Next Manager

[Clever Fox]

4 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yeah well Cooper took a shambles of a team from bottom and got them promoted and the. Kept them up. Think they are quite senior. 

True, but he had about 40 new players to pick from and it was a late run that saved them. We know what happened here. He failed miserably.

[fox_favourite]

17 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

True, Corberan went to 14s now back to 6/1, still means nothing.

This is my take as well

[fazzyfox]

15 minutes ago, CUJimmy said:

The market is going to be very volatile because not much money will be going into it.  Even a relatively small amount on one person can have a big impact on the odds.

Shall we all stick a quid on Nuno Santo, get some popcorn and watch the fireworks 

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

WBA have scored very few home league goals this season and at the minute are drawing a lot (1 win in 10 I think it is). Our fans would want him out as do, if you look at their forum, some of their fans.

 

Cooper got two different teams into the play offs. Swansea haven't even been in the play offs since.

Guardiola has lost 5 in a row.

 

Huddersfield finished 20th in his first season there, they finished 3rd the season after so obviously in the play offs(with Ward in goal) and were probably a better refereeing performance away from going up against Cooper's Forest. They tapered off again but continually lost their best players each season, been nowhere near then since and got relegated.

 

At West Brom in 22/23, he joined when they were rock bottom, 2 wins, 8 draws, 7 losses. They went on to finish 9th - under Corberan they won 16, drew 4 and lost 9 (may have miscalculated here as they had a caretaker for a few games).

 

In the summer of '23 they had to rely on frees and loans, £0 spent because their owners don't give a toss. Lost two players for about £8m. They went on to finish 5th in the play offs

 

Spent marginally more this season, circa £4m but still sold £5m. Currently 6, 8, 2 and on course for the play offs.

 

He's done a remarkable job at WBA, their squad is full of championship cast offs like McNair, Jed Wallace, Daryl Dike etc. The most impressive thing about him is his preferred playing style is much more expansive but through circumstance he's made Huddersfield and WBA really hard to beat. Actual pragmatism.

[Clever Fox]

3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Good coaches don’t always make good mangers 

I totally agree, But it's a good place to start. Enzo is a great Coach and now proving a great Manager. Pearson an average Coach but a great Manager.

 

Funnily most of the great Managers have come from modest backrounds. lower league careers or even no previous football career like some.

[Rusko187]

I can get behind Van Nistlerooy, bit of a gamble no doubt but so was Enzo. He has a profile which will attract some talent and some experience which was successful.

 

Would top my week off if we binned off Rudders and Van Nistlerooy got his mate Van Der Sar in as DoF!

[Ricey]

RVN is a risk. I know King Power love a manager that “knows the league”, but a few months as coach, 2 PL matches as caretaker and a playing career from 20 years ago doesn’t mean you know the league. It’s barely worth talking about.

 

If we are going to take a gamble on someone without an extensive experience in this country, we might as well look further afield at the long list of attainable foreign managers.

[Kitchandro]

I think it will be RVN. And I think he wouldn’t even be on the shortlist if he hadn’t been managing Man U for a few games very recently. Our board are genuinely that simple. The main reason they hire anyone is some sort of (usually recent) familiarity with the league or club, no matter how basic or unsuccessful. Most our managers have fit into that category.

 

 

[rugbyblue]

16 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Good coaches don’t always make good mangers 

Quite right, i wouldn't put the baby jesus in lee carsley 

[HankMarvin]

8 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I totally agree, But it's a good place to start. Enzo is a great Coach and now proving a great Manager. Pearson an average Coach but a great Manager.

 

Funnily most of the great Managers have come from modest backrounds. lower league careers or even no previous football career like some.

Wouldn’t be in my top 5, too much of a punt for a club that drastically need to avoid relegation and the issues that might bring.

[Stadt]

My order of preference for the vacant managerial role at Leicester City Football Club (I've just caught up on the thread ).

 

Schmidt - unlikely any decision makers have heard of him

Corberan

RVN

Carsley

Moyes/Potter

 

[izzymuzzet]

Someone's updated his Wiki page.

[DJW1]

They could appoint Vardy, then he wouldn´t be able to moan or rant (or not so much). If things went badly he could have a word with Top and get himself sacked.

[kingfox]

Ruud seems like the type of guy who’d tell Wout Faes that he’s shit to his face. 
 

