A Call for Change: A Footballing Reset at Leicester City Football Club

[hejammy]

Worse still... 

[les-tah]

38 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Your second point isn’t possible due to PSR. Sacking Rudkin isn’t a short term change, it’s a long term answer with transfer fee’s and contracts being spent more wisely with a clear vision and identity to who we are and what we want to be.

The psr thing isnt fully washing with me anymore personally. We havent breached the last 2 years. 1 year because a technicality and this last year we officially didnt breach as per recent announcement.

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, les-tah said:

The psr thing isnt fully washing with me anymore personally. We havent breached the last 2 years. 1 year because a technicality and this last year we officially didnt breach as per recent announcement.

Passing doesn't mean we have money to spend though. You can't bash the club for financially being stupid in the past and then ask them to be financially stupid now. It's going to be a while yet until we're back on an even footing in terms of PSR. 

 

[FrankieADZ]

think he sums it up pretty well in his X thread tbh

 

well unless you are a KP knob rider, or one of them "we was in league 1 15 yrs ago" lot

[Pliskin]

8 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Passing doesn't mean we have money to spend though. You can't bash the club for financially being stupid in the past and then ask them to be financially stupid now. It's going to be a while yet until we're back on an even footing in terms of PSR. 

 

We’ve tied ourselves in knots. 

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

We’ve tied ourselves in knots. 

Yep... half the stuff people moan about now all goes back to mistakes made years ago. Bashing the club for not backing the manager in January is totally nonsensical. We are operating with our arms tied behind our backs due to PSR and we simply have to be responsible to ever hope to have a reset from the PSR mess. And yes, a large portion of it is of our own making clearly.

 

I'd have happily banked the lot and spent nothing this year, so long as there was a long term plan in place. 

[Soar Fox]

1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

Tbf to Mark he’s already stated elsewhere and you can understand his reasoning 

Whereabouts  has he said something?

[Pliskin]

4 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yep... half the stuff people moan about now all goes back to mistakes made years ago. Bashing the club for not backing the manager in January is totally nonsensical. We are operating with our arms tied behind our backs due to PSR and we simply have to be responsible to ever hope to have a reset from the PSR mess. And yes, a large portion of it is of our own making clearly.

 

I'd have happily banked the lot and spent nothing this year, so long as there was a long term plan in place. 

If we knew that for certain we weren’t going to be facing any charges from the EFL. I’d suggest the same. Sell a few players and bank the cash for the summer… selling Hermansen, Bilal, Faes and Victor could generate a healthy wedge to spend properly. We’ve got to sort that wage bill out, but relegations just make it even more difficult to do, especially when you’ve got the likes of Skipp sat on big contracts earning big money, and you simply won’t be able to shift him. 
 

Problem is. I don’t trust the current board to do that. Tops priority will be survival at all costs, still. 

[Pliskin]

If the club got sucked into Jamanji, we wouldn’t have any of these issues……

[Babylon]

5 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

If we knew that for certain we weren’t going to be facing any charges from the EFL. I’d suggest the same. Sell a few players and bank the cash for the summer… selling Hermansen, Bilal, Faes and Victor could generate a healthy wedge to spend properly. We’ve got to sort that wage bill out, but relegations just make it even more difficult to do, especially when you’ve got the likes of Skipp sat on big contracts earning big money, and you simply won’t be able to shift him. 
 

Problem is. I don’t trust the current board to do that. Tops priority will be survival at all costs, still. 

He was brilliant for Norwich, so think he might end up being ok if we go down. 

[Kp1984]

We are such a shambles 

[Gamble92]

30 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

think he sums it up pretty well in his X thread tbh

 

well unless you are a KP knob rider, or one of them "we was in league 1 15 yrs ago" lot

KP nob rider 😂😂😂

 

We need to make that a Foxestalk term 

[CosbehFox]

18 minutes ago, Soar Fox said:

Whereabouts  has he said something?

In the King Power out thread 

[CosbehFox]

Forewarning in the organisation of this. You will very likely need to contact the Police. All wrapped up in thr Human Rights Bill 

[Soar Fox]

1 minute ago, CosbehFox said:

In the King Power out thread 

Thank you. 

