General News Thread

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Thank goodness their self interest came down on the right side is the only thing that mattered to people at the time

Certainly. But just because it happened once, it might be the best idea to trust it to happen again. 

 

I think that perhaps is the point being made here.

Edited 1 March by leicsmac

[StanSP]

Ironic that Trump claims he stops so many wars but you don't see many journalists call out how many he starts or continues... 

[FoxesDeb]

Wasn't DT the one who campaigned on never starting a war in the middle East? And also said that Obama would, to cause a distraction,  because he was a shit negotiater? Does he really think that the western world has forgotten about the Epstein files?

 

DT is an absolute shitstain on democracy, and it blows my mind that people in the UK are ready to vote for shitstain lite in Nigel Farage. 

 

[Foxdiamond]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Certainly. But just because it happened once, it might be the best idea to trust it to happen again. 

 

I think that perhaps is the point being made here.

I was trying to make a narrow point about WW2. 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I was trying to make a narrow point about WW2. 

Which was 100% accurate but only a part of the overall picture, more's the pity. 

[Lionator]

Honestly one of the dumbest most pointless interventions in the history of dumb pointless interventions. You either go balls in and invade, or you do nothing. Instead we’ve been left with this utterly pointless charade. 

[Foxdiamond]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Which was 100% accurate but only a part of the overall picture, more's the pity. 

Won't disagree with that

[Jattdogg]

47 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Ironic that Trump claims he stops so many wars but you don't see many journalists call out how many he starts or continues... 

I mean, it's not a war. It's some locker room banter and horse play. Boys being boy's. All is forgiven. No hard feelings, move along nothing to see here. 

[CosbehFox]

Starmer taking flak for not taking a position at all. Well apart from us having jets in the air.

 

If you ask me it’s probably the right move. 
 

Reform for a party which are supposedly for Britain first. They seem do an awful lot of wanting us to spend money getting involved in military exercise. It’s not lost on me that the right wing parties of the moment aren’t using the position that Britain needs to concentrate on its self and rebuild, get their nose out of other scenarios. 

[worthosoriginals]

1 hour ago, FoxesDeb said:

Wasn't DT the one who campaigned on never starting a war in the middle East? And also said that Obama would, to cause a distraction,  because he was a shit negotiater? Does he really think that the western world has forgotten about the Epstein files?

 

DT is an absolute shitstain on democracy, and it blows my mind that people in the UK are ready to vote for shitstain lite in Nigel Farage. 

 

Post of the day that is there deb, spot on.

[CosbehFox]

9 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

Are some people actually ok with Islamic regimes like Khamenei oppressing people against their will? 

I’m not. 
 

But it’s a decision what’s just bumped up oil prices, and got the BOE getting tetchy about a rate cut. Therefore affecting us all again when it comes to the price of energy and mortgages 

[danny.]

5 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

I’m not. 
 

But it’s a decision what’s just bumped up oil prices, and got the BOE getting tetchy about a rate cut. Therefore affecting us all again when it comes to the price of energy and mortgages 

It’s a fair point but our energy doesn’t have to be as expensive as it is. We’re the most expensive for non-domestic and second for domestic, our government could bring down costs if they wanted to, every other country on the planet has managed it. 

[CornwallFox]

16 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Starmer taking flak for not taking a position at all. Well apart from us having jets in the air.

 

If you ask me it’s probably the right move. 
 

Reform for a party which are supposedly for Britain first. They seem do an awful lot of wanting us to spend money getting involved in military exercise. It’s not lost on me that the right wing parties of the moment aren’t using the position that Britain needs to concentrate on its self and rebuild, get their nose out of other scenarios. 

He has taken a position. The right one that I would imagine is supported my the vast majority of Brits that will want nothing to do with war with Iran. Reform and Tories definitely not got public opinion behind them on this one.

[CornwallFox]

10 minutes ago, danny. said:

It’s a fair point but our energy doesn’t have to be as expensive as it is. We’re the most expensive for non-domestic and second for domestic, our government could bring down costs if they wanted to, every other country on the planet has managed it. 

