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Outfox the Fox

Brian Barry Murphy

By Outfox the Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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BBM has brought on some youngsters at Cardiff and they're playing good football, as 41pts from 19 games proves. I've no doubt the likes of Nelson and Aluko would've had more games under him. Time will tell, but i think BBM has a higher ceiling then Marti.

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coolhandfox

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1 hour ago, BrilliantFox said:

Unfortunately Ruud's stubbornness overrided Murphy's contribution. 

6 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Umm... no. I'm looking at the difference between RVN's coaching and the difference between Murphy's coaching. There is a clear distinction.

No you said it was about Ruud stubbornness stopping Murphy's contribution. 

 

 

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LCFCJohn

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Lots of hindsight going on here.

 

When BBM’s name was in the ring back in the summer, the idea was shut down on here. The consensus was that he was partly  for the issues last season and not strong enough. 
 

I don’t think I’d have minded personally as he came with a reputation of playing young players which was something I wanted to see. But then Marti came with that reputation as well and we are only just starting to see it now. Who knows what pressure, either from above, or just down to the wider expectations of being in the job, BBM would have been under here (compared to Cardiff) and now he’d have reacted. 

 

Obviously this has only been bumped due to a particular poster using anything they can to pursue an odd vendetta against our current manager anyway….

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ALC Fox

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A bit like Chris Davies' Birmingham last season, his team are expected to do well in League One. And we know a confident side can give teams from higher divisions a good game.

 

He's one to keep an eye on but let's not get too carried away.

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Mike Oxlong

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BBM locked Ruud in the toilet at Seagrave for the entirety of Ruud's time with us. Ruud would only be fed scraps from the players buffet and could only sleep sitting upright on the pan as the cubicle was too small for the tall dutchman to lie down. For match days and press conferences BBM had the technical team from Abba Voyage create a virtual Ruud and he hired Steve McClaren to voice Ruud's responses to the media. This was so that BBM could run the coaching and team selection without interference but thinking  that it might go tits up Ruud would be the fall guy. Reports are circulating that the club has hired Scooby Doo to investigate. 

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ClaphamFox

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3 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Lots of hindsight going on here.

 

When BBM’s name was in the ring back in the summer, the idea was shut down on here. The consensus was that he was partly  for the issues last season and not strong enough. 
 

I don’t think I’d have minded personally as he came with a reputation of playing young players which was something I wanted to see. But then Marti came with that reputation as well and we are only just starting to see it now. Who knows what pressure, either from above, or just down to the wider expectations of being in the job, BBM would have been under here (compared to Cardiff) and now he’d have reacted. 

 

Obviously this has only been bumped due to a particular poster using anything they can to pursue an odd vendetta against our current manager anyway….

It was not a consensus. Plenty of us would have been happy to see him given a go,

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

It was not a consensus. Plenty of us would have been happy to see him given a go,

Based on what? 

 

Other than desperation to have someone other than RVN 

 

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ClaphamFox

ClaphamFox

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6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Based on what? 

 

Personally it was because I know somebody involved in football in Ireland, who has followed BBM's career closely and is adamant that he's a serious talent and is going right to the top. I trust this person's judgment (he's not given to being overly effusive), so I was swayed by that. Another reason was that the other names being linked with us at the time were so uninspiring. I did notice that a few others on here wanted BBM to be given the chance, but I can't speak for how they came to that conclusion.  

 

Having said that, I admit I was quite happy when Cifuentes was appointed (well, probably relieved more than happy) and although I started to have doubts after the Southampton and Sheff Utd games, I'm still cautiously optimistic he might turn out to be a decent manager for us.

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BrilliantFox

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4 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

BBM led 70% of the coaching session at Seagrave while he was here 

Its almost like being a Manager vs an Assistant Coach are two completely different things.

 

RVN as the manager has the final say on lineups, formations, tactics. So whatever good BBM was doing on the training ground will obviously be outshadowed by RVN's poor management.

CosbehFox

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19 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Its almost like being a Manager vs an Assistant Coach are two completely different things.

 

RVN as the manager has the final say on lineups, formations, tactics. So whatever good BBM was doing on the training ground will obviously be outshadowed by RVN's poor management.

You made the point about 'Ruud's coaching vs Brian Barry Murphys coaching' so I just pointed out BBM was coaching most of it. The management v coaching is a different debate. 

 

He's having a good season - the sort of job he needed after his poor early managerial experiences, doing Under 21s management and being assistant. But let's not hide that he's at League 1's biggest club with a wealth of young prospects that he's been able to coach and mould into this own. Not dis-similar from Chris Davies and Birmingham City. 

 

The managerial jobs at Cardiff and Leicester were and are very different. I think there's a high chance BBM wouldn't have touched it given he fell out with parts of the squad. 

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BrilliantFox

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5 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

But let's not hide that he's at League 1's biggest club with a wealth of young prospects that he's been able to coach and mould into this own.

 

Cifuentes is managing the biggest club in the Championship with a wealth of young prospects yet he's been a shocking appointment?

 

So what gives?

CosbehFox

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29 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

 

Cifuentes is managing the biggest club in the Championship with a wealth of young prospects yet he's been a shocking appointment?

 

So what gives?

I didn't defend Cifuentes did I? 

 

Given Cardiff's opposition in the next four is Lincoln, Exeter, Stevenage and Wycombe. I think the answer is obvious there. 

 

That's before we even discuss the whole range of issues at LCFC. 

Finnegan

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54 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

 

Cifuentes is managing the biggest club in the Championship with a wealth of young prospects yet he's been a shocking appointment?

 

So what gives?

 

Cardiff's squad is far stronger relative to the league it's in than ours is. 

 

I have no interest arguing who is better out of Cifuentes and Murphy but our situations are very obviously not direct parallels and make for poor comparison. 

 

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HankMarvin

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3 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Cardiff's squad is far stronger relative to the league it's in than ours is. 

 

I have no interest arguing who is better out of Cifuentes and Murphy but our situations are very obviously not direct parallels and make for poor comparison. 

 

Biggest club doesn’t necessarily mean best though, in can be interpreted in terms of recent history. 
 

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LinekersLugs

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On 16/06/2025 at 18:50, LinekersLugs said:

Was hired by Top on the suggestion of Enzo 

has a seriously big future in the Game 

RVN sidelined him a little, people scoffing on here won’t be scoffing if Cardiff are swapping places with us next year, this fella was well liked by the players after he challenged a few big heads to up their game, I for one wish him well and think we have dropped a clanger here by not sacking RVN and giving this guy 6-8 games to show his stuff, Cardiff’s owner seems to have been well informed here, I really feel the scapegoating of hard working professionals only serves to protect Rudkin and Top 

Stand by this 

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