King Power Out

[jayfox26]

48 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I often wonder. Why? Why aren’t we all stood at Seagrave now, demanding answers. 
 

I read something on social media a Leicesters fan commenting on a post of Sheffield Wednesday at their final home game words to the effect of “that’s what real fans do, back their players even in a crisis”….. yet fail to mention the protesting they did against the ownership to rescue their club. 
 

The problem with is, is we’ve got it on two folds…. The players don’t give a shit, and essentially gave up a long time ago, and the board are incompetent, I can’t back the “lads” or the regime. I don’t like this team, bar a couple of youth players I hate the lot of them. 
 

But, I think there’s also an awkwardness amongst a lot of the match going fanbase, and it’s clear to see on social media that some simply won’t speak out against the ownership, or they blindly think if they carry on going and clapping things will get better and Top will suddenly sort it out……

 

This is a man who continually promotes a man who’s mainly responsible for the mess we’re in…… 

 

I just don’t think enough fans care, when we have 100 people turn up to protest, it just doesn’t strike the chord it should do….. but I’m starting to think we may as well just keep protesting, even if it’s just 50…. Eventually 50 will become 100, 200 1000 10,000 etc….. I now think consistency will potentially make people braver and drive the numbers up. 
 

As @Katy said, Top and Rudkin are preparing their own nooses and will eventually hang themselves, and then perhaps the majority will wake up, but it will be far too late. 

The point you've made about not being able to back the players or the board is spot on. Most of these players have been a disgrace this season and regardless of how poorly the club is being run, that does not mean they can just toss it off while taking their obscene wages and sticking 2 fingers up to the crowd. 

 

I have a mate whos a Wednesday fan and I said to him, whilst the plight of your club has been awful, and the results this season have been poor the one thing they have had is the players fighting for the club. Most of them aren't good enough for the championship but at least they were all giving 100% in what was a very turbulent time at the club. Fans will always back players if they give 100%, even if they aren't very good.

 

We were in a similar situation last time we went down to league 1 where we had financial issues and a fair few of our players weren't quite good enough for the championship but they gave their all but we went down. 

This season is just unfathomable how this group of players basically finished bottom of the league when you discount Wednesday who had a huge points deduction. 

[Foxin_Mad]

Remember the last time we went down by 20th of June Pearson was in place, by mid July we had signed a group of new players to add to the young and a few experienced who Pearson kept like Oakley/Howard

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

I often wonder. Why? Why aren’t we all stood at Seagrave now, demanding answers. 
 

I read something on social media a Leicesters fan commenting on a post of Sheffield Wednesday at their final home game words to the effect of “that’s what real fans do, back their players even in a crisis”….. yet fail to mention the protesting they did against the ownership to rescue their club. 
 

The problem with is, is we’ve got it on two folds…. The players don’t give a shit, and essentially gave up a long time ago, and the board are incompetent, I can’t back the “lads” or the regime. I don’t like this team, bar a couple of youth players I hate the lot of them. 
 

But, I think there’s also an awkwardness amongst a lot of the match going fanbase, and it’s clear to see on social media that some simply won’t speak out against the ownership, or they blindly think if they carry on going and clapping things will get better and Top will suddenly sort it out……

 

This is a man who continually promotes a man who’s mainly responsible for the mess we’re in…… 

 

I just don’t think enough fans care, when we have 100 people turn up to protest, it just doesn’t strike the chord it should do….. but I’m starting to think we may as well just keep protesting, even if it’s just 50…. Eventually 50 will become 100, 200 1000 10,000 etc….. I now think consistency will potentially make people braver and drive the numbers up. 
 

As @Katy said, Top and Rudkin are preparing their own nooses and will eventually hang themselves, and then perhaps the majority will wake up, but it will be far too late. 

I have just seen a Sheff Weds supporting colleague this morning for the first time since the weekend before last, when their ownership and the lack of dedication were announced.

 

He’s absolutely bouncing. No dedication, new ownership putting in a structure, which they have announced to the fans, able to sign players again and looking forward to next season.

 

But oh yeah, we have to be ‘careful what we wish for’ because this guy is the son of the guy who happened to own the club when we won the league….

 

Literally I am so envious of Wednesday right now with their future so bright.

