Managerial replacements

[Claudio Fannieri]

4 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Jimmy Thelin. 
 

I doubt our lot have even heard of him let alone monitoring his progress and then be brave enough to make such an appointment. Our club will go for Stevie G as he fits having premier league experience and also is a legendary name. 

[winteriscoming]

Russell Martin in the running for the Rangers job after sacking Philip Clement. 
Hopefully he’ll end up there. 

[lfu]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Russell Martin in the running for the Rangers job after sacking Philip Clement. 
Hopefully he’ll end up there. 

Brendanball vs Russellball will make for hilarious Old Firm matches

[winteriscoming]

Just now, lfu said:

Brendanball vs Russellball will make for hilarious Old Firm matches

There isn’t a football ground big enough for their egos. 

[adamkhalifa]

We need a manager that can get the best out of what we have. Not try and copy Man City 8 years ago. 

I'm looking forward to kick and rush football. 

Man City: Why Pep Guardiola's tactics stopped working amid rise of rapid football - BBC Sport

 

 

[Ric Flair]

I don't want anything that's seen as a stop gap, I'm not interested in getting promoted again next season if we've no plan to survive and we repeat this over and over. Some will disagree with that or say worry about that when we get there and make the changes as we need to, but we've proven as a club in recent years we aren't proactive enough.

 

We basically need to strike lucky with a manager again but without major changes off the field I don't see it happening successfully and with any longevity either.

 

We're in a period now where we're just going through the motions until it all comes to a head and it will do. We may never get back to anywhere near what we've done but the goal of any future owner needs to be to the best of the rest and have a culture and strategy that fans can relate to. Modern football is tedious and boring as sin enough as it is.

 

 

[markko]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I don't want anything that's seen as a stop gap, I'm not interested in getting promoted again next season if we've no plan to survive and we repeat this over and over. Some will disagree with that or say worry about that when we get there and make the changes as we need to, but we've proven as a club in recent years we aren't proactive enough.

 

We basically need to strike lucky with a manager again but without major changes off the field I don't see it happening successfully and with any longevity either.

 

We're in a period now where we're just going through the motions until it all comes to a head and it will do. We may never get back to anywhere near what we've done but the goal of any future owner needs to be to the best of the rest and have a culture and strategy that fans can relate to. Modern football is tedious and boring as sin enough as it is.

 

 

I would like a long term builder. Pearson type. Build the club up if that is possible.with who we we have behind the scenes. I quite like Mark Robins.

[Ric Flair]

Just now, markko said:

I would like a long term builder. Pearson type. Build the club up if that is possible.with who we we have behind the scenes. I quite like Mark Robins.

I want someone who's got the bravery to bring through academy players as their number 1 priority. It should be the clubs mantra, Seagrave was a complete waste of money otherwise. 

 

We have spent the last decade trying to utilise being the overwhelmingly most successful midlands football club and attracting the best young players from the areas but we have to capitalise on that and maintain the reputation as the club to start your career at. 

 

I'd take that as our identity even if it never resulted in us challenging for major honours again. It ought to be a great platform to build a club from than the way we currently are trying to compete anyway.

[moore_94]

Such a shame looking around at talented young foreign managers knowing that our lot wont having a fvcking clue who any of them even are

[winteriscoming]

2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Such a shame looking around at talented young foreign managers knowing that our lot wont having a fvcking clue who any of them even are

It still pisses me off that villa got Emery while we stuck with Rodgers for too long. 
Look at the managers we missed out on around 2022 who are doing well in the premiership now - Slot and Glasner. 
Genuinely think we have a good chance of getting Urs Fischer was linked with the wba when Corberan left. But as you say it’ll be another foreign manager our clowns wouldn’t have any idea who he is. 

[markko]

6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I want someone who's got the bravery to bring through academy players as their number 1 priority. It should be the clubs mantra, Seagrave was a complete waste of money otherwise. 

 

We have spent the last decade trying to utilise being the overwhelmingly most successful midlands football club and attracting the best young players from the areas but we have to capitalise on that and maintain the reputation as the club to start your career at. 

 

I'd take that as our identity even if it never resulted in us challenging for major honours again. It ought to be a great platform to build a club from than the way we currently are trying to compete anyway.

