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25 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

KP took over in August 2010 when we had just finished 5th in the Championship and missed the play off final on penalties. Either way, under Pearson, we were in safe hands, had a solid squad and were looking up, likely would have pushed for promotion the following season. 
 

Even the most ardent KP lovers must be able to open their eyes and see we are officially now in a worse position than when they took over. Yes, you can’t put a price

on the trophies they were part of. And part of, they didn’t ’win them for us as many claim’.

 

But the health of the club, direction and trajectory are in a worse position than when they came. This is more like 2004/05 now. 


Completely irrelevant post

and over simplistic even though I’m very much in agreement with your overall point. 

 

The problem isn’t “King Power”, it is what King Power has become, it’s not about the past,  Pearson, anything else of that nature, and more how the death of the person who built it and the added complication of the Pandemic has affected it. 
 

I want Top to go as much for his own sake as ours, he is no business man. No one can accuse him of being purposely negligent, he’s just inefficient. Had he been able to perhaps get more years with his father and mature a bit more himself before taking over from him unexpectedly he might have been better equipped to do it. On a personal level I feel for him. It’s a horrendous way to lose your father but also at the same time take on a ridiculous amount of responsibility you were not expecting. 
 

But unfortunately we live in reality and the state of the family business and both of the football clubs they own has declined severely with no sign of recovery, anywhere. On lookers from other clubs might call us ungrateful, I’d argue who the **** is this situation benefitting? Certainly not us? I don’t see what personal gratification Top is getting out of being here any longer, he’s slowly eroding everything his father built, he 100% is not going to turn it around as his main business is an absolute mess still.
 

If I were him struggling this badly I would hold my hands up sell the lot and live the life most normal people with his business account could only dream of and thank his lucky stars, the alternative he carries on and keeps losing more and more money every year. 

 

The overriding point is it’s best for both parties if the clubs sold, king power should always have a special place in the heart of every Leicester fan, and they have done a fantastic job. Situation's have just dedicated its time for us to go our separate ways now, whether we are in a worse position now compared to when they took over is largely irrelevant. They are in a far worse possession as a company, so it’s not surprising. 
 

 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:


Completely irrelevant post

and over simplistic even though I’m very much in agreement with your overall point. 

 

The problem isn’t “King Power”, it is what King Power has become, it’s not about the past,  Pearson, anything else of that nature, and more how the death of the person who built it and the added complication of the Pandemic has affected it. 
 

I want Top to go as much for his own sake as ours, he is no business man. No one can accuse him of being purposely negligent, he’s just inefficient. Had he been able to perhaps get more years with his father and mature a bit more himself before taking over from him unexpectedly he might have been better equipped to do it. On a personal level I feel for him. It’s a horrendous way to lose your father but also at the same time take on a ridiculous amount of responsibility you were not expecting. 
 

But unfortunately we live in reality and the state of the family business and both of the football clubs they own has declined severely with no sign of recovery, anywhere. On lookers from other clubs might call us ungrateful, I’d argue who the **** is this situation benefitting? Certainly not us? I don’t see what personal gratification Top is getting out of being here any longer, he’s slowly eroding everything his father built, he 100% is not going to turn it around as his main business is an absolute mess still.
 

If I were him struggling this badly I would hold my hands up sell the lot and live the life most normal people with his business account could only dream of and thank his lucky stars, the alternative he carries on and keeps losing more and more money every year. 

 

The overriding point is it’s best for both parties if the clubs sold, king power should always have a special place in the heart of every Leicester fan, and they have done a fantastic job. Situation's have just dedicated its time for us to go our separate ways now, whether we are in a worse position now compared to when they took over is largely irrelevant. They are in a far worse possession as a company, so it’s not surprising. 
 

 

To be fair, it was meant as a simplistic point.  The defence of KP has been around the achievements under their ownership and the ‘we were in L1 once BS argument’.
 

