Next Manager

[TheGoldenGod]

13 minutes ago, kingfox said:

They’ve got two options. 
 

The imaginative route like they did with Maresca, try and pluck another novice like Carlos Cuesta, Johnny Heitinga or Davide Ancelotti, or go for an up-and-coming manager from abroad. 
 

Or they go for the unimaginative safe route, someone with a history in the English leagues like Russell Martin, Sean Dyche, Gary O’Neil, Steven Gerrard. 
 

Like others, I fear it will be Russell Martin, just because this board in the past has been obsessed with the possession way. They’ve had a hard on for Graham Potter for years, so Russell Martin is right up their street. 

Can you imagine Dyche in the Championship?....my word. Scott Parker settings of boring. People didn't like a progressive coach like Enzo for being boring despite scoring loads and winning every match. I'd keep Ruud next year, I've said it before if you'd rather go down the other "safe" route, f that.

[kingpower]

Just now, TheGoldenGod said:

Can you imagine Dyche in the Championship?....my word. Scott Parker settings of boring. People didn't like a progressive coach like Enzo for being boring despite scoring loads and winning every match. I'd keep Ruud next year, I've said it before if you'd rather go down the other "safe" route, f that.

what on earth has Ruud shown you that makes you think he is the right man for a season in the Championship?

I know we're limited on options right now but I simply cannot see anything other than a further decline under him

[MaidstoneFox]

Someone like Kasper Hjulmand was highly regarded when he was manager of Denmark. I don't know if he'd come to a club in the Championship though. 

[Aleksz]

No point in even speculating (or anticipating) because the powers that be are useless. Even the recent remotely decent appointment in Enzo was right under their nose and had the same agent as Vardy and their number one target, Potter. 

[filthyfox]

We still haven't sacked the current pile of shite.  No point speculating about the next one!

[TheGoldenGod]

15 minutes ago, kingpower said:

what on earth has Ruud shown you that makes you think he is the right man for a season in the Championship?

I know we're limited on options right now but I simply cannot see anything other than a further decline under him

Because he works with better players, his style would come across more next year as one of the stronger squads in the league. If you're offering him or Dyche in the second tier...it's a clear choice for me all day. As I already said, people were bored under Enzo who we won and scored loads under. Wouldn't take long at all for people to turn on Dyche when we're putting glass eyes to sleep.

 

Ideally we somehow find another candidate that is exciting and works, so we get the best of losing Ruud but still playing attractive footy.

[kingfox]

16 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Graham Potter successfully managed Brighton for several seasons in the PL - they were in the top four when he left. Martin's one attempt at managing in the PL was an unmitigated disaster. They are not remotely comparable.

I’m comparing them from a style of play sense, not a managerial successful sense. 
 

Potter’s style of play is probably what attracted our board the most, Martin is cut from the same cloth in that aspect. 
 

I really hope we stay clear, but it wouldn’t shock me if they turn to Martin or someone extremely similar. 

[kingfox]

22 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Can you imagine Dyche in the Championship?....my word. Scott Parker settings of boring. People didn't like a progressive coach like Enzo for being boring despite scoring loads and winning every match. I'd keep Ruud next year, I've said it before if you'd rather go down the other "safe" route, f that.

In a weird way, with the type of shit we’ve got ourselves into with this set of players, this club could do with a Dyche type, but someone who just plays more attractive football  

 

Call the likes of Scott Parker “boring” all you want, have you seen Burnley’s defence this season 😳

 

As for Ruud, he has shown us nothing to warrant a go in the Championship. 

[ClaphamFox]

3 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I’m comparing them from a style of play sense, not a managerial successful sense. 
 

Potter’s style of play is probably what attracted our board the most, Martin is cut from the same cloth in that aspect. 
 

I really hope we stay clear, but it wouldn’t shock me if they turn to Martin or someone extremely similar. 

So you think the board will just ignore Martin's spectacular failure in the PL this season with Southampton, and his total inability to organise a defence, and recruit him anyway because his teams play pretty football? Such a decision would go beyond mere incompetence - it would be deliberate self-sabotage. And while I accept that our board is incompetent, I don't believe they are actively trying to destroy the club.

