General News Thread

[CornwallFox]

12 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

 

BUt lOok aT WhaT thE ToRiEs Did bEfoRe labOUr

No, labour clearly aren't doing well in this regard. 

 

Labour not doing well now and the Tories being absolutely awful over 14 years can both be true. 

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

I understand that, we come from different sides of the political coin.

I can accept and understand you thinking that the BBC has erred and that you may view it more seriously than I do. 

All fair. 

But on the flip side I'd invite you to perhaps accept that compared to those other media outlets I've listed, the BBC is clearly less biased. 

There are shows that are more biased than the BBC, GB news to the right, it still has to have people on the left like Benjamin Butterworth and Matthew Stadlen on for balance, but then you have Channel 4 which has always been the young left wing channel, with shows like the last leg, and Channel 4 news with Jon (i've never seen so many white people) Snow, thing is they use advertising for funding so need an audience to survive whereas the BBC doesnt have that problem because we're forced to pay for it 

[Trav Le Bleu]

17 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

BBC is done and it's shocking how they've managed to self destruct. 

 

16 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

As I said BBC is done and dusted and while it's sinking it will also be destroyed from the inside with more to come. 

 

4 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

The damage is already done for the BBC and all trust is gone. 

 

4 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

As I said trust is gone. 

 

2 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

BBC is finished and they should have been more careful. Now it's too late. 

 

So... you're not holding out much hope for the BBC?

[leicsmac]

On the general topic of fake news and truth being subverted:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn51pn74l23o

 

An example where the cost of lies and ignorance is at best heavy, and at worst absolute. 

Edited 11 November 2025 by leicsmac

[Spiritwalker]

3 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

That's the problem. I'm talking strictly about this BBC incident and you bring into the equation other media outlets. If you want to talk about all the others we can do it in a different discussion. 

And yes GB News is representing and talks to a certain political demographic and this is irrelevant to what happened at the BBC. 

It's a joke you're trying to put under the carpet this serious incident. I don't care how much precious is this corporation for you. BBC is finished and they should have been more careful. Now it's too late. 

 

Utter nonsense.

[Super_horns]

Liverpool fans and the club themselves in uproar as the BBC interviewed Kelvin McKenzie apparently about the Trump scandal.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly49dndnn0o

Edited 11 November 2025 by Super_horns

[Bellend Sebastian]

Have some data you lovable scamps

 

https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/most-popular-websites-news-world-monthly-2/

[foxes1988]

48 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Have some data you lovable scamps

 

https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/most-popular-websites-news-world-monthly-2/

bUt ThE BbC iS fInIsHeD!

 

I do think it was pretty poor of the BBC but jesus does the BBC live rent free in the rights head 😄

[kenny]

50 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Have some data you lovable scamps

 

https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/most-popular-websites-news-world-monthly-2/

GB news has changed the narrative so much it doesn't appear to feature in that list. 

[Parafox]

5 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Now it's too late. 

 

 

4 hours ago, StanSP said:

5 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Now it's too late.

Is it? 

Rubbish statement 

 

I'm not even sure what is meant by that statement. Does he think the BBC are going to fold and fail and stop broadcasting.

 

Or is more likely that he resents the licence fee and will use any angle to diss the organisation?

Edited 11 November 2025 by Parafox

[Parafox]

2 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

 

 

 

So... you're not holding out much hope for the BBC?

 

Anti-BBC dogma.

[Sly]

The license fee is what £100 a year? It’s hardly breaking the bank for what we get back. 
 

The BBC is still the most balanced and best portrayed news outlet in the world in my opinion.

 

I’d say they are slightly left, however as someone that is centre / right I can live with that.

 

All this fuss over a badly edited video is crazy.

 

Trump incited a riot, we all know he incited a riot, just because he’s absconded himself and all those involved with the issue, doesn’t mean he’s not guilty.

 

The line, history is written by the victor was true for so, so long. However now with 24 hours rolling news. You can’t bury stuff like these people did for centuries, as we all witnessed it. 

