King Power Out

[Dames]

2 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

I remember the days when I mentioned we had to sell KDH when Brentford put that bid in two years ago and then arguing with the fella in Norway that we were ****ed on PSR. 

 

If I could see how this was going to play out two years ago, how the **** couldn't those pair running this football club see it? 

The PSR issues have been going on since Rodgers last season and the fact those issues are still happening 3 years later is unforgivable. 

[Stadt]

4 minutes ago, Dames said:

The PSR issues have been going on since Rodgers last season and the fact those issues are still happening 3 years later is unforgivable. 

The worst thing is the overspending was bad in purely a sporting sense - we broke limits to get worse. Chelsea, Villa, Forest have flown too closely to the sun but they bought lots of good players. 
 

We’ve failed it and spent hundreds of millions on wages on shit players 

[oz was my hero]

5 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I would ask anyone who is defending KP, Top and Rudkin and backing them to turn this around, on what evidence are you suggesting this could actually happen? 
 

Many hide behind PSR as the reason for our demise, this is absolute nonsense, yes it has made it more difficult to correct our poor decision making  but make no mistake PSR did not make us spend reckless amounts in terms of wages to the likes of Daka, Soumare, Bertrand and Vestergaard in a season where we decided to break our model and not sell one of our Crown Jewels. 
 

PSR did not negotiate the ridiculous contract extension and termination clauses that we included for Rodgers that made it almost impossible to sack him without leaving us with a massive financial liability. 
 

PSR did not cause us to be relegated with a squad including Riccy P, JJ, KDH, Jonny Evans, Soyuncu, Youri, Casatagne, Wilf, Madders.Barnes, Vardy etc 

 

PSR didn’t select Danny Ward and Daniel Amartey as starters that season. 
 

After the relegation and the start of the PSR breaches, this heirarchy decided to double down and offer ridiculous contracts to Harry Winks and Conor Coady, then on promotion spunked large wages and in some cases paid well over the odds on  fees for the likes of Skipp, Ayew, BDCR, Eduaord etc etc

 

Our managerial selections are nearly all agent driven, we show minimal evidence of any long term strategy or planning in terms of our managerial targets, the majority of appointments have been scattergun and very little evidence of any continuity. 
 

our player recruitment is now like our managerial recruitment, it has become a patchwork quilt of a squad made up of heavily influenced manager selections. We were one of the real innovative clubs in terms to recruitment and our model and this was ripped by, you know who, Top and Rudkin to appease Rodgers and to absolutely disastrous effect. 
 

Then the treatment of fans, so many decisions, strategy and decisions have been taken with minimal regard for the impact to supporters, the heartbeat of the club, various sponsorship deals with dubious crypto / betting companies, more and more decisions regards ticketing arrangements that are slowly alienating the legacy fanbase and to top it off when we do experience success, the fans are shunted behind daytrippers and VIP guests with little or no affiliation or affection to the club. 
 

Finally the lack of communication, they are to quote their own words ‘custodians’ of our club and yet the strategy is to close ranks, share very minimal interaction and information treating the fanbase with utter contempt, distain and lack of respect. This will always be our club, our city and yet slowly but surely we are becoming more and more detached from the club. We are treated as 2nd class citizens despite being supposedly a family, it makes me smile when people preach togetherness and yet we are treated like we are a burden to the club rather than the lifeblood. 
 

This is why the feeling has grown so strongly against the current administration of the club, we stand on the edge of financial meltdown which could see us descend to league 1 …. 5 years after winning the FA Cup Final and successive top 5 finishes in the premier league, every week the news that comes out would suggest things are only getting worse and more critical, the leaders have demonstrated they are not capable of turning this around, so I ask anyone still supporting KP, Top and Rudkin to provide genuine evidence and reasons as to why they should not be held responsible & accountable for our rapid decline and why any of them deserve any element of trust that they will turn this around. 

None.of them will give you any reason. Been on the Facebook  pages arguing my points you get rid of kp. All the responses have been calling me anything  from pathetic to a knuckle dragging imbecile. Yet not 1 response with their reasons apart from the usual , after all kp have done for the club.  

[Claudio Fannieri]

11 minutes ago, oz was my hero said:

None.of them will give you any reason. Been on the Facebook  pages arguing my points you get rid of kp. All the responses have been calling me anything  from pathetic to a knuckle dragging imbecile. Yet not 1 response with their reasons apart from the usual , after all kp have done for the club.  

Absolutely, not one response to my post with any reasons or justification as to why they could turn this around. 

[BenTheFox]

32 minutes ago, oz was my hero said:

None.of them will give you any reason. Been on the Facebook  pages arguing my points you get rid of kp. All the responses have been calling me anything  from pathetic to a knuckle dragging imbecile. Yet not 1 response with their reasons apart from the usual , after all kp have done for the club.  

