Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[ronnup]

26 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

There’s a clear method of play, you can see what Ruud is trying to do, whereas with Cooper you couldn’t, it was just pure chaos….. we’ve stemmed the amount of chances that we are conceding on goal for sure. We’re losing games by tight margins…. First half against Palace we were by far the better side, and Vardy puts his chances away we could have been 2-0 up. We know all too well how fine margins define results at this level…… I do see similarities with this side and the great escape side, the problem is the current mood around the club is horrific, and I think we all see the situation as more of a disaster and turned in to more of a crisis than it actually is. Don’t get me wrong, the situation is far from ideal, but we’re 2 points from safety…

 

Context is massive, and we’ve got to appreciate we were off to a bad start, we hired the only manager who would probably take the job, we were hamstrung by potential PSR issues, which had a major impact on signings, and we’ve ended up swinging between three styles of play all within a matter of months. 
 

I think Ruud has steadied the ship, and I’d say we are as a group more cohesive than we were under Cooper and like I said, there’s more of a style about us. Unfortunately we lack quality in key areas of the pitch which is why we are victims to the fine margins. We’ve got poor defence and a 38 year old leading the line……. 

Tight margins? That's not really true is it when you look at the results/score lines 

[squidsworth]

I think we are about exactly the same as the great escape season in terms of points from games at this stage? 14 from 21? Could be wrong. We still had another shite 7 or 8 games from this point gaining only a few pts in the great escape before that heroic run of 7 wins from 9 seen us comfortably safe. If we can just pick up a couple of wins and draws in the next 8 or 9 hopefully we're better off and not needing great escape part 2, just a bit of form. 

Today maybe last chance to suggest we can avoid needing great escape 2 though.  Tottenham away, Everton away (massive one) then Arsenal home. We need the points today, for confidence as well as just needing them, heading into these next games. Can't see us getting anything from those 3 if we finish empty handed today.

So let's hope RVN can work some magic, starting today. I'm optimistic, for another 3hrs 45 mins I'd think!!

[JimJams]

I like that Ruud has come in and has a clear structure and plan for the way he wants us to play.

I'm not convinced that structure is optimal.  I'm less convinced it's optimal for the players we have and their levels.

For me this system requires our fullback to arguably be the best player in your team.  They play as an RB when defending and basically transition into an RW with the ball, with the "on paper" RW moving inside as a midfield player.  So that requires a level of ability at both ends of the park. You need a good (great) engine, you need pace, and you need the ability to be effective at both ends of the pitch.  You either need to be able to beat a man or put in a good ball.  Consistently.  I think there's a massive expectation on the fullback in this system.  Others may disagree.  In Enzos system both fullbacks made different transitions. One to LCB one to DM/CM.  Far easier to do, with a lot less expectation on those players.  When the ball is turned over it's also far easier to cover and change.

Maybe Woyo is in to replace JJ, or maybe he's in to sub in for when JJ will inevitably be blowing out of his arse.

 

But if this is how he wants to play I prefer this to whatever the fxxk Cooper was serving up.  His "style" seemed to disappear about 3 games into preseason and ended up being sit back and hope to get lucky.  Which we did a few times tbf, but it's a depressing watch and unsustainable.

[Pliskin]

43 minutes ago, ronnup said:

Tight margins? That's not really true is it when you look at the results/score lines 

Recent score lines? 
 

3-1 Liverpool

0-2 Man City

2-1 Villa 

0-2 Palace….

 

So they’re thrashings are they? 

 

[JimJams]

I like your style.

[ronnup]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Recent score lines? 
 

3-1 Liverpool

0-2 Man City

2-1 Villa 

0-2 Palace….

 

 

J

Ignoring Newcastle and Wolves 😂

 

Also, do you think getting beat by 2 clear goals is close? 

 

You're absolutely bending over backwards to prove something , you'll pull a muscle with all this reaching

[SkidsFox]

4 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I am not in charge but if it was my club, my restructure would be as follows on the footballing side, remove the role of DoF and replace as follows. 

 

Technical Director - takes responsibility for setting strategic direction, sports science, technical analysts and how the academy interlinks with the first team and creating a genuine pathway. 
 

Head of Recruitment - agrees the profile of players with Technical Director and Head Coach and heads up the scouting department 

 

Head of Football Administration - has responsibility for negotiating transfers and player contracts following input from Technical Director, Head of Recruitment and Head Coach and working with the finance team to navigate PSR compliance 

 

Head Coach - responsible for first team management and coaching 

 

Now if we do get relegated I really can’t see Ruud hanging around to manage us in the championship especially if he feels he has been thrown under the bus by Rudders and Top. So this represents an ideal opportunity to refresh. 
 

For me I would look to the following people who know the club and would potentially help set us up the right way for sustainable success and create a succession plan and strategy for the future.

