This fckin Dawson

[Lambert09]

I seriously think the caretaker should always just be an ex player. Bring in some club legend for a game or 2 and the players always up their games. 

 

If kingy took charge of this, the fans would be pumped and i’d bet my life the performance would have been better 

[CrazyKopCorner]

One game only but if you met him you’d have to stop yourself from punching him on the nose. What a complete and utter fuching plank 

[Paninistickers]

4 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

It's just a weird thread to slag him off for changing the system and personnel

That's just totally wrong dude. Absolutely wrong.

 

The clue is in the name of the job.. Care. Take. 

 

Any changes needed to be reintroducing  senior players who Cooper had alienated. Not a root and branch destruction and rebuild inside four days. 

 

[TamuffFox]

20 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Dawson. Just let that name sink in. Dawson. Daaawwwsssonnn. Breathe in. Absorb. 

 

Leet. Lewis. Eccles (iykyk). Dawson. 

 

Edit to add Pat Gavin. Again, those of the Pleat years will know. 

Luigi Glombard, Steve Holden, Mike Trotter, Sasha Lenhardt....

[TheUltimateWinner]

I don’t blame everything on Rudkin…

 

But if we hadn’t of sacked our longstanding backroom staff a couple of seasons ago we wouldn’t have had to rely on one of Coopers mates staying on after Cooper had been sacked…

[Claudio Fannieri]

Wonder if he already knows he will be replaced and just thought feck it I am going out in a blaze of glory 

[funkyrobot]

Dawson should do the decent thing after that game. Resign and then drive to the nearest police station and hand himself over to the authorities. He should do a fair old stretch for that crime against football. 

[Parafox]

2 hours ago, Ricey said:

It’s a horrible lineup, but it’s pretty normal for a caretaker to try something different.

 

The problem is that he has terrible defenders at his disposal. is a very poor coach. As we have seen for the last 13 games.

 

[Paninistickers]

1 minute ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

I don’t blame everything on Rudkin…

 

But if we hadn’t of sacked our longstanding backroom staff a couple of seasons ago we wouldn’t have had to rely on one of Coopers mates staying on after Cooper had been sacked…

The unwarranted shite Stowell used to take on here. 

 

Decent fella, unbiased to whoever the current manager was and whose main function was basically to provide some continuity, some LCFC culture and a bit of soul to the place. And he did. 

 

Adam Sadler wasn't cut out as caretaker but had worked his way up through the ranks, again in isolation of Rodgers. 

 

 

 

 

[Parafox]

4 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Wonder if he already knows he will be replaced and just thought feck it I am going out in a blaze of glory 

 

Failed, big time.

[Parafox]

17 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

That's just totally wrong dude. Absolutely wrong.

 

The clue is in the name of the job.. Care. Take. 

 

Any changes needed to be reintroducing  senior players who Cooper had alienated. Not a root and branch destruction and rebuild inside four days. 

 

 

I remember the days when a caretaker swept the gym floor at school and did occasional checks on the plumbing.

[Wolfox]

I believe the term is WUM…

 

I have no idea what that means, but it seems appropriate 

[Chrysalis]

2 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

Thomas has looked fine in honesty - no worse than Kristiansen - but persisting with Justin and Faes is inexcusable at this point.

Ruud if he has any cajoles will drop the pair of them on Tuesday.

You are aware we basically have no midfield most games as we dont have the quality, so the defence is getting constantly pounded, so blaming defenders for that is a bit off.

 

Curious who the 5/6 first teamers are, and remembering it is a squad game.  I guess, vesty, mavididi, kristiansen, skipp and maybe el khannouss, thats 2 and and a 3 maybe who have been in and out.

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

No hyperbole. I think that was the worst managerial performance ever. Worse than Taylor. Staggering. It's a stain on our history. We'll never forget today I suppose. 

In a hundred years time people will ask why Leicester people say ‘I’ve had a right fkin Dawson today!’ when they’re describing a self inflicted absolute nightmare of a day.
 

