Money Is The Root Of All Evil

[Parafox]

Is it?

 

It might seem obvious in these modern times but has it always been the same?

 

Money and wealth can do good, but throughout history so much suffering and conflict is caused by the desire for money.

 

Does wealth create true satisfaction?

 

Most people would love to be rich, with no worries about being able to afford a nice lifestyle, but what does it really bring?

 

 

 

 

[leicsmac]

18 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Is it?

 

It might seem obvious in these modern times but has it always been the same?

 

Money and wealth can do good, but throughout history so much suffering and conflict is caused by the desire for money.

 

Does wealth create true satisfaction?

 

Most people would love to be rich, with no worries about being able to afford a nice lifestyle, but what does it really bring?

 

 

 

 

I don't think money is the root of all evil, but I do think money is the most popular and easiest route to the root of all evil, which is seeking and exercising nonconsensual power over people. Money does by that power easily and often.

 

There are though instances of money and power it buys being used for good and altruistic ends.

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

I don't think money is the root of all evil, but I do think money is the most popular and easiest route to the root of all evil, which is seeking and exercising nonconsensual power over people. Money does by that power easily and often.

 

There are though instances of money and power it buys being used for good and altruistic ends.

 

I was thinking, as I was posting the topic, that there is good and bad. 

 

My question really is, does the bad outweigh the good? It seems that generosity of some very wealthy individuals goes with doubt. What about the wealth of oligarchs and others with wealth to influence policy and direction of governments?

 

 

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

I was thinking, as I was posting the topic, that there is good and bad. 

 

My question really is, does the bad outweigh the good? It seems that generosity of some very wealthy individuals goes with doubt. What about the wealth of oligarchs and others with wealth to influence policy and direction of governments?

 

 

Current evidence would suggest the bad outweighs the good, that's not in doubt IMO.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Misquote.

 

"The love of money is the route of all evil."

 

Or essentially, greed. So yeah, pretty much. Apart from psychosis.

[joachim1965]

Money can't buy happiness.

But it buys you a better kind of misery.

[Izzy]

I'm not money rich but I'm time rich, and that's fine by me.

 

I know a few wealthy people, some are happy but some are far from it. I don't think money always buys you happiness but it can buy you freedom and choice. Although some of the happiest people I know are skint.

 

I think most people want to be rich because of the positive feelings and emotions it can give them, but many of these are short lived (experiencing a nice holiday, driving a fast car etc.) That's often just instant gratification, not a deep sense of peace of mind.

 

I'm not sure I agree money is the root of all evil but I'd say the need for power and greed is.

 

P.S. All the money in the world is irrelevant if you're too ill to enjoy it. Health over money every time.

[Parafox]

Unfortunately, no amount of money would solve my problems, at least not the deep rooted ones.

[Soar Fox]

Money & religion are the root of all evil. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, Izzy said:

I'm not money rich but I'm time rich, and that's fine by me.

 

I know a few wealthy people, some are happy but some are far from it. I don't think money always buys you happiness but it can buy you freedom and choice. Although some of the happiest people I know are skint.

 

I think most people want to be rich because of the positive feelings and emotions it can give them, but many of these are short lived (experiencing a nice holiday, driving a fast car etc.) That's often just instant gratification, not a deep sense of peace of mind.

 

I'm not sure I agree money is the root of all evil but I'd say the need for power and greed is.

 

P.S. All the money in the world is irrelevant if you're too ill to enjoy it. Health over money every time.

When you have a lot, you have that nagging fear that someone will take it away.

 

Re your PS I'm pretty sure you'll find, on average, wealthy people live longer than poor people on account of better health care. I was going to say better diet, but probably being able to afford a personal trainer to work off that rich food is a more important factor.

 

Then again, you get people on a Mediterranean diet and lifestyle living into their 100s frequently and too rather humble living east Asians. They usually seem quite content too, probably the right balance.