[CornwallFox]

3 hours ago, splinterdream said:

There are shows that are more biased than the BBC, GB news to the right, it still has to have people on the left like Benjamin Butterworth and Matthew Stadlen on for balance, but then you have Channel 4 which has always been the young left wing channel, with shows like the last leg, and Channel 4 news with Jon (i've never seen so many white people) Snow, thing is they use advertising for funding so need an audience to survive whereas the BBC doesnt have that problem because we're forced to pay for it 

Without the BBC trying to be impartial - even if it gets it wrong sometimes then holds itself account to a degree no other broadcaster does - then it's a field day for the others. The BBC is needed. 

[leicsmac]

24 minutes ago, Sly said:

The license fee is what £100 a year? It’s hardly breaking the bank for what we get back. 
 

The BBC is still the most balanced and best portrayed news outlet in the world in my opinion.

 

I’d say they are slightly left, however as someone that is centre / right I can live with that.

 

All this fuss over a badly edited video is crazy.

 

Trump incited a riot, we all know he incited a riot, just because he’s absconded himself and all those involved with the issue, doesn’t mean he’s not guilty.

 

The line, history is written by the victor was true for so, so long. However now with 24 hours rolling news. You can’t bury stuff like these people did for centuries, as we all witnessed it. 

You can't, but then those who would engage in and excuse these acts have simply pivoted to the idea of "fake news" and the subversion of the very idea of truth in order to discredit such sources and so keep on as they wish, engaging in their often bigoted abuses of power.  

 

And, regrettably, in a number of places, that idea is winning. Which is dire for everyone. 

Edited 11 November 2025 by leicsmac

[Fear Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Parafox said:

 

Rubbish statement 

 

I'm not even sure what is meant by that statement. Does he think the BBC are going to fold and fail and stop broadcasting.

 

Or is more likely that he resents the licence fee and will use any angle to diss the organisation?

BBC will lose millions of people and it won't be able to generate revenue via the common commercial routes. It's not rocket science to understand that its reputation has taken a huge hit. It's one thing doing wishful thinking and trying to present the incident as a minor mistake but on the other hand the media market isn't operating like this. Because some of you believe nothing major happened doesn't mean this is the case. 

That said, will see very soon the impact or not of this "mistake". 

[Fear Of The Fox]

31 minutes ago, Sly said:

The license fee is what £100 a year? It’s hardly breaking the bank for what we get back. 
 

The BBC is still the most balanced and best portrayed news outlet in the world in my opinion.

 

I’d say they are slightly left, however as someone that is centre / right I can live with that.

 

All this fuss over a badly edited video is crazy.

 

Trump incited a riot, we all know he incited a riot, just because he’s absconded himself and all those involved with the issue, doesn’t mean he’s not guilty.

 

The line, history is written by the victor was true for so, so long. However now with 24 hours rolling news. You can’t bury stuff like these people did for centuries, as we all witnessed it. 

Are you a BBC employee? Can you please send the link that proves the licence fee is £100 a year? You're lying like all these BBC/Panorama criminals that deliberately stitched a video. 

[Lionator]

37 minutes ago, Sly said:

The license fee is what £100 a year? It’s hardly breaking the bank for what we get back. 
 

The BBC is still the most balanced and best portrayed news outlet in the world in my opinion.

 

I’d say they are slightly left, however as someone that is centre / right I can live with that.

 

All this fuss over a badly edited video is crazy.

 

Trump incited a riot, we all know he incited a riot, just because he’s absconded himself and all those involved with the issue, doesn’t mean he’s not guilty.

 

The line, history is written by the victor was true for so, so long. However now with 24 hours rolling news. You can’t bury stuff like these people did for centuries, as we all witnessed it. 

It’s £178 as I paid it last week. For me it’s worth the money, we’ve just had a brilliant series of Traitors, I listen to a mix of Radio 2, 4, 5 and 6 throughout the day, sports commentary, local radio. 

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

BBC will lose millions of people and it won't be able to generate revenue via the common commercial routes. It's not rocket science to understand that its reputation has taken a huge hit. It's one thing doing wishful thinking and trying to present the incident as a minor mistake but on the other hand the media market isn't operating like this. Because some of you believe nothing major happened doesn't mean this is the case. 