Just imagine if the club had been taken over by completely new ownership in November 2018 and things had gone exactly the same way since (including the FA cup win and the two fifth place finishes). The anger towards the ownership that had overseen the decline would be far greater.

 

I've seen many of them make the argument that "at least we're not Sheffield Wednesday" when it's entirely possible that we could go the way of Sheffield Wednesday. 

 

 

Edited 2 January by BenTheFox

[foxile5]

Isn't there a video of the older KP generation literally throwing punches to defend the honour of Top? 

[oz was my hero]

12 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Just imagine if the club had been taken over by completely new ownership in November 2018 and things had gone exactly the same way since (including the FA cup win and the two fifth place finishes). The anger towards the ownership that had overseen the decline would be far greater.

 

I've seen many of them make the argument that "at least we're not Sheffield Wednesday" when it's entirely possible that we could go the way of Sheffield Wednesday. 

 

 

Sure we are closer to that than people realise.  Have said this before the season started.

[john ridley]

Nothings going to hit home with KPFC till we've  had the points deduction, in the bottom 3 and quite  possibly  relegated with massive debts playing to a half empty  stadium by which time administration will seem the easiest  way out .Seeing if they want to back them then?

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

41 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Just imagine if the club had been taken over by completely new ownership in November 2018 and things had gone exactly the same way since (including the FA cup win and the two fifth place finishes). The anger towards the ownership that had overseen the decline would be far greater.

 

I've seen many of them make the argument that "at least we're not Sheffield Wednesday" when it's entirely possible that we could go the way of Sheffield Wednesday. 

 

 

Great point.
 

I wonder how many give Aiyawatt a free pass because they feel sorry for him.

[Dreadnought]

5 hours ago, Osavo said:

No one, I imagine. Why even bother having a Company Secretary? They probably got confused with the new Companies House ID checks. 

The new ID checks are overdue for the directors!

[BenTheFox]

29 minutes ago, john ridley said:

Nothings going to hit home with KPFC till we've  had the points deduction, in the bottom 3 and quite  possibly  relegated with massive debts playing to a half empty  stadium by which time administration will seem the easiest  way out .Seeing if they want to back them then?

It's funny. I remember the last home game of the 07/08 season against Sheff Wednesday. We had not yet been relegated to League 1 but people were rightly furious that it looked like we were going down to the third tier for the first time in our history. People in the family stand were literally throwing their season tickets on the pitch and many were furious with Mandaric. This was after four years of the club struggling in the second tier. I genuinely think if we go down to League One at the end of this season we won't see the same level of anger from the wider fanbase. The mind boggles. 

Edited 2 January by BenTheFox

[john ridley]

Your probably  right,all they'll  say is,it's only our 2nd time in our history.....🤣🤣

[Soar Fox]

39 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

It's funny. I remember the last home game of the 07/08 season against Sheff Wednesday. We had not yet been relegated to League 1 but people were rightly furious that it looked like we were going down to the third tier for the first time in our history. People in the family stand were literally throwing their season tickets on the pitch and many were furious with Mandaric. This was after four years of the club struggling in the second tier. I genuinely think if we go down to League One at the end of this season we won't see the same level of anger from the wider fanbase. The mind boggles. 

Since 2016 we have picked up quite a few new fans who have only ever known King Power owning the club. They have only shown an interest in the club in the past 10 years due to our success.
 

We will have 5000/10000 people in the stadium that probably don’t even know that we were in league one. 

[SecretPro]

12 minutes ago, Soar Fox said:

Since 2016 we have picked up quite a few new fans who have only ever known King Power owning the club. They have only shown an interest in the club in the past 10 years due to our success.
 

We will have 5000/10000 people in the stadium that probably don’t even know that we were in league one. 

We have about 15,000 in the Stadium who still don't even know who Rudkin is. Probably about 12,000 who aren't even interested in football either. 

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, BenTheFox said:

It's funny. I remember the last home game of the 07/08 season against Sheff Wednesday. We had not yet been relegated to League 1 but people were rightly furious that it looked like we were going down to the third tier for the first time in our history. People in the family stand were literally throwing their season tickets on the pitch and many were furious with Mandaric. This was after four years of the club struggling in the second tier. I genuinely think if we go down to League One at the end of this season we won't see the same level of anger from the wider fanbase. The mind boggles. 

You don't think this current reign are very intelligent? 

 

They've forced season tickets into digital form precisely so we can't throw them onto the pitch. Forward thinking and progressive leadership. 

[jayfox26]

8 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I would ask anyone who is defending KP, Top and Rudkin and backing them to turn this around, on what evidence are you suggesting this could actually happen? 
 