[indierich06]

Let's get those deckchairs rearranged, that'll sort everything out

[TheGoldenGod]

9 minutes ago, kingfox said:

In a weird way, with the type of shit we’ve got ourselves into with this set of players, this club could do with a Dyche type, but someone who just plays more attractive football  

 

Call the likes of Scott Parker “boring” all you want, have you seen Burnley’s defence this season 😳

 

As for Ruud, he has shown us nothing to warrant a go in the Championship. 

I'm merely observing how the Leicester city fanbase generally take to coaches. I liked Enzo's style for what it's worth. Never understood the criticism myself because we walked the league really.

 

But I'd like to be entertained if we're in a crap league, I'd expect to see it if I'm honest. Playing turgid football in a turgid league won't be for me.

Edited 17 March by TheGoldenGod

[Foxin_Mad]

To me sacking the manager is completely and utterly irrelevant if the same bellends remain making the decisions

[kingfox]

25 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

So you think the board will just ignore Martin's spectacular failure in the PL this season with Southampton, and his total inability to organise a defence, and recruit him anyway because his teams play pretty football? Such a decision would go beyond mere incompetence - it would be deliberate self-sabotage. And while I accept that our board is incompetent, I don't believe they are actively trying to destroy the club.

As we’ll more than likely be in the Championship, as I said previously, it wouldn’t surprise me for a couple of reasons. 
 

1) He has a Championship promotion on his CV

2) He plays a possession based style

 

This board appointed Rodgers, Maresca and to an extent RVN, to play a possession based style, as I’ve also said, they were heavily keen on Potter for that exact reason too. 
 

If they want to continue down the “Pretty Football” route, who realistically is out there who fits the bill? 
 

It’s exactly why Russell Martin springs to a lot of fans minds. 

[Jazzy_Jeff]

I actually quite liked what Russell Martin was saying on MNF the other week. Basically said that not enough thought was put into the dark arts side of football and was naive in that he thought they could play the same way in this league. Good to hear he understands where he went wrong and hopefully he’s learnt from it 

[foxfanazer]

Just now, Jazzy_Jeff said:

I actually quite liked what Russell Martin was saying on MNF the other week. Basically said that not enough thought was put into the dark arts side of football and was naive in that he thought they could play the same way in this league. Good to hear he understands where he went wrong and hopefully he’s learnt from it 

He's a Brendan Rodgers clone. Want him nowhere near the club

[ClaphamFox]

1 minute ago, kingfox said:

As we’ll more than likely be in the Championship, as I said previously, it wouldn’t surprise me for a couple of reasons. 
 

1) He has a Championship promotion on his CV

2) He plays a possession based style

 

This board appointed Rodgers, Maresca and to an extent RVN, to play a possession based style, as I’ve also said, they were heavily keen on Potter for that exact reason too. 
 

If they want to continue down the “Pretty Football” route, who realistically is out there who fits the bill? 
 

It’s exactly why Russell Martin springs to a lot of fans minds. 

Rodgers was a successful manager when we appointed him. Maresca and RVN were unproved but neither had been tainted by a spectacular recent failure. Martin's terrible record with Southampton in the PL completely overshadows the fact that he got them up via the play-offs. We need somebody who will get us back up and has the tactical intelligence to keep us up next time - Martin has proven he is not the man for that job. In addition, appointing him would go down like a bucket of cold sick with a fanbase that is already becoming dangerously disillusioned. So it would be a catastrophic decision both from a football perspective and a commercial perspective.

 

I know that people are depressed and very down on the club, for understandable reasons. But this idea that we're about to recruit Russell Martin is insane. It is not going to happen.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

Rodgers was a successful manager when we appointed him. Maresca and RVN were unproved but neither had been tainted by a spectacular recent failure. Martin's terrible record with Southampton in the PL completely overshadows the fact that he got them up via the play-offs. We need somebody who will get us back up and has the tactical intelligence to keep us up next time - Martin has proven he is not the man for that job. In addition, appointing him would go down like a bucket of cold sick with a fanbase that is already becoming dangerously disillusioned. So it would be a catastrophic decision both from a football perspective and a commercial perspective.