 

The truly poor, I'm thinking Africa, south Asian and in general indigenous people living in ex-colonial lands, probably rarely live past their 40s.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, joachim1965 said:

Money can't buy happiness.

But it buys you a better kind of misery.

It can't buy you love, but it can buy you a lady of negotiable affection.

[Daggers]

Everyone not liking the idea of money, please send yours to my PayPal - [email protected]

 

I absolutely guarantee it won’t be used for evil. Hell, I wouldn’t be allowed to say that in the email address otherwise because of laws and stuff. It will be used for the complete opposite of evil. 

[nnfox]

Greed is generally the root of all evil.  Not money.  In fact, there's a lot more good in the world because of money.

 

Imagine what would happen if you removed all the money from the world...  Pretty sure evil would still exist.

[leicsmac]

19 minutes ago, nnfox said:

Greed is generally the root of all evil.  Not money.  In fact, there's a lot more good in the world because of money.

 

Imagine what would happen if you removed all the money from the world...  Pretty sure evil would still exist.

Yeah, lust for power plays into it a lot.

 

However it's best not to overlook that money is the medium that lust for power is most often achieved by.

[leicsmac]

[Fox92]

In the words of Bob Dylan "money doesn't talk, it swears".

[Otis]

In the words of Neil Diamond. 

 

"Money talks, But it don't sing and dance and it don't walk."

[Vowels]

Knopfler got his money for nothing and his chicks for free. He seemed happy enough.

 

 

[hejammy]

Morals - or the lack of - is the root of all evil

[dsr-burnley]

1. St Paul actually said that "love of money is the root of all evil".  I think the misquote is often deliberate so it can be used against the rich.

 

2. He was wrong anyway.  Neither money, nor love of money, is responsible for most sexual assaults, for example. 

[coolhandfox]

People........

 

 

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, dsr-burnley said:

1. St Paul actually said that "love of money is the root of all evil".  I think the misquote is often deliberate so it can be used against the rich.

 

2. He was wrong anyway.  Neither money, nor love of money, is responsible for most sexual assaults, for example. 

But lust for power over people, which money can and does buy, is.

 

Would, for instance, Al Fayed have gotten away with the multitude of abuses of power he carried out if he didn't have the power, through money, to keep them hidden?

[dsr-burnley]

14 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

But lust for power over people, which money can and does buy, is.

 

Would, for instance, Al Fayed have gotten away with the multitude of abuses of power he carried out if he didn't have the power, through money, to keep them hidden?

At its most basic, if there has ever been a rape that did not make money for the perpetrator, then the proposition fails. 

 

Love of money is at the root of a lot of evil.  Love of power, ditto.  But not all.  And for that matter, Fayed didn't commit all those abuses to make money or because he loved money, he committed them because he loved abusing women.  Money just made it easier but it wasn't the cause.

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

At its most basic, if there has ever been a rape that did not make money for the perpetrator, then the proposition fails. 

 

Love of money is at the root of a lot of evil.  Love of power, ditto.  But not all.  And for that matter, Fayed didn't commit all those abuses to make money or because he loved money, he committed them because he loved abusing women.  Money just made it easier but it wasn't the cause.

No disagreement there, money itself isn't the issue, power is, which money can facilitate.

 

Abuse of power, treating other people as things, is the root of all evil, imo.

[boots60]

The below is the root of all evil, its the bloody serpents fault.

 

God fashions Adam from dust and places him in the Garden of Eden. Adam is told that he can eat freely of all the trees in the garden, except for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Subsequently, Eve is created from one of Adam's ribs to be his companion. They are innocent and unembarrassed about their nakedness. However, a serpent convinces Eve to eat fruit from the forbidden tree, and she gives some of the fruit to Adam. These acts not only give them additional knowledge, but also give them the ability to conjure negative and destructive concepts such as shame and evil. God later curses the serpent and the ground. God prophetically tells the woman and the man what will be the consequences of their sin of disobeying him. Then he banishes them from the Garden of Eden.