[CosbehFox]

Just now, Soar Fox said:

Thank you. 

Looks both parties have spoken to one another and sorted now. But to me you can see Mark’s thinking 

[Foxdiamond]

Different times I know but we need a reset as per Brian Little back in 1991. He came in after we had avoided the drop to the third tier and got us in the top end of the table. A root and branch review of staff and players

[joachim1965]

Premier league winners and the best run club in the country to absolute honking basket case in under ten years.

Very impressive.

[foxile5]

39 minutes ago, joachim1965 said:

Premier league winners and the best run club in the country to absolute honking basket case in under ten years.

Very impressive.

There's a lot to dislike about football in the modern era. 

 

I'm starting to resent going to watch us and the city have been my absolute life love. 

 

I can't stand the 'football culture' that has sprung up on the Internet and in the media. Thousands of morons in comments sections arguing about 'farmers leagues' and 'goats' and 'limbs'. It's always people who don't attend matches, too. But they've got opinions that need airing.

 

The players, both ours and wider, are just willy pullers, by and large. All the performative signs and symbols and silly little actions, the endless ego. Oh my gosh did Lamina stitch flags onto his boots? Did Mbappe do a cryptic post. THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT AND MYSTERIOUS. 

 

And central to this is watching Leicester chuck everything down the drain and treat people like me and my father as criminals for doing something that we've always done. I can't prove it but we all know - life long season ticket holders aren't wanted at our club. And we're supposed to actually OWN the essence of the club; Top is just it's custodian. Yet they work against us. Anyone employed by Leicester is a stooge to this, Jim included. He should be ashamed. He's a good guy but he dances to their fiddle. Some fan.

 

I'm starting to think that I'm finished with it all. It's just tedious. Give the game up to the international fans who have never been inside a ground. Let them salivate over which player cuts holes in their socks or who does the best elbow dance. Clearly it's no longer for people like me who want to watch their local team with their mates and families.

Edited 19 January by foxile5

[-sodapop]

Whatever happens with the footballing project, we need a total rethink of our recruitment when we go down.

 

We need a unified vision from a DoF who has half a clue.

 

Tap into under utilised markets. We're pretty good at looking at Scandinavia, but Eastern Europe/Central Asia/Japan/Korea/South America are all places teeming with talent.

 

Buy to sell - we need the Brighton mentality of having two players waiting in the wing for every first teamer; so when one of the big boys come sniffing, we aren't left in a whole in our squad for 5+ years like we had at RW, for example. The game has changed and you can't really expect loyalty, so everybody needs to be a replaceable cog. It's not a romantic view of football, but it's that or slogging it in the lower leagues.

 

It will also encourage us to move players on. We left so much money on the table by letting the likes of Tielemans, Soyuncu, Kelechi etc walk for free because we were afraid to sell when their value was high and lose quality in our squad. We need to stop looking for finished products, recruit and develop players (would also need a coach with that mindset).

 

Use the academy. This means committing to a philosophy and instilling that in players coming through the academy like La Masia or one of the other big boy academies. That philosophy should also guide managerial appointments.

 

While I'm at it, I feel like we should move to the head coach model, and retain more power in the club proper rather than ping-ponging back and forth based on what each manager feels like doing. Continuity is so important and no other successful business worth this much operates by changing direction every 18 months.

[Houdini Logic]

3 hours ago, ProjectReset said:

All - feels appropriate at this point to provide an update and response to some FAQs

1. Why focus on Rudkin and not 'sacking the board' or requesting new ownership: 
 

For this movement to be effective, it has to be focused and realistic. A broad “sack the board” approach is neither practical nor fair. The board is elected by shareholders to oversee the club’s long-term stability, and while we may question their decisions, a demand for their wholesale removal is unlikely to be successful and it is also unclear what this would achieve other than further instability. What we do know is that the footballing operation is failing, and Jon Rudkin, as Director of Football, is directly responsible. His role covers recruitment, managerial appointments, and player contracts - all areas where Leicester City have struggled to operate effectively in recent years. We have found ourselves unable to move on older players on higher wages, limiting our ability to operate efficiently in the transfer market. This, in turn, has left us persistently exposed to financial restrictions and PSR sanctions, creating uncertainty about our strategy. No doubt, this uncertainty also makes recruitment (both player and managerial) more challenging, impacts the mindset of our current players, and contributes to the growing frustration in the stands. We also recognise that, rightly or wrongly, the club operates with a high level of secrecy. We don’t have access to every discussion or decision behind closed doors, but what we can see is a pattern of footballing stagnation, with reactive rather than proactive decision-making. That is what we are challenging. By focusing on Rudkin, we highlight a specific, actionable failure. 