Edited 11 May by LCFCJohn

[Chelmofox]

I asked in the Foxes trust thread what comms there had been between the trust and the club, and was told not to expect weekly communication. My question wasn't a complaint, more inquisitive. I signed up for a membership (which was cheap) so wondered if there were any next steps. Next steps all seem to be around communication frameworks, which is fine. Appreciate the importance of fans filling out the feedback etc to add weight to any communications.

 

Im just me, so have a very little voice in the grand scheme of things, but I'm a little surprised a fan group isn't taking the reins and being very vocal with the club right now. We are in a position where there is a strong possibility we could be in administration within the next year. Im starting to wonder (me included) what we are all scared of. Are we scared of stadium bans etc?

 

 

[Mickyblueeyes]

That new DOF came in around March. We were relegated 2 games before the end of the season. It’s now 1 week post final game of the season, 

 

If you’re a proper club, at the very least an announcement is made on Rowett. 
 

This man will leave us at our lowest ever level and on our knees. In the summer of 2023 when I said I fear where this ***** will leave us. Was challenged by some dickhead on here. Wonder if he has the balls to speak up now.

 

This club is over for many years now. You don’t come back easily from this level of damage. 

[indierich06]

11 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

That new DOF came in around March. We were relegated 2 games before the end of the season. It’s now 1 week post final game of the season, 

 

If you’re a proper club, at the very least an announcement is made on Rowett. 
 

This man will leave us at our lowest ever level and on our knees. In the summer of 2023 when I said I fear where this ***** will leave us. Was challenged by some dickhead on here. Wonder if he has the balls to speak up now.

 

This club is over for many years now. You don’t come back easily from this level of damage. 

Yes, this clearly shows that Rowett is still in the mix for next season because if he wasn't, then they could have just sacked him and announced that they were looking for a new manager. 

[Broof]

1 hour ago, indierich06 said:

Yes, this clearly shows that Rowett is still in the mix for next season because if he wasn't, then they could have just sacked him and announced that they were looking for a new manager. 

Entirely possible Rudkin is just not doing anything because he doesn't have to. I've wondered a lot over the last few years how much of this is incompetence vs laziness. Obviously it's both, but I think a massive part is that Rudkin just doesn't actually do much work. 

[Gamble92]

20 hours ago, indierich06 said:

Yes, this clearly shows that Rowett is still in the mix for next season because if he wasn't, then they could have just sacked him and announced that they were looking for a new manager. 

They let Ruud stick around not knowing for 2 months despite one of the earliest relegations imaginable.

 

Don't use logic for these people

Edited 12 May by Gamble92

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

6 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Was challenged by some dickhead on here. Wonder if he has the balls to speak up now.

 

Was it @Sexylady1

[Pliskin]

9 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Remember the last time we went down by 20th of June Pearson was in place, by mid July we had signed a group of new players to add to the young and a few experienced who Pearson kept like Oakley/Howard

That’s because he knew exactly what he was doing. 
 

The best thing that ever happened to KP was hiring Nige, Walsh and Shakey. It was those three that built the foundations for the future success. It can’t be disputed…. So, when people say “king power did this for us” did they? 
 

If a billionaire paid a master builder to build him a house, would the billionaire be credited for all of the work? Or the builder? 

[Officer Doofy]

I care as much as Top at this point. 

 

**** 

[1972 Fox]

13 hours ago, Donwebbio said:

It does raise the question why we are all so accepting of the situation. There is such a resignation among the fanbase, that we are powerless to do anything about it. 

In a a way you are right about the resignation amongst the fanbase but I don't necessarily see it as accepting of the situation.

 

My way of dealing with it is that I will never return until there is top level change to the current t regime. They don't/won't change anything for the better, so I'm out until they're gone.

 

Edited 11 May by 1972 Fox

[Gravel]

9 hours ago, Broof said:

Entirely possible Rudkin is just not doing anything because he doesn't have to. I've wondered a lot over the last few years how much of this is incompetence vs laziness. Obviously it's both, but I think a massive part is that Rudkin just doesn't actually do much work. 

[Pliskin]

20 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

In a a way you are right about the resignation amongst the fanbase but I don't necessarily it as accepting of the situation.

 

My way of dealing with it is that I will never return until there is top level change to the current t regime. They don't/won't change anything for the better, so I'm out until they're gone.

To be fair the most effective way to hurt them is not go, don’t buy the shirt, don’t go to the games, don’t give them a penny. 
 