That said, will see very soon the impact or not of this "mistake". 

 

8 hours ago, leicsmac said:

The wider context is vital to the discussion. This incident didn't happen in a vacuum and I'm not sure why it should be considered as such. 

 

I'm going to ask this again, for the answer or benefit of anyone (as opposed to just the OP), because, again, I think it is a vital question. 

 

NB. And, I hasten to add, I haven't mentioned either wing either. This is about, truth, lies, the amount of them and the damage they cause - that goes beyond the political sometimes. 

 

13 hours ago, leicsmac said:

OK, so let's say this does occur, and as a result media championed by Trump and his ilk have the freedom to shape and broadcast the "truth" as they see fit, with all the consequences that entails. 

 

Is that a desirious outcome, and if so, might I ask why?

 

I've asked variations of this question a few times now but I'm still looking for an answer, because people appear to want the Beeb to suffer punishment for this lapse (which, I hasten to add, I don't disagree with), but don't seem to have much of a vision of the future after that occurs. I believe that showing such foresight is rather important to a good cover of the discussion. 

Still waiting. 

 

No rush, but an answer or a straight rebuttal would be appreciated. 

[Sly]

9 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Are you a BBC employee? Can you please send the link that proves the licence fee is £100 a year? You're lying like all these BBC/Panorama criminals that deliberately stitched a video. 

Nope, that’s why I put the question mark. It sort of comes out of the bank whenever it’s due that’s it done and dusted for the year. 

 

Do you work for Sky / ITV, as you are very anti BBC  

 

What did they ever do to you?

[Sly]

11 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Are you a BBC employee? Can you please send the link that proves the licence fee is £100 a year? You're lying like all these BBC/Panorama criminals that deliberately stitched a video. 

Also, how am I lying? I asked a question. 

[Sly]

8 minutes ago, Lionator said:

It’s £178 as I paid it last week. For me it’s worth the money, we’ve just had a brilliant series of Traitors, I listen to a mix of Radio 2, 4, 5 and 6 throughout the day, sports commentary, local radio. 

Thank you. 
 

Agreed, a drop in the ocean for the quality you get back for it. 

[CWC1983]

7 minutes ago, Lionator said:

It’s £178 as I paid it last week. For me it’s worth the money, we’ve just had a brilliant series of Traitors, I listen to a mix of Radio 2, 4, 5 and 6 throughout the day, sports commentary, local radio. 

I probobly get my moneys worth from BBC Sounds alone via live radio and podcasts while on the go. 

 

Iplayer documentaries are worth it as well. 

 

Couldn't tell you the last time I watched the news. 

[Sly]

8 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

 

Still waiting. 

 

No rush, but an answer or a straight rebuttal would be appreciated. 

I don’t think 95% of the country care that the BBC has upset the orange bloke on the other side of the pond.

 

The statement that this will cost the BBC millions is quite clearly wrong and the media channels that pedal “FAKE NEWS” are quite frankly, running it themselves.

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, Sly said:

I don’t think 95% of the country care that the BBC has upset the orange bloke on the other side of the pond.

 

The statement that this will cost the BBC millions is quite clearly wrong and the media channels that pedal “FAKE NEWS” are quite frankly, running it themselves.

You might be right, but given the ascendancy of such thought (as evidenced by current UK polling figures) and the consequences of them taking hold for too long, I'm inclined to take any such sentiments seriously and challenge them whenever they occur. 

[Fear Of The Fox]

7 minutes ago, Sly said:

Nope, that’s why I put the question mark. It sort of comes out of the bank whenever it’s due that’s it done and dusted for the year. 

 

Do you work for Sky / ITV, as you are very anti BBC  

 

What did they ever do to you?

You assume I'm anti BBC because I've expressed my disappointment regarding the specific criminal act. I've already said I'm still paying the fee despite not needing one. You're just chasing dragons and failing to see my point of view. 

BBC must publish a lengthy sincere apology but instead of doing this they're siding with politicians making the situation worse.