate a youth player who has no interest.

 

Would have hoped for a bit more class from him than being seduced by Man City at a young age. Goes there and there is a strong risk we never hear much from him again.

[honeybradger]

We will get a better value for Monga the more we play him. Keeping him on the bench vs a full season of being second choice left wing could be the difference between a £5mil transfer and a £15mil transfer (and a healthy sell on clause).

 

As much as I would like us to bed Evans in the priority has to be getting as much value from Monga as possible.

[coolhandfox]

3 hours ago, honeybradger said:

He should also have a look at this forum and see that he is being likened to Demarai Gray among our fans, who received a very cold reception when we faced Birmingham. Ironically Gray would be our top scorer this season and has been one of the best players in  the league.

 

We are the worst fanbase I am aware of when it comes to skilful players, Mahrez was slated every time he didn't score or assist, Demarai Gray's treatment was genuinely just weird, Maddison gets blamed for our relegation despite being our only player up to standard that season.

 

Now Monga, who is already one of the best dribblers in the championship at 16 and has a goal and assist to his name is getting the "i thought he'd be better treatment". He's been good this season, as good as we could expect him to be considering his age and the form of the team when he came into it.

No player should be reading a fans forum.

 

 

Edited 20 December 2025 by coolhandfox

[Noahfence]

He could probably stay here another 3 seasons and still have a whole list of elite clubs desperate to sign him