General News Thread

[danny.]

18 minutes ago, Lionator said:

True, the people that already can’t get on the mortgage ladder (and no that’s not because of asylum seekers). 

That seems more down to the insane house prices than anything. They’ve been out of control for decades combined with stagnation. 
 

18 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Islamic ideology is for the most part peace and love. Maybe the divide is really just on how much we believe Islam is a force for ill or don't believe it is (not the same as believing it's a force for good, as I'd rather we had no religions). 

It really isn't. How familiar are you with the history of Islam and the Qur’an and hadith?

[Stevosevic]

3 minutes ago, Trumpet said:

First point on older white people that still squirm at gay people - agreed and in my view and most, is wrong.

 

On Muslims in the UK not stopping people being gay - because they're thankfully not able to. Are gay Muslim’s in the UK unable to be openly so, due to religion and culture? I’d say so. 

Well said.

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Fundamentally, it is. 

 

Radical and extremist Islam isn't. Much like any other radical and extremist far right group relying on religion and culture to see their point through.

 

There is only 15 majority Muslim countries in the world where being gay is legal. So are all the other 40 or so radical and extremist?  
 

Trumpet is right in their post above. 

[StanSP]

Just now, Stevosevic said:

Well said.

There is only 15 majority Muslim countries in the world where being gay is legal. So are all the other 40 or so radical and extremist?  
 

Trumpet is right in their post above. 

No. That's not what I've said and you know it. 

[Stevosevic]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

No. That's not what I've said and you know it. 

I think you would be right to call it out as extremism tbh.

 

Any person that disagrees with being gay in the name of any religion is absolutely a religious extremist. 
 

 

[danny.]

19 minutes ago, Lionator said:

There are many older white people that still squirm at us gay people. Everyone laughing about pronouns and whatever too. Muslims in the uk aren’t stopping anyone from being gay. Again what do you suggest we do about it?

"White" isn't an ideology though.

In the UK - other than forcing people into heterosexual marriages, Islam isn't stopping people from being gay, as you put it - but in many Islamic countries that's a very different story.
 

[Spudulike]

15 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

 

Elements of the illegal migration act 2023 that banned migrants entering the UK irregularly from claiming asylum were never enforced and are in the process of being repealed. To claim asylum an immigrant simply have to tell a border force officer that is their intention. So in reality what you're saying isn't true.

 

For the record, the new laws Labour are seeking to enact look to Denmark as inspiration, a country where asylum claims are currently at a 40 year low. 

 

 

The word you are looking for is illegal not irregular.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/illegal-migration-bill

 

Whether it's enforced or not, this is the law today. My statement is true.

[danny.]

20 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Fundamentally, it is. 

 

Radical and extremist Islam isn't. Much like any other radical and extremist far right group relying on religion and culture to see their point through.

 

Classic taqiyya - unfortunately awareness of Islamic ideology is a lot higher than it used to be and people see right through this.

[Samilktray]

To be fair if the brown people take over in within 50 years at least the food will be great 

[The Bear]

Having heard what she's said after her win, I'd definitely vote for her if she was my MP.

 

I always vote Green any way, and have done since I was about 20.

[Zear0]

 

 

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly14vppym2o

 

Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said India and Israel would deepen cooperation in defence and artificial intelligence as he concluded a two-day visit to Israel.

Modi and his Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu said in a joint statement, external on Thursday that their countries would work towards pursuing a free trade agreement.

"We've taken a historic decision to elevate our time-tested partnership to a Special Strategic Partnership," Modi said in a post on X.

Modi's second visit to Israel since 2017 has been seen as a test of India's foreign policy as it tries to balance its ties with Israel and other Middle Eastern countries.

 

Religious nationalists with a penchant for treating certain demographics as subhuman flock together, clearly. 

[Zear0]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/27/us-urges-citizens-leave-israel-threat-strike-iran

 

 

Not exactly optimistic from the nuclear negotiation perspective when you order your diplomatic staff to go "literally anywhere"... 

[danny.]

5 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

 

 

Sounds more like a Lee Anderson move TBH!

[Joe90]

2 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

Genuine question for those so accepting of all people outside of controlled migration.