Totally agree. We cannot compete in any other way long term. We have got.to.blood young players. Other teams do it. At the minute we are floundering from one bad appointment to another and then inevitable failure.

[Chrysalis]

Need to learn to walk before can run, but not many will accept this.

 

Need a squad clear out, reset.  A manager that concentrates on the basic, so things like marking, tackling, set plays, getting ball forward quickly.  Tippy tappy is a luxury you only work on when the basics are sorted.

Seagrave either needs a massive downgrade so its a less comfortable environment for the players, or to stop being used for the first team, but thats never happening until a new owner sells it.

 

I have noticed successful periods tend to happen in football when a more expansive manager takes over from a old school type manager, so they benefit from the foundations being laid first.

 

I wonder what all the Moyes haters are thinking at the moment.

Edited 23 February by Chrysalis

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Need to learn to walk before can run, but not many will accept this.

 

Need a squad clear out, reset.  A manager that concentrates on the basic, so things like marking, tackling, set plays, getting ball forward quickly.  Tippy tappy is a luxury you only work on when the basics are sorted.

Seagrave either needs a massive downgrade so its a less comfortable environment for the players, or to stop being used for the first team, but thats never happening until a new owner sells it.

I wonder of the board will come to this conclusion now, especially as Man City have had a bad year and Enzo has hit a similar wall to ours last season. 

 

None of the challenger teams (by these i mean Brentford, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Forest etc) play what we were trying to achieve. We need pace, physicality and to do the basics right. Watching Brentford get every long cross almost perfectly right and we couldn't find anyone to cross the ball to was depressing. I don't think anyone will achieve anything trying to replicate Pep, and i think PL football has already left that idea behind.

[Chrysalis]

5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I wonder of the board will come to this conclusion now, especially as Man City have had a bad year and Enzo has hit a similar wall to ours last season. 

 

None of the challenger teams (by these i mean Brentford, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Forest etc) play what we were trying to achieve. We need pace, physicality and to do the basics right. Watching Brentford get every long cross almost perfectly right and we couldn't find anyone to cross the ball to was depressing. I don't think anyone will achieve anything trying to replicate Pep, and i think PL football has already left that idea behind.

Forest fans are saying how their team defends well and counters like a beast, which is what won us a title, we went the wrong way on football ideology.
Frustrating not because its Forest, but because we had previously mastered it.
Likewise Bournemouth and co using a system to scout and sign players that Pearson had setup with Walsh, which has since been dismantled.

Even Pep admitted that way of playing relies on teams being scared of you, it falls apart once they dont fear you.  The master of it said it himself.

Edited 23 February by Chrysalis

[King Claudio]

26 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I want someone who's got the bravery to bring through academy players as their number 1 priority. It should be the clubs mantra, Seagrave was a complete waste of money otherwise. 

 

We have spent the last decade trying to utilise being the overwhelmingly most successful midlands football club and attracting the best young players from the areas but we have to capitalise on that and maintain the reputation as the club to start your career at. 

 

I'd take that as our identity even if it never resulted in us challenging for major honours again. It ought to be a great platform to build a club from than the way we currently are trying to compete anyway.

This is absolutely the only strategy I can see working.

 

Become known as a club that gives youngsters a go so they don't feel they have to move elsewhere to get first team football. Play technical football so we can cherry pick the odd quality loanees from the big boys. 

 

I'm not even bothered if they see us as a platform, just as long as we're getting good money for them 

 

Sprinkle a few older heads and id be happy to follow that. 

[Joe_1992]

Danny Röhl for me. Sheffield Wednesday are awful but he’s got them close the playoffs. He’s used to working for a shite board so they’ll be no problems there. 

[dannythefox]

4 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

And the issue is ‘his own player’ are from the old experience line Cooper used. Ashley Young for example one of his signings at Everton. 

Thats why the conversation of Dyche should stop. He a needs must manager rsther than a strategist. This club needs the latter.

 

Too many quick fix tactics has us here now. 

 

Who you fancy then? Dyche would off us some stability, he’s bags of experience and you know what we’re getting. 

[markko]

13 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

Who you fancy then? Dyche would off us some stability, he’s bags of experience and you know what we’re getting. 