Many hide behind PSR as the reason for our demise, this is absolute nonsense, yes it has made it more difficult to correct our poor decision making  but make no mistake PSR did not make us spend reckless amounts in terms of wages to the likes of Daka, Soumare, Bertrand and Vestergaard in a season where we decided to break our model and not sell one of our Crown Jewels. 
 

PSR did not negotiate the ridiculous contract extension and termination clauses that we included for Rodgers that made it almost impossible to sack him without leaving us with a massive financial liability. 
 

PSR did not cause us to be relegated with a squad including Riccy P, JJ, KDH, Jonny Evans, Soyuncu, Youri, Casatagne, Wilf, Madders.Barnes, Vardy etc 

 

PSR didn’t select Danny Ward and Daniel Amartey as starters that season. 
 

After the relegation and the start of the PSR breaches, this heirarchy decided to double down and offer ridiculous contracts to Harry Winks and Conor Coady, then on promotion spunked large wages and in some cases paid well over the odds on  fees for the likes of Skipp, Ayew, BDCR, Eduaord etc etc

 

Our managerial selections are nearly all agent driven, we show minimal evidence of any long term strategy or planning in terms of our managerial targets, the majority of appointments have been scattergun and very little evidence of any continuity. 
 

our player recruitment is now like our managerial recruitment, it has become a patchwork quilt of a squad made up of heavily influenced manager selections. We were one of the real innovative clubs in terms to recruitment and our model and this was ripped by, you know who, Top and Rudkin to appease Rodgers and to absolutely disastrous effect. 
 

Then the treatment of fans, so many decisions, strategy and decisions have been taken with minimal regard for the impact to supporters, the heartbeat of the club, various sponsorship deals with dubious crypto / betting companies, more and more decisions regards ticketing arrangements that are slowly alienating the legacy fanbase and to top it off when we do experience success, the fans are shunted behind daytrippers and VIP guests with little or no affiliation or affection to the club. 
 

Finally the lack of communication, they are to quote their own words ‘custodians’ of our club and yet the strategy is to close ranks, share very minimal interaction and information treating the fanbase with utter contempt, distain and lack of respect. This will always be our club, our city and yet slowly but surely we are becoming more and more detached from the club. We are treated as 2nd class citizens despite being supposedly a family, it makes me smile when people preach togetherness and yet we are treated like we are a burden to the club rather than the lifeblood. 
 

This is why the feeling has grown so strongly against the current administration of the club, we stand on the edge of financial meltdown which could see us descend to league 1 …. 5 years after winning the FA Cup Final and successive top 5 finishes in the premier league, every week the news that comes out would suggest things are only getting worse and more critical, the leaders have demonstrated they are not capable of turning this around, so I ask anyone still supporting KP, Top and Rudkin to provide genuine evidence and reasons as to why they should not be held responsible & accountable for our rapid decline and why any of them deserve any element of trust that they will turn this around. 

Spot on. I'm starting to despise some of our fans more than I do Top and Rudkin at this point. I've had to stop looking at fb pages about Leicester as its full of brain dead idiots that dont have a clue about football. I've absolutely no issue with people supporting Top and Rudkin if they can give me genuine reasons why. Not one single person has yet given me a good reason other than the usual bollocks of "be careful what you wish for" 

"We won the league and fa cup" etc etc. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Spot on. I'm starting to despise some of our fans more than I do Top and Rudkin at this point. I've had to stop looking at fb pages about Leicester as its full of brain dead idiots that dont have a clue about football. I've absolutely no issue with people supporting Top and Rudkin if they can give me genuine reasons why. Not one single person has yet given me a good reason other than the usual bollocks of "be careful what you wish for" 

"We won the league and fa cup" etc etc. 

I know it’s a game of opinions and all that but it’s very difficult after 3/4 years to actually understand their position - and I don’t think they do either. There are no arguments left. 
 

As a supporter how can you watch your club be absolutely decimated in every possible area, it’s future risked and support the man riding a horse while doing it. It’s just bonkers.

[BenTheFox]

20 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I know it’s a game of opinions and all that but it’s very difficult after 3/4 years to actually understand their position - and I don’t think they do either. There are no arguments left. 
 

As a supporter how can you watch your club be absolutely decimated in every possible area, it’s future risked and support the man riding a horse while doing it. It’s just bonkers.

Whenever I hold a position I always try to understand the perspective of people who take the opposite stance. I'm struggling here. I don't see any coherent arguments on the opposite side at all. No one is making any coherent arguments explaining why they think the situation will improve under this ownership. I am confident enough in my position to make what in my opinion are compelling arguments as to why I think the situation under this ownership is likely to get substantially worse. 