 

How do you think Europe will look in 50 years time? Do you think we are on a better path currently? 

Absolutely not 

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/ice-hockey/articles/cqj9w4xz1l0o

 

USA men's ice hockey player Brady Tkachuk has distanced himself from an AI-enhanced White House video in which he appears to disparage Canadians, saying "those words would never come out of my mouth".

The video was published on the official White House TikTok account after the US beat Canada on Sunday to win gold at the Winter Olympics and is marked as using artificial intelligence.

It features a modified clip of Tkachuk speaking at a news conference for last year's 4 Nations Face-Off, during which Canadians booed the US national anthem.

Tkachuk appears to say: "They booed our national anthem, so I had to come out and teach those maple-syrup-eating [expletive] a lesson. Canada, we own you little bro."

Tkachuk is captain of the Ottawa Senators and after playing in the Canadian team's first NHL game since the Olympics, he said: "Well, it's clearly fake, because it's not my voice, not my lips moving.

"I'm not in control of any of those accounts," he added. "I know that those words would never come out of my mouth, so I can't do anything about it.

"It's not what I was saying. I would never say that. It's not who I am. So I guess I don't like that video."

The White House has been contacted for a response.

 

If you don't like your likeness and voice being used without consent that much, Mr. Tkachuk, then legal action is always available. If you have a spine. 

 

Perhaps that might cause the current US administration engaging in such violations of consent to think a little more about it before doing so. 

 

On the general topic, what kind of timeline is this when this is happening in the first place?

[BlueSi13]

10 hours ago, StanSP said:

That's superb for the Greens, devastating for Reform and even more devastating for Labour. 

 

Good start to the day nonetheless. 

Devastating for Reform?  They over doubled their vote share and are now polling nearly 30% in one of the safest left-wing seats in the country.  The fact that people were even talking about them potentially winning the seat shows how far they've come.  The idea of them winning would have been laughed out of town just a few years ago.  Project this performance nationally and they are well on course to win the next GE.  

 

If you want devastating, look at Labour who lost the seat for the first time in nearly a 100 years and the Conservatives who had their worst by-election of all time.  

 

The Greens are of course full of it today but it was the block Pakistani muslim vote that won it for them.  They are increasingly becoming a fluffier version of George Galloway's Workers Party.

 

But the increasingly sectarian nature of a lot of the voting in some of our major cities should be of increasing concern to everyone.  The Greens though, like Labour before them, won't mind though as it's winning them seats.  However, eventually we end up with Tower Hamlets.  Dark times ahead.

 

 

[RowlattsFox]

Is it simple as usual left wing votes go to greens and usual right wing votes go to reform.

 

Just a sign of how untrusted the traditional main 2 parties are. Whether that continues when it's a general election is a different matter. 

[leicsmac]

16 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said:

Devastating for Reform?  They over doubled their vote share and are now polling nearly 30% in one of the safest left-wing seats in the country.  The fact that people were even talking about them potentially winning the seat shows how far they've come.  The idea of them winning would have been laughed out of town just a few years ago.  Project this performance nationally and they are well on course to win the next GE.  

 

If you want devastating, look at Labour who lost the seat for the first time in nearly a 100 years and the Conservatives who had their worst by-election of all time.  

 

The Greens are of course full of it today but it was the block Pakistani muslim vote that won it for them.  They are increasingly becoming a fluffier version of George Galloway's Workers Party.

 

But the increasingly sectarian nature of a lot of the voting in some of our major cities should be of increasing concern to everyone.  The Greens though, like Labour before them, won't mind though as it's winning them seats.  However, eventually we end up with Tower Hamlets.  Dark times ahead.

 

 

Which, if true, should concern anyone with an iota of concern about the future of all of us (as opposed to the present of one group of us) rather more than apparent sectarian voting patterns that may be developing along lines people find distasteful because it's not "them" doing it. 

 

The nationalism that Reform embodies leads to the darkest times. History is very clear on that. It's perplexing, and concerning, why so many people would seem hellbent on repeating it, when the result is always the same and (thanks to tech developments) will be much worse if it repeats once again. 