The first is living in the past and is ok when things are going well but is not ok as a deflection or reason not to take criticism when being incompetent and destroying what those before build, where Vichai or Nigel. The second is interesting as it has been used, in my view, as a justification, that whilst we are higher in the pyramid, it’s ok. Now in fairness, maybe we should see where we are at the end of the season. However, I think it looks increasingly unlikely we won’t match the 5th place finish before they took over as we are getting worse not better!

 

Regarding what has happened, death is horrible and what happened particularly so. But people suffer horrible loss and go on to do great things to make their departed proud. He was also no child. He was a mid 30’s grown up man. I disagree this would have been different had he had a few more years with Vichai. I think it is simply the case he is a nepo baby. I don’t mean this as an insult but in the official meaning. He had everything handed to him but was clearly never of the right character to carry that on. 
 

I agree with what you say though. I am very angry at KP and Aiyawatt for what they have done to this club in recent years in terms of the decline of the culture of the club. This is not about league position or relegation, but about the way supporters are treated and the squad of mercenaries as well as the financial mismanagement. 
 

I hope though that this is a balanced way of sharing those concerns.

Posted
1 hour ago, Salieri said:

utmost respect and admiration I had for his father. 
 

Not digging you out in particular mate, just a general comment about the beatification of Vichai. There's too many who speak about him in such reverential terms..

 

He was a bloke who pumped helluva lot of money (from questionable origins) into us, and kept doing it until he got lucky. And seemed a pretty decent fella to boot. Nothing more, nothing less. 

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Today hit home how bad our recruitment has been but especially last year in the prem. 

 

Okoli…. He can’t pass a ball 5 yards.. who has scouted him and thought he’s well worth £15 odd million or whatever we paid. 
 

Ayew - everyone knew it when he was linked. He’s crap. I don’t recall a single FT poster suggesting it was great business. Everyone was baffled. 

Skipp - see above for Ayew.

 

You then look at Leeds, Sunderland etc and the signings they have made. It’s embarrassing compared to our PL window. 
 

Then add into that the previous seasons windows and the amount of money we have spent on shite …. Daka, VK, Faes,  Vestergaard, Soumare etc

 

its no wonder we have declined to where we have. Only one person to blame for all of that and it’s Top.

 

Time to sell up. He’s a poison to the club. 

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1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

To be fair, it was meant as a simplistic point.  The defence of KP has been around the achievements under their ownership and the ‘we were in L1 once BS argument’.
 

The first is living in the past and is ok when things are going well but is not ok as a deflection or reason not to take criticism when being incompetent and destroying what those before build, where Vichai or Nigel. The second is interesting as it has been used, in my view, as a justification, that whilst we are higher in the pyramid, it’s ok. Now in fairness, maybe we should see where we are at the end of the season. However, I think it looks increasingly unlikely we won’t match the 5th place finish before they took over as we are getting worse not better!

 

Regarding what has happened, death is horrible and what happened particularly so. But people suffer horrible loss and go on to do great things to make their departed proud. He was also no child. He was a mid 30’s grown up man. I disagree this would have been different had he had a few more years with Vichai. I think it is simply the case he is a nepo baby. I don’t mean this as an insult but in the official meaning. He had everything handed to him but was clearly never of the right character to carry that on. 
 

I agree with what you say though. I am very angry at KP and Aiyawatt for what they have done to this club in recent years in terms of the decline of the culture of the club. This is not about league position or relegation, but about the way supporters are treated and the squad of mercenaries as well as the financial mismanagement. 
 

I hope though that this is a balanced way of sharing those concerns.


No at all it’s actually a very good post mate. 
 

I think you need to re read mine though and Perhaps appreciate the sentiment a bit more. 
 

Tops essentially a lost little boy without his father,  I mean for most of us on here we are used to that as that is life, for him, not so much. The silver spoon tends to work in two ways in my experience, kids that take it and drive with it and ones that fold under pressure. 
 

