Wilfred Ndidi (signed for Besiktas 9m)

[volpeazzurro]

On 18/07/2025 at 17:42, hackneyfox said:

Winks was an integral part of getting us promoted.

And an integral part of us being relegated. Found out big time and bad attitude.

[coolhandfox]

7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

And an integral part of us being relegated. Found out big time and bad attitude.

Name someone who wasn't? 

 

Bad attitude or just realised RVN was a fraud before most, seemed fine under Enzo and Cooper.

[Jon the Hat]

7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

And an integral part of us being relegated. Found out big time and bad attitude.

I wouldn't judge too much on attitude from last season, we appointed two idiots to manage the team.

[winteriscoming]

Winks is too good for the championship but not good enough for the premiership. 
 

[cropstonfox]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

Winks is too good for the championship but not good enough for the premiership. 
 

Above average in the championship and  very poor  and out his depth in the premier 

League.

[Lambert09]

Ben Jacob’s suggested west ham are interested in wilf and mads 

[Phenom]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

Ben Jacob’s suggested west ham are interested in wilf and mads 

40 million for both

[volpeazzurro]

On 21/07/2025 at 06:27, coolhandfox said:

Name someone who wasn't? 

 

Bad attitude or just realised RVN was a fraud before most, seemed fine under Enzo and Cooper.

When you’re supposed to be part of a team that’s fighting relegation, let alone earning massive wages, was it too much to ask him to stay at the training ground on the night before a home match to save a long journey? No loyalty or fight. Regardless of RVN he was clearly out of his depth back in the premiership, probably why no other teams other than us rushed in to buy him.

[volpeazzurro]

On 21/07/2025 at 06:33, Jon the Hat said:

I wouldn't judge too much on attitude from last season, we appointed two idiots to manage the team.

Doesn’t matter who your manager is, when you play for a professional football team and earn exorbitant wages you owe it to your teammates and the paying public to give your best. Anything else is unprofessional and a lazy selfish copout.

[volpeazzurro]

On 21/07/2025 at 06:27, coolhandfox said:

Name someone who wasn't? 

 

Bad attitude or just realised RVN was a fraud before most, seemed fine under Enzo and Cooper.

I don’t think Vardy, Ricardo, Mads, Stolercyck, El Khannouss, JJ, Thomas, Skipp, Ayew, Okoli for example displayed any bad attitude do you?

[coolhandfox]

37 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

When you’re supposed to be part of a team that’s fighting relegation, let alone earning massive wages, was it too much to ask him to stay at the training ground on the night before a home match to save a long journey? No loyalty or fight. Regardless of RVN he was clearly out of his depth back in the premiership, probably why no other teams other than us rushed in to buy him.

I think it's very easy to make a judgement on snips of information. My observation would be he's attitude seem fine under Enzo and Cooper, which suggests there was more at play with RVN.

 

I'd agree he a very good championship player and probably a OK player in a PL team which can cover for his weakness which is physicality.

 

To honests that's not a massive rush for any of our players.

Edited 22 July 2025 by coolhandfox

[Jon the Hat]

7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

Doesn’t matter who your manager is, when you play for a professional football team and earn exorbitant wages you owe it to your teammates and the paying public to give your best. Anything else is unprofessional and a lazy selfish copout.

Thats great in theory, but in reality the difference between a player being brilliant and being off his best is often psychological, and that is down to the manager and coaches to create the right environment.  Some players are more sensitive than others too.

[Jon the Hat]

7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

When you’re supposed to be part of a team that’s fighting relegation, let alone earning massive wages, was it too much to ask him to stay at the training ground on the night before a home match to save a long journey? No loyalty or fight. Regardless of RVN he was clearly out of his depth back in the premiership, probably why no other teams other than us rushed in to buy him.

Its the managers job to manage the team he has, not put them on the spot and create a division over frankly nothing.  If your player has issues at home and feels he needs to be home overnight then you support them and make it work.  That is how you get players to play for you, not making a demand which puts them in a difficult position of choosing to prioritise their family or their dickhead boss.

[Bluearmyfox28]

On 22/07/2025 at 16:54, Phenom said:

40 million for both

If we get £35m for both I think we’ve done well if I’m being honest.

[sylofox]

On 22/07/2025 at 19:22, coolhandfox said:

I think it's very easy to make a judgement on snips of information. My observation would be he's attitude seem fine under Enzo and Cooper, which suggests there was more at play with RVN.

 

I'd agree he a very good championship player and probably a OK player in a PL team which can cover for his weakness which is physicality.

 

To honests that's not a massive rush for any of our players.

His attitude was fine under Enzo and cooper as they didn't ask him to stay at Seagrave one night a week.

 

Personally all players should live within a reasonable distance from the ground 30/40 miles and no more.

 

80/90k a week I wasn't on that a year took a transfer and the company in the end wanted me to move closer to Bedford as they were paying travel.

 

No excuse he's a selfish cvnt and RVN was not to blame. He's a professional sportsman on ridiculous money. RVN wanted him 100%  on game day not traveling 200+ miles.