Not Dyche. Not now. We are going down. I want to enjoy going to see Leicester again, not being bored to death. We need someone youngish and forward thinking. I know the premier league is the Pinnacle but this season has been nothing short of awful.

[ronnup]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I don't want anything that's seen as a stop gap, I'm not interested in getting promoted again next season if we've no plan to survive and we repeat this over and over. Some will disagree with that or say worry about that when we get there and make the changes as we need to, but we've proven as a club in recent years we aren't proactive enough.

 

We basically need to strike lucky with a manager again but without major changes off the field I don't see it happening successfully and with any longevity either.

 

We're in a period now where we're just going through the motions until it all comes to a head and it will do. We may never get back to anywhere near what we've done but the goal of any future owner needs to be to the best of the rest and have a culture and strategy that fans can relate to. Modern football is tedious and boring as sin enough as it is.

 

 

You know exactly who it is...with his glamorous bird and lovely locks...

 

Your destiny is Brussel

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I want someone who's got the bravery to bring through academy players as their number 1 priority. It should be the clubs mantra, Seagrave was a complete waste of money otherwise. 

 

We have spent the last decade trying to utilise being the overwhelmingly most successful midlands football club and attracting the best young players from the areas but we have to capitalise on that and maintain the reputation as the club to start your career at. 

 

I'd take that as our identity even if it never resulted in us challenging for major honours again. It ought to be a great platform to build a club from than the way we currently are trying to compete anyway.

We are a club which leans heavily on its manager for direction, I think we would have recuited differently with Enzo still in charge.

 

We need a more hands on DOF who directs strategy and has a plan which isn't depend on the incrubrent manager.

 

I think it need to be a blend of growing our  own and polish gems we pick up.

 

I think we should have been a little more pragmatic this season and thought more long term, we could have used Alves and Macteer rather than recuited dad's army.

 

We could have also used Nelson over Okoli, and then spent money on a couple of quality younger players like El Khannouss with a high ceiling and resell value.

 

I think people would have accepted us struggle if we have gone that way.

 

 

[Iwebema]

13 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

We are a club which leans heavily on its manager for direction, I think we would have recuited differently with Enzo still in charge.

 

We need a more hands on DOF who directs strategy and has a plan which isn't depend on the incrubrent manager.

 

I think it need to be a blend of growing our  own and polish gems we pick up.

 

I think we should have been a little more pragmatic this season and thought more long term, we could have used Alves and Macteer rather than recuited dad's army.

 

We could have also used Nelson over Okoli, and then spent money on a couple of quality younger players like El Khannouss with a high ceiling and resell value.

 

I think people would have accepted us struggle if we have gone that way.

 

 

Fabulous post 👌

 

The manager thing is really interesting and I couldn't agree more, because of a lack of a proper DOF and "football people" in general around the board, we are heavily reliant on a proper manager to save us from ourselves.

[J. James]

This manager business is like my stock on ****ing etoro!

On monday I'm thinking  - I'll sell this rubbish, tomorrow

Tuesday - it's "not selling till it goes up a bit"

Wednesday - it drops more

Thursday - l think, wish I'd sold on monday

Friday - l sell for less than what l rejected on tuesday!

 

We may be rejected by those candidates that we didn't think good enough yesterday and have to settle for 3rd rate journeymen much like we did with Dean Smith and with predictable results!

 

 We may soon see it as a proper coup to get Rooney, Gerrard or Lampard - thats how far our club has fallen under this utterly useless owner and his serial failures.

No improvement now until the club is sold imao.

[splinterdream]

we all know it's the DoF we need first and foremost, someone with a 5 year plan to identify talent; make us an attractive prospect, reduce the wage structure, weed out the dross, increase the revenue, and then find us a coach for the long term and connect with the fans.

We need a DoF that is ahead of the curve, cus Rudkin is an embarrasment

[Pliskin]

What we need is for Top to drop this idea the wants to be like Man City…. Hire a young talented coach and let them decide how they want to play. Stop interfering with the team and leave football to those who actually understand it. 

Edited 23 February by Pliskin

[Wink84]

10 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Moyes categorically said he wasn't interested when Cooper was sacked. Respected journalists have reported this.

Would he have come in the summer before Cooper? Perhaps he felt aggrieved he wasn't considered then? Just a theory.