 

I know that people are depressed and very down on the club, for understandable reasons. But this idea that we're about to recruit Russell Martin is insane. It is not going to happen.

They might not appoint him, but I think it'd be very naive of anyone to think he won't be on a shortlist 

[jayfox26]

5 hours ago, Beachyboy said:

Aren't Sheffield Wednesday a better option currently than either Southampton or Leicester less high wage shit to sort out.

Nah I doubt he'd want to stay there. The owner is as bad as ours and he's worked absolute miracles to get them where they are with no money and a poor squad. Not to mention their facilities etc are dreadful. A decent coach would love the opportunity to make Seagrave what is should be but I'm also not naive enough to think that Rohl could change the stinking culture at this club in his own, we'd need a full reset before we can even think about Seagrave being used to its potential. 

 

He has a £5m release clause which apparently he's asked to have lowered but the owner refused. The fact he asked for it lowered would suggest he wants out. A mate of mine is a Wednesday fan and he said there's zero chance he's there next season. He's heard rumours that he's already agreed to go to Southampton in the summer. 

Edited 17 March by jayfox26

[winteriscoming]

If we didn’t pay Corberans release clause in the summer then there’s no way we will with  Rohl. 

[ClaphamFox]

5 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

If we didn’t pay Corberans release clause in the summer then there’s no way we will with  Rohl. 

You would hope that the board has learned from the mistake of trying to appoint a manager on the cheap.

[kingfox]

21 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Rodgers was a successful manager when we appointed him. Maresca and RVN were unproved but neither had been tainted by a spectacular recent failure. Martin's terrible record with Southampton in the PL completely overshadows the fact that he got them up via the play-offs. We need somebody who will get us back up and has the tactical intelligence to keep us up next time - Martin has proven he is not the man for that job. In addition, appointing him would go down like a bucket of cold sick with a fanbase that is already becoming dangerously disillusioned. So it would be a catastrophic decision both from a football perspective and a commercial perspective.

 

I know that people are depressed and very down on the club, for understandable reasons. But this idea that we're about to recruit Russell Martin is insane. It is not going to happen.

Look at Leeds for example, Daniel Farke had been tainted by Premier League failures with Norwich, yet they still appointed him probably because of his promotion history. Same with Parker at Burnley this season tbf. 
 

We’ll find ourselves in the exact same boat should we get rid of RVN. 
 

Going down the route of a manager with promotion history is of course an option. 
 

Like it or not mate, Russell Martin fits the bill and plays the exact brand of football that this board seems to like. 
 

If we didn’t have a history of appointing possession based managers, then Russell Martin would be nowhere near my thinking. 
 

But we do, and that’s why I’m fearful. 

[cityfanlee23]

14 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Beg Danny Rohl to take over for next season 

As chairman of the DRIS I fully endorse this. 

[cityfanlee23]

30 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Nah I doubt he'd want to stay there. The owner is as bad as ours and he's worked absolute miracles to get them where they are with no money and a poor squad. Not to mention their facilities etc are dreadful. A decent coach would love the opportunity to make Seagrave what is should be but I'm also not naive enough to think that Rohl could change the stinking culture at this club in his own, we'd need a full reset before we can even think about Seagrave being used to its potential. 

 

He has a £5m release clause which apparently he's asked to have lowered but the owner refused. The fact he asked for it lowered would suggest he wants out. A mate of mine is a Wednesday fan and he said there's zero chance he's there next season. He's heard rumours that he's already agreed to go to Southampton in the summer. 

Also heard this from my Wednesday mate, Rohl wants out, if people think KP is a mess, they really haven't been keeping an eye on Chansiri. KP will be a breath of fresh air for Rohl. 

[Muzzy_no7]

As much as I’d love Rohl I don’t think he would come here at this point hence why I’m pushing for Dyche. 

[MaidstoneFox]

Why all these dull young guys with their turtle-necks and white-soled shoes. I want the chain-smoking bank manager, Maurizio Sarri or a guy who sits on a bucket, Marcelo Bielsa, currently wasted as Uruguay national manager. These are proper managers, not some biege, 30-something vegan, who uses moisturiser.