 

RVN Wasn't upto it but don't call him out on this, he was totally right. NO player should be travelling like that for a home game ever. You want the money make the sacrifice ffs.

 

To add.

 

He's not got young kids at school. That could be a fair reason for not moving.

Edited 24 July 2025 by sylofox

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, sylofox said:

His attitude was fine under Enzo and cooper as they didn't ask him to stay at Seagrave one night a week.

 

Personally all players should live within a reasonable distance from the ground 30/40 miles and no more.

 

80/90k a week I wasn't on that a year took a transfer and the company in the end wanted me to move closer to Bedford as they were paying travel.

 

No excuse he's a selfish cvnt and RVN was not to blame. He's a professional sportsman on ridiculous money. RVN wanted him 100%  on game day not traveling 200+ miles.

 

RVN Wasn't upto it but don't call him out on this, he was totally right. NO player should be travelling like that for a home game ever. You want the money make the sacrifice ffs.

 

To add.

 

He's not got young kids at school. That could be a fair reason for not moving.

This is something you agree at the point of contract, you cannot impose it later on.  He might have had a wife who needed to be close to family for reasons which are none of our business.

[smudgerfox]

41 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

This is something you agree at the point of contract, you cannot impose it later on.  He might have had a wife who needed to be close to family for reasons which are none of our business.

Surely he should never have signed for Leicester then. Watford or Luton a better fit perhaps? 

[Jon the Hat]

18 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Surely he should never have signed for Leicester then. Watford or Luton a better fit perhaps? 

Why would he not sign IF he was not asked to move closer or stay overnight before games at that point?  You can't then demand it 18 months later and throw a hissy fit when he says no, it's pathetic and contrived.

[LCFCJohn]

2 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Why would he not sign IF he was not asked to move closer or stay overnight before games at that point?  You can't then demand it 18 months later and throw a hissy fit when he says no, it's pathetic and contrived.

People are asked to make changes in the work place. And only big changes would have a change in contract. Personally I don’t think staying one night in a hotel is a big change but I suppose that is a matter of opinion.

 

What it says to me about him is he is someone who resists change and is inflexible. 

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

His attitude was fine under Enzo and cooper as they didn't ask him to stay at Seagrave one night a week.

Pretty sure that being happening at the club for a while, it was nothing new. Maybe it was something that was discussed when he signed and something was agreed?

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

Personally all players should live within a reasonable distance from the ground 30/40 miles and no more.

Which probably take you out of the market for a lot of players, we had players comutting from as far a way as Manchester when we won the PL and FA Cup.

 

So why? 

 

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

80/90k a week I wasn't on that a year took a transfer and the company in the end wanted me to move closer to Bedford as they were paying travel.

I'm not sure how much you are being paid is relevant.

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

No excuse he's a selfish cvnt and RVN was not to blame. He's a professional sportsman on ridiculous money. RVN wanted him 100%  on game day not traveling 200+ miles.

 

RVN Wasn't upto it but don't call him out on this, he was totally right. NO player should be travelling like that for a home game ever. You want the money make the sacrifice ffs.

So did we see a increase in performance when RVN brought this in from other players.

 

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

To add.

 

He's not got young kids at school. That could be a fair reason for not moving.

So that makes a difference but have a new born doesn't? I can understand why someone would want to be a home under those circumstances.

 

I'm not saying Winks was right or RVN was wrong, but one incident doesn't make you a bad egg.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 24 July 2025 by coolhandfox

[sylofox]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

 

 

I'm not sure how much you are being paid is relevant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well 80/90k a week you could rent a house to live or buy s second house circa 25k a year means it's not that possible when you have a family.

[sylofox]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

 

 

I'm not saying Winks was right or RVN was wrong, but one incident doesn't make you a bad egg.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The incident doesn't make you a bad egg but how you respond does. Refusing to attend the next game. Not supporting his team in an hour of need.

 

The sooner he's gone the fvcking better. Not worth anywhere near what we pay him.

 

Imo he's on the next shelf up from Denis Wise. So one off of the floor. 

 

Get the cvnt out.

[kenny]

2 minutes ago, sylofox said:

The incident doesn't make you a bad egg but how you respond does. Refusing to attend the next game. Not supporting his team in an hour of need.

 

The sooner he's gone the fvcking better. Not worth anywhere near what we pay him.

 

Imo he's on the next shelf up from Denis Wise. So one off of the floor. 

 

Get the cvnt out.

Aperol Spritz on twitter on the day of our relegation?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Still maintain that no one is spending money on him when they could have had him for free last season.

 

He'll stay here and feign injury for most of the season imo. Which wouldn't be the worst thing as we can claim his wages on insurance.

[sylofox]

1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Which wouldn't be the worst thing as we can claim his wages on insurance.

You've obviously never had an injury that you're claiming for or been very lucky.

 

They don't just accept your word or a doctors for the average person. So on 70/80k a week 😆 not a chance.

 

I had an insurance PI follow me for two weeks after a serious back injury. It only stopped after police stopped him to see who he was and my solicitor put in an extra claim for harassment.