We are pretty much the only country on earth that doesn't own it's own energy. Hence GB energy being set up to try to change that. You ain't changing high costs while the status quo exists, the whole point of GB energy is it gets around privatised contracts etc.

[st albans fox]

30 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Starmer taking flak for not taking a position at all. Well apart from us having jets in the air.

 

If you ask me it’s probably the right move. 
 

Reform for a party which are supposedly for Britain first. They seem do an awful lot of wanting us to spend money getting involved in military exercise. It’s not lost on me that the right wing parties of the moment aren’t using the position that Britain needs to concentrate on its self and rebuild, get their nose out of other scenarios. 

He has a nack of upsetting the largest number of people whatever decision he makes! 

tbh, if the Americans really needed our bases then maybe he would have conceded.  The fact they’ve come back and asked again shows that the continued attacks on the gulf states was probably not on the Americans ‘Iranian defensive playlist’.   I assume this is about allowing use of Cyprus because the Americans already have bases in Bahrain and Qatar. 
 

EDIT: sky say Diego Garcia and fairford. 
Diego Garcia is I think suitable for B2 

no idea about fairford

looks like we don’t want Cyprus used because it’s in range of Iran’s missiles. 
If the Iranians properly attack Cyprus then they will drag us in offensively. 
 

the Americans seem not to want to use their gulf bases because they are easy to be attacked and also draw attacks onto the gulf states. 
 

Edited 1 March by st albans fox

[CornwallFox]

10 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

Are some people actually ok with Islamic regimes like Khamenei oppressing people against their will? 

Do you agree with Tony Blair that regime change in Iraq means military action was correct? 

[UniFox21]

Was hoping we'd not be involved in this affair, looks like we've given US permission to use our air bases, and have shot down a drone headed whist a fighter was on a defensive sweep

[danny.]

13 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

We are pretty much the only country on earth that doesn't own it's own energy. Hence GB energy being set up to try to change that. You ain't changing high costs while the status quo exists, the whole point of GB energy is it gets around privatised contracts etc.

“Pretty much the only country on earth” is a stretch. I agree that we’re unusual among comparable developed nations though. The US energy market is largely private and cheaper than us (we’ll pretty much everyone is cheaper than us). 
 

Can’t agree with the claim that GB Energy “gets around privatised contracts.” It really doesn’t, It’s not re-nationalising anything or replacing existing energy companies. It’s an investment and development company that co-invests with the private sector. It won’t even supply electricity to households. 
 

It *might* help with costs long term but it’s not going to bypass our current market structure. 
 

Reforming the marginal pricing model would make a much bigger impact and far more quickly. 

[Lionator]

19 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Do you agree with Tony Blair that regime change in Iraq means military action was correct? 

Iraq is quite stable these days!

[worthosoriginals]

32 minutes ago, danny. said:

It’s a fair point but our energy doesn’t have to be as expensive as it is. We’re the most expensive for non-domestic and second for domestic, our government could bring down costs if they wanted to, every other country on the planet has managed it. 

 

[Lionator]

14 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Was hoping we'd not be involved in this affair, looks like we've given US permission to use our air bases, and have shot down a drone headed whist a fighter was on a defensive sweep

It makes me laugh that ‘we shot a drone down with a jet’ is being used by our MOD as some kind of flex. Using air to air missiles for drones is a colossal waste of money. Equally Starmer’s “Iran’s actions are putting British citizens at risk”. Well mate, I wonder why the Iranian government (as evil as they are) are firing missiles at every US base in the Middle East????

[danny.]

Edit: must not feed the troll. 

Edited 1 March by danny.

[CornwallFox]

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Edited 1 March by CornwallFox

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I think the most baffling thing of this whole situation is people still being surprised that a region that has been at war with itself for 3000 years, continues to be at war with itself now 

[Tommy G]

Some kind of explosion at a British base in Cyprus - if this is Iran then KS will have no choice but to wade in