Hopefully a historian will dust off this thread and explain that it originated from a prized shithouse plonker called Benny Dawson and his 5 at the back shame in the year of our lord 2 thousand and 24. 

[inckley fox]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

No hyperbole. I think that was the worst managerial performance ever. Worse than Taylor. Staggering. It's a stain on our history. We'll never forget today I suppose. 

Weirdly, I don't think the three at the back, or the two surprise inclusions, were a major problem. Relatively speaking.

 

You could criticise him for failing to address the Faes-Justin issue, but maybe the alternatives were a bit too adventurous for a caretaker. You could question Ayew's role. The lightweight midfield. And you could question the lack of pace for potential counters.

 

But I thought he was very professional when he saw the game had gone away from us, and brought off our only two attackers who'd posed a threat, allowing the new manager to have a fit squad at his disposal in the week.

 

If the new boss favours a 4-2-3-1 then you could argue that a switch in shape only days before his debut isn't helpful, but I'm not sure it's for a caretaker to research his successor's methods. And I doubt he'd had any input which had gone unheeded from Ruud.

 

Honestly, I'd love to see root-to-branch change at the club, from players to remaining coaches to recruitment to football and financial operations at boardroom level, but I can more or less understand some of the decision-making today. Individually awful performances and poor application were bigger issues than management, and I sincerely hope that the new boss has a mandate to keep some of these half-arsed incompetents who'd undermined the previous manager on a very short leash. And I hope we're more patient than we were with Cooper, because these guys aren't worldbeaters who were being held back by an inept manager, as some have maintained. It's one of the poorest KP-era squads.

 

If we end up on 18-22 points, I wonder how history will reflect on Steve Cooper's time with us, the hatred of him, and the decision to fire him. Unless things drastically improve under Ruud, that's a likely scenario.

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

Weirdly, I don't think the three at the back, or the two surprise inclusions, were a major problem. Relatively speaking.

 

You could criticise him for failing to address the Faes-Justin issue, but maybe the alternatives were a bit too adventurous for a caretaker. You could question Ayew's role. The lightweight midfield. And you could question the lack of pace for potential counters.

 

But I thought he was very professional when he saw the game had gone away from us, and brought off our only two attackers who'd posed a threat, allowing the new manager to have a fit squad at his disposal in the week.

 

If the new boss favours a 4-2-3-1 then you could argue that a switch in shape only days before his debut isn't helpful, but I'm not sure it's for a caretaker to research his successor's methods. And I doubt he'd had any input which had gone unheeded from Ruud.

 

Honestly, I'd love to see root-to-branch change at the club, from players to remaining coaches to recruitment to football and financial operations at boardroom level, but I can more or less understand some of the decision-making today. Individually awful performances and poor application were bigger issues than management, and I sincerely hope that the new boss has a mandate to keep some of these half-arsed incompetents who'd undermined the previous manager on a very short leash. And I hope we're more patient than we were with Cooper, because these guys aren't worldbeaters who were being held back by an inept manager, as some have maintained. It's one of the poorest KP-era squads.

 

If we end up on 18-22 points, I wonder how history will reflect on Steve Cooper's time with us, the hatred of him, and the decision to fire him. Unless things drastically improve under Ruud, that's a likely scenario.

That's a fair and generous post of you. And i do agree about the subbing of Buonnotte. The only vaguely professional thing Dawson did today. 

 

We have managed to nick ten points this season. Don't overcomplicate as caretaker. 

 

Look up some stats. when have we played well? Who played on them days? Who does the miles? Who puts their foot in? ....and as far as possible, play the most predictable performers. 

 

He left at least four - and possibly six -  predictable performers on the bench. And one off the bench completely. 

 

 

 

 

[Skidmark]

Les Dawson would have done better today. 

[Unabomber]

48 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I seriously think the caretaker should always just be an ex player. Bring in some club legend for a game or 2 and the players always up their games. 

