Do we have a sense of entitlement?

[adam95581]

We are entitled….entitled to have a manager who is able to operate at a level that makes us competitive in the premier league.
 

Entitled to have a manager who focuses and fixes our deficiencies rather than bemoaning officials each week. 
 

Entitled to watch a team who give it a go for 90mins rather than getting going once we’ve gone a goal behind. 
 

If this is what it means to be entitled then yeah, we are entitled…

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Its an interesting question and one that can be levied at all football fans when their club has this kind of situation.

 

Now is wanting Leicester City to be in the top 10 every season and challenging for cups and European titles entitled?  No.  It's aspirational.  Is demanding it and if it doesn't arrive sacking the manager?  Yes.  So which is the case here?  On this occasion it's actually neither.  All we have had is an unfortunate set of circumstances thrust upon us by the departure of Maresca.

 

Now having hired Cooper, should they have given him more time?  Maybe but what would have been the point?  Let's be honest here.  His last year at Forest wasn't exactly improving.  In fact, once they settled down from the multiple signings, they got worse under Cooper, hence his sacking and despite the step up in league, we have declined at an alarming rate under him so why let it go on for longer than it needs to?

 

The lack of nuance thinking coming from pundits and commentators is ridiculous and forms part of the problem that modern football suffers from.

 

Basically you stay in your lane.  Don't dare to sit anywhere other than the back of the bus or forever hold your peace.

 

The truth is, all those pundits who are having are pop are basically saying, 'Ok lads.  You've had your fun.  Now leave it to the big boys'.  Villa will get the same treatment in a couple of years.

 

 

[lfu]

4 minutes ago, HitchinFox said:

I've no idea where this is coming from and why anyone in their right mind would think this? 

Never loved? I beg to disagree. 

We only started to fall out of love during the summer of his petulant comments – then the idiotic and petty decisions re. who to play and where (and who to leave out). By the time he finally got sacked, he was hated – but only through his own actions, which seemed to suggest he wanted us to go down just to prove a point. 

 

I mean, there was a big chunk of the fanbase who never loved him (I include myself in this to a degree). His prior "season three syndrome" at Liverpool and general David Brent-ness being among the reasons why. But until the relegation season at least they definitely backed him as our manager and would've been disappointed had he been poached by Arsenal or Man Utd or the likes

[KFS]

This is why this **** jumped to Celtic in a previous era and now we’ve nicked their manager and are generally a bigger brand.

 

don’t listen to him

[Vazman]

We are no different than any other fan base, we want to be up there and mixing it in the Prem.   

[Pliskin]

Every clubs fanbase in the PL is the same. 

[Big_Nige]

The word itself means an unjustified feeling about deserving certain advantages or privileges. So no I don’t think we’re entitled at all.

 

What has happened is we probably hold the club to a higher standard now than what a lot of older pundits, or footballers of a bygone generation, do

 

End of the day in the past decade we have won the league, the fa cup, community shield, played in Europe 3 times and regularly make it to quarter finals of cup competitions. Surely that is enough to expect a little more than just to make up the numbers? 
 

When Villa and Newcastle got relegated and bounced back up nobody would have expected their fans to just be happy to be in the Prem again. What’s the difference? 

[Dahnsouff]

We are entitled to know where the frick Ruud is, so yeah why not...

[SecretPro]

17 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

Well I have 'followed the club closely' foe the last 4 or 5 years.... observing absolute meltdowns at not finishing in the top 4 twice, and calling for the managers head whilst top of the championship. Definitely a loss of perspective at the bare minimum.

Point 1 - you need some context with that, we were in the top four literally all season both times until the last few games

 

Point 2 - Those people were just the 'lump it forward' dinosaur brigade.

Edited 28 November 2024 by SecretPro

[fox_favourite]

Doesnt all clubs fans feel a sense of entitlement for something?

 

We want our club to be successful. If people have watched any of our games then they would know we were tripe

Edited 28 November 2024 by fox_favourite

[Skidmark]

Not at all. 

 

The club is not what it used to be. Expectations change with success. 

 

We are not a small club in the midlands anymore. Look at the last decade. 

 

Martin O'Neill's completely misjudged the fanbase here, annoyed a few of us and showed us all how out of touch he is with the club. He'll pop back into the limelight again when he's got a new book to flog. 

[Lambert09]

it’s frustrating how many people have come up to me and acted like we are lunatics for sacking him and where do we expect to be. But our fans wanted him gone from pre-season, everyone could see it wasn’t working.  If Enzo had stayed, even if we’d been rock bottom, if the philosophy was still there and the players were fighting for him I wouldn’t have been demanding a change.

 

Steve cooper made the club worse, he wasn’t improving anything and was undoing good work by his predecessor. At the end of the day, these opinions don’t matter but it’s annoying trying to explain that i’m not demanding us to finish higher than 17th. 

 

 

[Nalis]

It's almost as if success changes your expectations isn't it?

[sm1]

O'Neil like most other media people, base their opinion on 2 things, league position and the fact that we're perceived to be a yoyo club. They can't understand that a club with the 7th highest wage bill shouldn't be relegated. Apparently it was the fans entitlement that got Rodgers sacked, not his own inadequacies. This season we're not in the relegation zone yet, so we should be happy with Cooper. We're playing the worse football in the PL, something even Merson admitted, but in the same breath said we shouldn't sack Cooper. That's the thinking process, you're shit but you should be happy with being shit.

[urban.spaceman]

Absolutely ****ing not.

 

**** off.