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Posted (edited)

Sorry if already mentioned but I have just heard the new proposal from the league.

3rd v 4th semi final 

 

Qfinal 5th v 8th and 6th v 7th ( on leg)

the winner obviously meeting in the second semi final! 
it’s odd as the saying is “don’t fix something that’s not broken” but I guess it will be popular with a lot of teams as finish 8th is very achievable https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-15088355/amp/EFL-consider-major-change-Championship-Premier-League.html

Edited by Joe90
Posted
2 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Sorry if already mentioned but I have just heard the new proposal from the league.

3rd v 4th semi final 

 

Qfinal 5th v 8th and 6th v 7th ( on leg)

the winner obviously meeting in the second semi final! 
it’s odd as the saying is “don’t fix something that’s not broken” but I guess it will be popular with a lot of teams as finish 8th is very achievable 

It won't be 3rd vs 4th will it, it'll be the two winners of the eliminator games play 3rd and 4th. It's basically what the national league playoffs are.

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

It won't be 3rd vs 4th will it, it'll be the two winners of the eliminator games play 3rd and 4th. It's basically what the national league playoffs are.

Am I hearing it wrong

 

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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Am I hearing it wrong

 

I think he's worded it a bit strangely, they aren't going to reward the two better performing clubs with missing the eliminators for at least one to lose in the semi.

 

"In the EFL's proposal, the team that finishes fifth in the Championship table would play the eighth-placed team and sixth would meet seventh in one-off ties at the higher-ranked team’s home ground.

But unlike the National League playoffs – which are all one-off games – the winners of the eliminators would proceed to two-legged ties against the teams that finished third and fourth."

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Am I hearing it wrong

 

If it mirrors the National league system then this is how it works for them below (positions will be different as only 1 team gets automatically promoted from the national league) , 3rd won’t play 4th, they will play the winners from the elimination game, 3rd will play the lowest ranked, 4th will play the other winner 

 

 

Promotion to League Two

 

 

1st place (Champions): Automatically promoted.

2nd–7th place: Enter the playoffs to decide the second promotion spot.

 

 

 

 

 

Playoff Format (since 2017–18)

 

 

 

 

Eliminator Round (One-off matches):

4th place vs 7th place

5th place vs 6th place

Played at the higher-ranked team’s ground.

 

Semi-Finals (One-off matches):

2nd place vs lowest-ranked Eliminator winner

3rd place vs highest-ranked Eliminator winner

Again, hosted by the higher-placed team.

 

Final:

The two semi-final winners meet at Wembley 

The winner gets promoted to League Two.

 

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I think he's worded it a bit strangely, they aren't going to reward the two better performing clubs with missing the eliminators for at least one to lose in the semi.

 

"In the EFL's proposal, the team that finishes fifth in the Championship table would play the eighth-placed team and sixth would meet seventh in one-off ties at the higher-ranked team’s home ground.

But unlike the National League playoffs – which are all one-off games – the winners of the eliminators would proceed to two-legged ties against the teams that finished third and fourth."

 

2 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

If it mirrors the National league system then this is how it works for them below (positions will be different as only 1 team gets automatically promoted from the national league) , 3rd won’t play 4th, they will play the winners from the elimination game, 3rd will play the lowest ranked, 4th will play the other winner 

 

 

Promotion to League Two

 

 

1st place (Champions): Automatically promoted.

2nd–7th place: Enter the playoffs to decide the second promotion spot.

 

 

 

 

 

Playoff Format (since 2017–18)

 

 

 

 

Eliminator Round (One-off matches):

4th place vs 7th place

5th place vs 6th place

Played at the higher-ranked team’s ground.

 

Semi-Finals (One-off matches):

2nd place vs lowest-ranked Eliminator winner

3rd place vs highest-ranked Eliminator winner

Again, hosted by the higher-placed team.

 

Final:

The two semi-final winners meet at Wembley 

The winner gets promoted to League Two.

 

 

Yes this would make more sense (my bad) 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

If it mirrors the National league system then this is how it works for them below (positions will be different as only 1 team gets automatically promoted from the national league) , 3rd won’t play 4th, they will play the winners from the elimination game, 3rd will play the lowest ranked, 4th will play the other winner 

 

 

Promotion to League Two

 

 

1st place (Champions): Automatically promoted.

2nd–7th place: Enter the playoffs to decide the second promotion spot.