Edited 3 January by BenTheFox

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, SecretPro said:

We have about 15,000 in the Stadium who still don't even know who Rudkin is. Probably about 12,000 who aren't even interested in football either. 

We have a stadium full of NPC's

[Iwebema]

For what its worth, a close friend of mine doesn't fully see it the way most on here do (theyve been a season ticket holder for over 20 years)

Whilst they are definitely slowly getting there with some of it, for instance they finally turned on Rudkin last season. Their counter was that, they have shown over the years that they do care, citing things like the training ground and general investment over the years and they cant have just suddenly become "a mike ashley or a chansiri"

 

I have previously used the caring isn't competence line to meet in the middle, as for a period of the decline I am sure they did care, but they are just such a bunch of clowns they couldnt fix it.

 

This season for me personally has shown that I am not convinced they care at all any more, its just way down the pecking order of things behind a crumbling financial empire and polo. Especially now large sections of the fans are speaking out about them, I genuinely think theres an air of "how dare they, well **** em" about it tbh.

 

Unfortunately for some that period from promotion chasing, to the title and the European trips with brendan has just given them so so much in the bank, its like the leicester equivalent of sir alex at United, untouchable. Its going to take a long period of sustained misery for them to click unfortunately.

[BenTheFox]

37 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

For what its worth, a close friend of mine doesn't fully see it the way most on here do (theyve been a season ticket holder for over 20 years)

Whilst they are definitely slowly getting there with some of it, for instance they finally turned on Rudkin last season. Their counter was that, they have shown over the years that they do care, citing things like the training ground and general investment over the years and they cant have just suddenly become "a mike ashley or a chansiri"

 

I have previously used the caring isn't competence line to meet in the middle, as for a period of the decline I am sure they did care, but they are just such a bunch of clowns they couldnt fix it.

 

This season for me personally has shown that I am not convinced they care at all any more, its just way down the pecking order of things behind a crumbling financial empire and polo. Especially now large sections of the fans are speaking out about them, I genuinely think theres an air of "how dare they, well **** em" about it tbh.

 

Unfortunately for some that period from promotion chasing, to the title and the European trips with brendan has just given them so so much in the bank, its like the leicester equivalent of sir alex at United, untouchable. Its going to take a long period of sustained misery for them to click unfortunately.

This is some pretty good insight. To be honest, it's only recently that I have started to question whether Aiyawatt really cares anymore. I put the mistakes of the tail end of the Rodgers era up until last season down to poor decision rather than not caring. For example, when we were relegated in 2023, we appointed Maresca and signed the likes of Coady, Winks, Mavididi etc. That doesn't strike me as us having an owner that doesn't care anymore. I think now that the financial issues with King Power are so significant, that his heart isn't in trying to turn around a football club with uncertainty with potential sanctions related to PSR. 

[ACF]

A severe lack of Natalie Imbruglia from the stands IMO

 

We’re all out of faith, this is how we feel
We’re angry and ashamed
Vichai’s dreams are on the floor
Delusion never changed into something real
No happy clappers we can see our perfect club is gone
Before it’s too late
We want Top gone

 

[Chrysalis]

10 hours ago, Dames said:

The PSR issues have been going on since Rodgers last season and the fact those issues are still happening 3 years later is unforgivable. 

The writing was on the wall even before that season.  We had for a number of a years an extremely high wages to income ratio.

[LCFCJohn]

5 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Spot on. I'm starting to despise some of our fans more than I do Top and Rudkin at this point. I've had to stop looking at fb pages about Leicester as its full of brain dead idiots that dont have a clue about football. I've absolutely no issue with people supporting Top and Rudkin if they can give me genuine reasons why. Not one single person has yet given me a good reason other than the usual bollocks of "be careful what you wish for" 

"We won the league and fa cup" etc etc. 

This is exactly as I feel. For me, these fans are now doing more damage to the club than Aiyawatt and Rudkin are. 
 

It’s not just about forcing them to leave either. It has become that now but if these people could have taken their heads out their asses and put the club before their devotion to one man, maybe the fanbase could have been united in making feelings known and at least making him accountable and potentially not make some of the bad decisions they have. Essentially, through these people defending them, they are unaccountable and been given free reign to destroy everything Pearson and his

team built. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

I'm not on Facebook but to those of you who are, and engaging/debating with the KPFC lot there, have you asked them if there is a point where even they would finally acknowledge this can't go on? If so, what would that actual moment/realisation be.

Can you do surveys on FB? Something along the lines of: What would make you call for a change of owner?

Relegation to Div One.

Administration.

Relegation to Div Two.

Continuing financial irregularities.

More betting sponsorship deals.

None of the above.

 

And so on.....

Edited 3 January by Free Falling Foxes