 

You've said promoting a message of sack the board is neither practical nor fair.

 

1) What makes you think it's unfair? It's clear that Rudkin is out of his depth but he's not exactly going to sack himself, is he? That is something that should have been noticed and addressed by the CEO, who has the power to make that decision and bring in a new DOF.  As such, this is a much bigger problem than Rudkin and I am actually more worried about the cluelessness of our CEO in allowing this to continue for so long. And if the CEO chooses not to act (as Whelan has chosen not to) then the Shareholders should act to replace these executives at our club. Being that Top has a 55% shareholding, then it is his decision alone to get rid of Rudkin and Whelan and replace them with competent individuals. So actually, I think it is completely fair and I'd go as far as saying that just going after Rudkin is not solving the problem. 

 

2) Is it practical? Of course it isn't realistic for the board to sack themselves but that's not the point. While we keep providing the scapegoat of Rudkin the rest of the Execs and the owner get a free pass. However, if we start to push the message that actually, as fans, we think that the club isn't being run correctly (see point 1) then maybe the owner - who is the ultimate decision maker here - will need to take note and try to address the more fundamental issues within the structure of a club, and that SHOULD include looking at himself. I'm completely fine with Top staying if he learns quickly that he needs to bring in the right executive team, and make difficult decisions where necessary, but while he just let's this sh*t show continue, I think he's as responsible as the rest of them, and we shouldn't shy away from saying that. 

 

 

[Ric Flair]

@Mark Can we pin? I think we should. 500 likes and we PIN

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, Houdini Logic said:

You've said promoting a message of sack the board is neither practical nor fair.

 

1) What makes you think it's unfair? It's clear that Rudkin is out of his depth but he's not exactly going to sack himself, is he? That is something that should have been noticed and addressed by the CEO, who has the power to make that decision and bring in a new DOF.  As such, this is a much bigger problem than Rudkin and I am actually more worried about the cluelessness of our CEO in allowing this to continue for so long. And if the CEO chooses not to act (as Whelan has chosen not to) then the Shareholders should act to replace these executives at our club. Being that Top has a 55% shareholding, then it is his decision alone to get rid of Rudkin and Whelan and replace them with competent individuals. So actually, I think it is completely fair and I'd go as far as saying that just going after Rudkin is not solving the problem. 

 

2) Is it practical? Of course it isn't realistic for the board to sack themselves but that's not the point. While we keep providing the scapegoat of Rudkin the rest of the Execs and the owner get a free pass. However, if we start to push the message that actually, as fans, we think that the club isn't being run correctly (see point 1) then maybe the owner - who is the ultimate decision maker here - will need to take note and try to address the more fundamental issues within the structure of a club, and that SHOULD include looking at himself. I'm completely fine with Top staying if he learns quickly that he needs to bring in the right executive team, and make difficult decisions where necessary, but while he just let's this sh*t show continue, I think he's as responsible as the rest of them, and we shouldn't shy away from saying that. 

 

 

I think you're doing a massive disservice to the sentiment of your username if you think our CEO is the one who decides on the position of our Director of Football. 

 

I know we tell our kids that Santa's real but come on man we were once Champions League.

[EastAnglianFox]

3 hours ago, joachim1965 said:

Premier league winners and the best run club in the country to absolute honking basket case in under ten years.

Very impressive.

The Leicester way 

[South Shire Fox]

A club with an identity. How can you go from Maresca ball to appointing a bloke like Cooper with a completely different style? Totally bizarre and just shows they are making it up as they go a long. The club needs to decide on a style it wants from its youth teams all the way through to the first team and stick with it like Brighton. Sign players and Managers that fit the mould

Edited 19 January by South Shire Fox