 

 

 

 

 

Playoff Format (since 2017–18)

 

 

 

 

Eliminator Round (One-off matches):

4th place vs 7th place

5th place vs 6th place

Played at the higher-ranked team’s ground.

 

Semi-Finals (One-off matches):

2nd place vs lowest-ranked Eliminator winner

3rd place vs highest-ranked Eliminator winner

Again, hosted by the higher-placed team.

 

Final:

The two semi-final winners meet at Wembley 

The winner gets promoted to League Two.

 

 

I think you have this wrong, 1st and 2nd get promoted and 3rd-8th go in to the playoff system👍

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Normally hate meddling with competitions that work perfectly well like the world cup or champions league but I would be well up for the this. The high stakes win or bust nature of the championship play offs is one of the best things about English football why enjoy 2 more games and let 2 more sides participate in them.

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Is this further meddling from the PL?!? Any team finishing 8th in the Championship that somehow wins the playoff will be guaranteed relegation the following season thereby adding another level of protection for the annual underperformers. There's nothing wrong with the current system, why change it unnecessarily. 

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So you can have a team that amounts 20 points less than another over a season and then gets promoted. One bad refereeing call ruins a season. More games on players in an already congested schedule. This is why the game is eating itself just generate more TV money. The howls on this board if Leicester finish 3rd and a team in 8th gets promoted over us. Leave the damn game alone.

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Posted (edited)

As long as it isn't a stealthy way to cut promotion to two teams, which it doesn't sound like it is, it can't hurt. Would keep more teams in the mix up to the final day.

 

Questionable merit behind an extra game for 5th-8th, but on the flipside momentum is massive in footy, and it would be quite funny to have a third place team on 90 points bottle the final to an eighth placed also-ran who finished 25 points behind them.

 

Those moaning about the disparity, it's already there! The joy of the playoffs is the potential for an upset, if your mindset is that the third place team shouldn't have to face the ignominy then you might as well bin them off entirely and just have three automatics, which is joyless.

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Posted
1 minute ago, ian__marshall said:

Is this further meddling from the PL?!? Any team finishing 8th in the Championship that somehow wins the playoff will be guaranteed relegation the following season thereby adding another level of protection for the annual underperformers. There's nothing wrong with the current system, why change it unnecessarily. 

I think the prem are against it tbf, because if 8th do win the playoffs it effectively makes the league weaker.

Posted
2 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

As long as it isn't a stealthy way to cut promotion to two teams, which it doesn't sound like it is, it can't hurt. Would keep more teams in the mix up to the final day.

 

Questionable merit behind an extra game for 5th-8th, but on the flipside momentum is massive in footy, and it would be quite funny to have a third place team on 90 points bottle the final to an eighth placed also-ran who finished 25 points behind them.

Don’t tempt fate, that’s got us all over it 😶 

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Not a fan of this. It’s a bit odd that a side that finishes 6th can go up finishing 20 odd points behind but it’s been the case for what, 35 years and the numbers show that the better side most often come through.

 

8th though is much nearer mid table so seems really undeserved. 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Don’t tempt fate, that’s got us all over it 😶 

And yeah it'd be shit on a personal level, but I'm never going to begrudge a Blackpool-type upset. That's why the playoffs are great.

 

Hell, Villa only finished fifth when they went up, and they've never looked back.

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7 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

So you can have a team that amounts 20 points less than another over a season and then gets promoted. One bad refereeing call ruins a season. More games on players in an already congested schedule. This is why the game is eating itself just generate more TV money. The howls on this board if Leicester finish 3rd and a team in 8th gets promoted over us. Leave the damn game alone.

This already applies to the current playoff system. If you extend this logic you’d want no playoffs and only the top 3 going up automatically?

Posted

I think it's unfair on making the teams that finish 3rd and 4th wait another week for these games.

 

IMO the play offs are the single best thing about the EFL and they don't need to be changed.

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One of the main draws of the playoffs is that it keeps the league season more interesting for longer. With 8th securing a playoffs spot you will have the 4th-6th place teams likely in limbo for 1/3 of the season having secured their playoff places unless the league is unusually tight.

 

I think it should be kept more exclusive between the 3-6th place teams.

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Posted
41 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

I think you have this wrong, 1st and 2nd get promoted and 3rd-8th go in to the playoff system👍

Yeah he's using the national league as the example, he does say it's different as only one automatic in those leagues

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