[FoxesDeb]

33 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said:

Devastating for Reform?  They over doubled their vote share and are now polling nearly 30% in one of the safest left-wing seats in the country.  The fact that people were even talking about them potentially winning the seat shows how far they've come.  The idea of them winning would have been laughed out of town just a few years ago.  Project this performance nationally and they are well on course to win the next GE.  

 

If you want devastating, look at Labour who lost the seat for the first time in nearly a 100 years and the Conservatives who had their worst by-election of all time.  

 

The Greens are of course full of it today but it was the block Pakistani muslim vote that won it for them.  They are increasingly becoming a fluffier version of George Galloway's Workers Party.

 

But the increasingly sectarian nature of a lot of the voting in some of our major cities should be of increasing concern to everyone.  The Greens though, like Labour before them, won't mind though as it's winning them seats.  However, eventually we end up with Tower Hamlets.  Dark times ahead.

 

 

If this happens then yes, dark times ahead indeed.

 

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

If this happens then yes, dark times ahead indeed.

 

 

May well be the crux of the problem. 

[Stevosevic]

44 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Which, if true, should concern anyone with an iota of concern about the future of all of us (as opposed to the present of one group of us) rather more than apparent sectarian voting patterns that may be developing along lines people find distasteful because it's not "them" doing it. 

 

The nationalism that Reform embodies leads to the darkest times. History is very clear on that. It's perplexing, and concerning, why so many people would seem hellbent on repeating it, when the result is always the same and (thanks to tech developments) will be much worse if it repeats once again. 

Interested to know more on your thoughts of your definition of nationalism, genuinely.

 

Is it wrong for any country for its people to be proud of their nation and at the same time want their nation to remain that way? As opposed to inviting people in who dislike you - people can pretend all they want that this isn’t the case. 

 

We are seeing a wave across Europe of people wanting to protect their countries culture and traditions. Why do the left smear this? I’m sure they wouldn’t if it was an African or Asian country wanting the same.

 

They are also fine with the same nationalism being shown by Pakistanis waving their flag across cities in the UK. 

Edited 27 February by Stevosevic

[brucey]

4 hours ago, StanSP said:

You make it sound like that's only an Islam problem. When it quite obviously isn't just that. 

 

Not quite the 'gotcha' you think it is. 

 

It might not just be an Islam problem, but it's more of a problem in Islam. 

 

The punishments for homosexuality in Shariah law are generally more severe than the punishments in civil/Christian law. Pretty much all the death penalty countries are majority Muslim, while the imprisonment countries can be either Muslim or Christian. 

 

[danny.]

11 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Interested to know more on your thoughts of your definition of nationalism, genuinely.

 

Is it wrong for any country for its people to be proud of their nation and at the same time want their nation to remain that way? As opposed to inviting people in who dislike you - people can pretend all they want that this isn’t the case. 

 

We are seeing a wave across Europe of people wanting to protect their countries culture and traditions. Why do the left smear this? I’m sure they wouldn’t if it was an African or Asian country wanting the same.

 

They are also fine with the same nationalism being shown by Pakistanis waving their flag across cities in the UK. 

As a rule - is the country majority white? Then nationalism is wrong. Otherwise, it's good.

[brucey]

5 hours ago, StanSP said:

I've not come across a Muslim person who disagrees with the general lifestyle here. I don't see them complaining about people drinking, eating pork or bacon, not fasting during Ramadan, embracing Christmas and Easter and other holidays celebrated here. 

They may not complain publicly to your face, but there's plenty who do disagree privately. I work in the NHS and I have seen a Muslim colleague posting homophobic content on their personal Facebook. Perhaps they didn't think it would be publicly visible, their profile was just under "people you may know". 

[danny.]

3 minutes ago, brucey said:

They may not complain publicly to your face, but there's plenty who do disagree privately. I work in the NHS and I have seen a Muslim colleague posting homophobic content on their personal Facebook. Perhaps they didn't think it would be publicly visible, their profile was just under "people you may know". 

If he wasn't he wouldn't be a muslim - the Islamist position isn't vague: https://www.anic.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Islams-Clear-Position-on-Homosexuality.pdf