He appears to be the later. 
 

And that’s why he’s just better off calling it a day. 
 

 

 

 

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Why would he sell? He can say he was here during the title win. He was the reason behind the FA Cup win. He gets adoration from the West Stand and the social media accounts who blame the fans for being annoyed at losing.

 

Look at the Championship trophy lift 18 months ago. A division we should never have been in after a disgraceful relegation and a season in which it appears we broke the rules. He walks out to the adoring public with a billion nobodies soaking it in. Give it five years, we might reach a play-off final and he can brings loads more to Wembley.

 

Why give that up?

Posted
2 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Not digging you out in particular mate, just a general comment about the beatification of Vichai. There's too many who speak about him in such reverential terms..

 

He was a bloke who pumped helluva lot of money (from questionable origins) into us, and kept doing it until he got lucky. And seemed a pretty decent fella to boot. Nothing more, nothing less. 


He was far more than that, he was a man who bought an entire club, fans, players, staff together and achieved great things. 
 

You show that post to any of the title winning squad of 2016, they would tell you you should be ashamed of yourself, and you should be ashamed of yourself. 

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Posted
Just now, Pliskin said:

How anyone can stand by him now is utterly deluded or just plagued by blind loyalty. 
 

Top has destroyed his father’s legacy and King Power have now outstayed their welcome. We’ve got ourselves to blame…. Or Top to be precise. 
 

The club is now entering a state of crisis….. not enough has been said about how utterly unacceptable the summer was…. Terrified to make decisions because of PSR, the damage that has been done by King Power may well be irreversible.  
 

Failure to get promoted this season will set us back decades (if that hasn’t happened already) and it really cannot be watered down as to how much of an absolutely catastrophic failure this is……. Surely going from winning the league, FA cup and knocking on the door of Europe to this, is not acceptable and indefensible. There’s no way you can sugar coat it, you can blame the PL all you want, but other clubs have managed and haven’t completely self imploded.

 

Because of the success we’ve had, we had a greater opportunity than any other team of our size to grow and become a force in English football, instead, we’ve lurched from one disaster to another, and are now here….. the fact we’ve spectacularly fell apart in about a five year period should be a major red flag to all fans…. It’s okay people scoffing at us getting relegated, or having similar issues to Sheffield Wednesday, but we’re here aren’t we? We’ve already had the most spectacular decline in English football history, and I’d probably argue world club football. Purely because of where we’ve fallen from, which the sheer financial gain that brings in the context of the modern game, and the short time period it has happened over……  if we’ve managed to regress as much as we have in a decade, than in 12 months we could easily be in Sheff Wednesdays shoes. Top has already lost control of the club, and we’re left with him and his pet Rudkin to continue to day to day operations? It’s a terrifying prospect. 
 

The Leicester city I fell in love with is dead, this current iteration is disgusting, and I genuinely hate them……. 
 

Time for king power to **** off, along with the gold and all blue kits….

 

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Posted

the title of this thread is a request I fully support. Serial season failures. appalling management, selling the club sponsorship ta disreputable organisation in the far east. Move on before we become the next Sheffield Wednesday. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

It’s never easy to step into a role in such circumstances and in addition to being an idiot. Probably knowing you’re an idiot and your parents at times thinking you’re an idiot. 
 

However, this is a 40 year old man. He has seen massive decline of two relatively successful businesses and doubled down on past poor decisions. There is nothing to feel sorry about. The first relegation was a disaster - fine. No changes. The second relegation came about after further disastrous decisions, a previous manager begging you for changes and significant losses. What did he do ? Double down on a poor team, and seen other fairly experienced execs (CEO, GC, Commercial Director) leave. 
 

He’s made his bed, he’s chosen this route. He’s backed the wrong horse - multiple times. He’s done nothing to improve himself. There is nothing to feel sorry for. He is an egotistical moron and a liability. 
 

Hound the ****er out. 

A ****ing men.

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