Gerrimin! 

[Babylon]

19 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

True, but he had about 40 new players to pick from and it was a late run that saved them. We know what happened here. He failed miserably.

As opposed to Carsley having the entire country to choose from 

 

We know what he did here, the point was National youth games aren’t really a good barometer. 
 

He could be amazing, he might not. It’s a massive massive punt. 

[Stadt]

Betting odds

Wiki page edited

Dubious twitter source 

 

The holy trinity of absolute new manager wank

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, Stadt said:

Betting odds

Wiki page edited

Dubious twitter source 

 

The holy trinity of absolute new manager wank

You're right. We need to hear from Sean from Enderby to be 100% sure

[HitchinFox]

Not sure why Carsley is in the equation.

 

He is all about developing young players, hates the limelight and isn't great at setting teams up from a tactical point of view. 

 

Trying to get our squad to battle for points in each game and the amount of media work required would probably be his worst nightmare. 

[HankMarvin]

15 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Guardiola has lost 5 in a row.

 

Huddersfield finished 20th in his first season there, they finished 3rd the season after so obviously in the play offs(with Ward in goal) and were probably a better refereeing performance away from going up against Cooper's Forest. They tapered off again but continually lost their best players each season, been nowhere near then since and got relegated.

 

At West Brom in 22/23, he joined when they were rock bottom, 2 wins, 8 draws, 7 losses. They went on to finish 9th - under Corberan they won 16, drew 4 and lost 9 (may have miscalculated here as they had a caretaker for a few games).

 

In the summer of '23 they had to rely on frees and loans, £0 spent because their owners don't give a toss. Lost two players for about £8m. They went on to finish 5th in the play offs

 

Spent marginally more this season, circa £4m but still sold £5m. Currently 6, 8, 2 and on course for the play offs.

 

He's done a remarkable job at WBA, their squad is full of championship cast offs like McNair, Jed Wallace, Daryl Dike etc. The most impressive thing about him is his preferred playing style is much more expansive but through circumstance he's made Huddersfield and WBA really hard to beat. Actual pragmatism.

Hadn’t both West Brom and Huddersfield both been in the prem up to a few seasons before his appointment. So whilst both teams might have been underperforming, they were still attracting a fairly good calibre of player due to the parachute payments compared with other teams budgets?

[HankMarvin]

Just now, HitchinFox said:

Not sure why Carsley is in the equation.

 

He is all about developing young players, hates the limelight and isn't great at setting teams up from a tactical point of view. 

 

Trying to get our squad to battle for points in each game and the amount of media work required would probably be his worst nightmare. 

Appears to be Linekers punt that had gained some traction 

[Jakemoore]

Some of you don’t seem to know that RVN had a relatively successful year at PSV last season. Some of the comments make it seem like RVN has had 4 games as manager and that’s it..

[Molson Canadian]

2 minutes ago, HitchinFox said:

Not sure why Carsley is in the equation.

 

He is all about developing young players, hates the limelight and isn't great at setting teams up from a tactical point of view. 

 

Trying to get our squad to battle for points in each game and the amount of media work required would probably be his worst nightmare. 

Limelight - Rush

 

Great song. Great BAND

[Mickyblueeyes]

How and when was Lee Carsley ****ing linked ???

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Hadn’t both West Brom and Huddersfield both been in the prem up to a few seasons before his appointment. So whilst both teams might have been underperforming, they were still attracting a fairly good calibre of player due to the parachute payments compared with other teams budgets?

Huddersfield were one of the worst PL sides ever tbh and barely spent after going down 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/huddersfield-town/alletransfers/verein/1110

 

At WBA the owners are shit and he's barely had a penny aside from reinvesting after sales 

[Clever Fox]

3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Wouldn’t be in my top 5, too much of a punt for a club that drastically need to avoid relegation and the issues that might bring.

They are all a risk. Look at how much Utd and Chelsea have waisted on so called top Mangers. And yet Enzo has Chelsea sitting 3 presently.

Another thing I've learned in life the older you get you lose some of the enthusiam for the job. Sven, Mourinho and others.

 

What youger Manger tend to bring is enthusiam and committment while they're learning.  like Arteta and others.

 

It's always a gamble, but it has to be a well researched and record led gamble.