 

Technical Director - Either of Pearson or Puel would be superb in this role 

 

Head of Recruitment - Bring back Steve Walsh or Macia, both have a proven track record of recruiting top drawer players and unearthing some real gems. Both can work equally well with small or decent budgets 

 

Head of Football Administration - Recruit a top level executive with a demonstrated history of negotiating contracts etc, finance & administration within a sporting environment. 
 

Head coach - I would be happy with any of the following Danny Rohl, John Eustace who are both doing great jobs at clubs that have basket case ownership and challenging environments to work in. Also add to that Tom Cleverly who is doing good things as Watford who are also a difficult club to work at, my out of the box appointment would be Richie Wellens who has done really good things at Leyton Orient taking them up from league 2 and now challenging for play offs in league 1, whilst playing some decent football. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd love to see Puel here as Head of Recruitment. Suspect he wouldn't want to come back though after the way he was sacked last time.

[HarryDee8]

Why does he keep playing soumare, he goes missing in defensive duties

 

We need to shut up shop today and some how close the leaky defence and nick a 1-0

 

Still playing the liabilities at the back aswell 

Edited 18 January by HarryDee8

[Guy]

3 hours ago, squidsworth said:

I think we are about exactly the same as the great escape season in terms of points from games at this stage? 14 from 21? Could be wrong. We still had another shite 7 or 8 games from this point gaining only a few pts in the great escape before that heroic run of 7 wins from 9 seen us comfortably safe. If we can just pick up a couple of wins and draws in the next 8 or 9 hopefully we're better off and not needing great escape part 2, just a bit of form. 

Today maybe last chance to suggest we can avoid needing great escape 2 though.  Tottenham away, Everton away (massive one) then Arsenal home. We need the points today, for confidence as well as just needing them, heading into these next games. Can't see us getting anything from those 3 if we finish empty handed today.

So let's hope RVN can work some magic, starting today. I'm optimistic, for another 3hrs 45 mins I'd think!!

The trouble is we haven't got a Mahrez, Huth, a peak Albrighton or Vardy or an Argentinian duo in Cambiasso and Ulloa to dig us out of our present hole at the mo. - nor indeed Schmeichel in goal as per Great Escape season 10 years ago! We have a 38 year old Vardy instead, Skipp in midfield and two players here for their late pension pay out in BC Reid and Ayew - not to mention a fragile defence with their solid no.1 still missing in action still after x amount of weeks through injury! In short I'd be amazed if we stay up, despite only still somehow being two points from safety after six straight defeats and scoring two goals, mainly due to the poor quality of the teams in and around us too. The context of that may change a little if we win today (highly unlikely) and results go our way - but I guess it remains the hope that kills you!  

Edited 18 January by Guy

[moore_94]

Needs to sack off this tactic of the winger coming inside and the full back being a winger

 

It was shite when Cooper did it and it is still shite now

[JimJams]

14 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Needs to sack off this tactic of the winger coming inside and the full back being a winger

 

It was shite when Cooper did it and it is still shite now

We just don't have the calibre of player to do it and it's a lot more difficult to do against superior, or even level opposition.

[Sunbury Fox]

22 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Needs to sack off this tactic of the winger coming inside and the full back being a winger

 

It was shite when Cooper did it and it is still shite now

Couldn't agree more. It might work if you have Cafu at RB but we certainly don't have anyone of that calibre in the squad.

[Ian Nacho]

24 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Needs to sack off this tactic of the winger coming inside and the full back being a winger

 

It was shite when Cooper did it and it is still shite now

I suppose it would help if we had any half decent wingers to start with. 

[LFox99]

26 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Needs to sack off this tactic of the winger coming inside and the full back being a winger

Thing is, we've got **** all personnel on the right to get to the line. Ayew isn't capable of it, nor is Bobby

[iFoxes]

we are dog sh!t

[iFoxes]

Wout Faes can gtfo wherever he wants

[Brooksy]

7 losses in a row. Surely if we lose the next few hes gone?

[ronnup]

 a disaster 

[cityfanlee23]

Danny Rohl in NOW. 

[Kitchandro]

Today has been pitiful.

 

Are there mitigating circumstances? Yes. But he’s not getting anything out of these players. 

[FoxesWalk]

Cooper is a better manager than RVN, and neither are good enough for this level, and there is no manager available that would keep this awful squad in the premier league, with the long term injuries we have any glimmer of a chance was snuffed out. 

[Noahfence]

I think hiring a guy simply because he beat us twice in the cup probably wasn’t the best of decisions 

[Leicester_Loyal]

Disaster of an appointment, yet again. 
 

Dyche or preferably Rohl in the Champ next season please. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Wow his subs are consistently absolutely terrible 

[tickler28]

Time to go