 

If kingy took charge of this, the fans would be pumped and i’d bet my life the performance would have been better 

I agree. Today just give it to Vardy and let him do what he wants. To set up that defensively and go on to produce our worst defensive performance of the season is mind blowing. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

The issue is like Cooper who was nothing more than a PE teacher, Dawson is a supply teacher who is expected to come in, inspire, and organise a premier league professional football team, with negative, boring and unimaginative tactics and tactical set up, this is in the result of the club hiring yes men rather than people like Enzo who challenged the players and board for the highest standards, at least with Ruud he will bring in proper experienced top level coaches and he will raise the expectations at all levels of the club. 
 

The appointments in the summer stink of certain people protecting there position by not wanting another Enzo to expose the shortcomings. 
 

Really think Ruud will have a clear out and Rudders will also be on his radar to up his game or I think he will be placing demands on Top to bring in a DoF fit for a premier league club with world class training facilities. 

[accessory]

1 hour ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

I don’t blame everything on Rudkin…

 

But if we hadn’t of sacked our longstanding backroom staff a couple of seasons ago we wouldn’t have had to rely on one of Coopers mates staying on after Cooper had been sacked…

It was Maresca who wanted them binned.  

 

Don't remember an uproar on here, or anywhere else, when Sadler and Stowell were given the push.

 

In fact, the words "good" and "riddance" came readily to mind, especially after the mess they made of the Bournemouth and Villa games.

 

The Bournemouth match - a must-win game in which we barely managed a shot and conceded the softest of winners - was every bit as dire as the dross we saw today.

[Paninistickers]

13 minutes ago, accessory said:

The Bournemouth match - a must-win game in which we barely managed a shot and conceded the softest of winners - was every bit as dire as the dross we saw today.

It was dire yes. And a wasted chance. But you have to admit that they chose not to rock the boat. It wasn't their place to. Frustrating. But I can see the logic. Prep the team. Send them out. 

 

Today was entirely different. A wholesale tactical change and drafting in two players who were unable to even make a championship side. 

 

As for the good riddances for Stowell and Sadler. I agree. I wasn't one of those voices. I appreciated them both. But I get ya. 95% of posters were very cruel about both. 

 

Edit; link to oast comments re Stowell and Sadler ...

 

 

 

Edited 30 November 2024 by Paninistickers
Stowell

[MrsJohnMurphy]

2 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I seriously think the caretaker should always just be an ex player. Bring in some club legend for a game or 2 and the players always up their games. 

 

If kingy took charge of this, the fans would be pumped and i’d bet my life the performance would have been better 

Could you imagine if Pearson had come back for a couple of games  

[kyleolly]

2 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

One game only but if you met him you’d have to stop yourself from punching him on the nose. What a complete and utter fuching plank 

It’s not really his fault the bloke was a coach at Newcastles youth team before he came to us and then thrown in at the deep end to manage a premier league game Top should take the blame for either not getting Ruud in quick enough or not having a more experienced interim coach.

[Paninistickers]

1 minute ago, kyleolly said:

It’s not really his fault the bloke was a coach at Newcastles youth team

Sorry, but it WAS his fault.

 

He simply isn't qualified (and probably not authorised) to oversee and implement a major tactical and personnel shift - let alone to do so in five days of coaching. 

 

 

 

[les-tah]

1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

The issue is like Cooper who was nothing more than a PE teacher, Dawson is a supply teacher who is expected to come in, inspire, and organise a premier league professional football team, with negative, boring and unimaginative tactics and tactical set up, this is in the result of the club hiring yes men rather than people like Enzo who challenged the players and board for the highest standards, at least with Ruud he will bring in proper experienced top level coaches and he will raise the expectations at all levels of the club. 
 

The appointments in the summer stink of certain people protecting there position by not wanting another Enzo to expose the shortcomings. 
 

Really think Ruud will have a clear out and Rudders will also be on his radar to up his game or I think he will be placing demands on Top to bring in a DoF fit for a premier league club with world class training facilities. 

We are so badly run it’s honestly the same as dinner lady being the head chef in a michelin star restaurant.