It turns out the chap I sat next to has given up his season ticket too…. He’s been going for about 45 years, really great guy, loves the club, has been there through the thick and the thin…. It says a lot when people like him are giving up. 
 

Im certainly not giving king power another £. But unfortunately, many will, and it’s not unfair to say that they’re contributing to the demise of the club by continuing to support the current regime. 
 

You can’t “back the lads” and not the regime at the same time, it doesn’t work, if you go to the games you’re investing into KP…… 

 

The only way we heal and rebuild is if the same happens to us as Sheffield Wednesday. But it boils down to do the fans care enough about the club? Where has that passion gone that caused earthquakes? What’s happened? Why are the majority so happy to just let the club continue to die in front of them?

 

Every football financial expert has said that we are ****ed. So why are some just disregarding this and claiming it will be “okay” and “we’ve been there before”…… I’m sorry if it offends anyone and comes across as arrogant, but that’s a real lack of football intelligence, or business intelligence if you will. 
 

There are far, far too many red flags, and the only way out is for Top to pump money into the club, which he can’t do……. So, how exactly does this get resolved? 

Edited 11 May by Pliskin

[Rubbersoul]

They’re doing the exact same thing as after relegation last year. Truly incredible. 

Edited 12 May by Rubbersoul

[teblin]

4 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

They’re doing the exact same thing as after relegation last year. Truly incredible. 

Feels that way doesn't it. Either they are 

• Even more incompetent than we thought (tricky)
• They are stupid
• The really and genuinely don't care at all.

Might be all of the above.

 

Other scenarios 

• They are working hard in the background and trying to put a plan in place  (if that is the case have some kind of communication with the fans)
• Financially we a done and we are going to get even worse news.

Manager wise, we might have to wait until after playoffs etc... Other jobs will be open in the championship, so people might want to work in the division above and we might have to wait. Which is why we might not of ruled out GR for manager.

 

But I have no idea why we can't do the release list, even if we don't know you can say there are ongoing discussions with x player but the following will leave.

[Blue ROI]

20 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

They’re doing the exact same thing as after relegation last year. Truly incredible. 

Rudkinomics 

[Les-TA-Jon]

15 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

They let Ruud stick around not knowing for 2 months despite one of the earliest relegations imaginable.

 

Don't use logic for these people

Pretty sure they knew they were going to sack him. They just waited to see which financial year could stomach the cost of doing so. 

[Les-TA-Jon]

13 hours ago, Pliskin said:

That’s because he knew exactly what he was doing. 
 

The best thing that ever happened to KP was hiring Nige, Walsh and Shakey. It was those three that built the foundations for the future success. It can’t be disputed…. So, when people say “king power did this for us” did they? 
 

If a billionaire paid a master builder to build him a house, would the billionaire be credited for all of the work? Or the builder? 

Agree - but it was Mandaric who appointed NP in 2008 - the Thais didn't appoint NP until after Sven left, in 2011

[izzymuzzet]

Three weeks since relegation was confirmed and they haven't even announced whether our out of contract manager is staying or leaving. They never learn. 

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Pretty sure they knew they were going to sack him. They just waited to see which financial year could stomach the cost of doing so. 

Agreed but still not excuse in how long we waited to appoint Marti. 

 

That Percy article mentions how the players thought it shown just how poor the club is run. All this stuff plays it's part in them not buying in and what happened.

 

Not excusing the players because it's an absolute disgrace how much they downed tools but it's so important to get your house in order and have everyone on the same page.

[Pliskin]

2 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Agree - but it was Mandaric who appointed NP in 2008 - the Thais didn't appoint NP until after Sven left, in 2011

They still appointed him, and it’s still the best thing they ever did. 

[DAS Boot]

2 hours ago, Blue ROI said:

Rudkinomics 

Very nice.

 

We certainly cant see him.

[Gamble92]

5 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

They still appointed him, and it’s still the best thing they ever did. 

Made sure he was gone before they took over. Then plunged us into serious danger with the care free spending that had no risk to them but could have seen us in the scenario we are now. 

 

Anyone who doesn't appreciate Nigel Pearson and his staff is a moron.

[Les-TA-Jon]

15 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

They still appointed him, and it’s still the best thing they ever did. 

Sure. It's just that you were talking about it in reference to the previous relegation to League One, which was under Mandaric, not KP